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just one small thing to add to meatpuppet, maby you should sit a bit lower, it looks like you're almost standing. can't give any advice on the solo though, i can't solo for shit myself.
[QUOTE=BassB;28193447]oh u guys and your "fast" drummers [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1ZBpDtvnE8[/media] now that is a drummer by god he's awesome[/QUOTE] Let's make babies and name them all Carter Beauford. That guy is my favourite drummer along with Gavin Harrison. I don't know if these are reposts. If they are, well they're worth showing again. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzFfNk4xGTE[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTUl-AMoJpU[/media] [editline]9th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Unjust;28149288]Anyone know any fun songs to play for advanced players? [/QUOTE] This is a fun song to play, I think. It takes some time to learn, but it's awesome. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX_L3ziFSFw[/media] [editline]9th March 2011[/editline] I don't currently have a drumkit and I haven't played for a year, but I'll try and upload a video of me doing a cover of the Dance of eternity, playing on my table lol. Hold on, it's uploading. There are some timing-flaws here and there, and there's some going-nuts improvisation towards the end. It's fun playing on the table, lol. It's like you have all drums in one finger, and you decide whatever the fuck you want it to be, haha. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EFy41aSnW8[/media]
[QUOTE=BassB;28506936]just one small thing to add to meatpuppet, maby you should sit a bit lower, it looks like you're almost standing. can't give any advice on the solo though, i can't solo for shit myself.[/QUOTE] my instructor tells me height is subjective and on a person to person basis if he likes it its fine
of course height, especially of drums, but have you seen his sitting height, you'd be sitting on the edge of your throne all the time. you can't use your leg muscles to the fullest sitting like that. besides that it looks uncomfortable as fuck.
Posting a new solo soon with my chair down lower and a metronome blasting in my ears. I've already learned many styles of playing, mostly latin and jazz.
[QUOTE=BassB;28514095]of course height, especially of drums, but have you seen his sitting height, you'd be sitting on the edge of your throne all the time. you can't use your leg muscles to the fullest sitting like that. besides that it looks uncomfortable as fuck.[/QUOTE] Actually, the higher the chair supposedly the more control you have. I sit fairly high, to the point where using matched american grip is uncomfortable to play the snare. Which is why my friends wonder why I play french grip on my kit.
that makes no sense, at all. i don't even know what to comment on that, it just doesn't make any sense. your snare height isn't even subjective to your throne height.
[QUOTE=BassB;28516122]that makes no sense, at all. i don't even know what to comment on that, it just doesn't make any sense. your snare height isn't even subjective to your throne height.[/QUOTE] My snare barely goes like 3 feet high, so it plays a huge difference for me.
then you should get a new snare stand, if you can't use german grip properly on your snare your setup isn't right. honestly could you just take advice for once instead of trying to convince us of your faulty technique being right.
[media]http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/darkrei9n/IMG00136-20110306-12582.jpg[/media] [media]http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/darkrei9n/IMG00132-20110306-1254.jpg[/media] [media]http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/darkrei9n/IMG00130-20110306-1251.jpg[/media] If there's something wrong in the setup of my kit feel free to tell me.
well evidently your relative seat high is too high if you can't even use american grip, i'd put the ride some more to the front though either over the 12" or the 14" tom. though personally i'd go for offset toms, and put the ride over the bassdrum, especially when playing a 6 piece like yours. the rule of thumb is usually that the snare has to be level with your thighs or a bit above them, also your the thighs generally should be about a 85 to 70 degree angle to the rest of the body. but i must say, it looks like one fine kit. is that one of the new alpha rock rides?
[QUOTE=BassB;28524364]well evidently your relative seat high is too high if you can't even use american grip, i'd put the ride some more to the front though either over the 12" or the 14" tom. though personally i'd go for offset toms, and put the ride over the bassdrum, especially when playing a 6 piece like yours. the rule of thumb is usually that the snare has to be level with your thighs or a bit above them, also your the thighs generally should be about a 85 to 70 degree angle to the rest of the body. but i must say, it looks like one fine kit. is that one of the new alpha rock rides?[/QUOTE] It's a Paiste Alpha Metal ride.
I have a Paiste Alpha Metal splash and love it. I really want the ride, but I'm in a bind for cash right now.
gonna be taking 6 weeks off from using my legs. i want to spend a shitload of time working on hand technique and timings and speed and what not. plus my legs really need to heal up so i can finally get to double bass
Oh crap. Joe Morello has died! R.I.P
may seem like a dumb question but what speed should i want my singles to be comfortable at? i know its gonna differ based on genres of music i want to play, which is mostly rock metal and what not, but whats a good all around speed?
60 bpm whole notes
that question doesn't really make sense, you need to know them comfortably as fast as you need them. basically you shouldn't stop developing them, learn them faster and faster, but make sure you always have them under complete control.
You need to be able to play.... [img]http://www.robertjschwalb.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/dr-evil.jpg[/img] ONE MILLION BPM!
what about training by playing as opposing to just practicing them. i know nothing beats practice but if i play metallica's damage inc (which i strain to keep up with) 4 times then do straight singles for a few mins on and off that beats just doing the singles right ?
Oh god. I just marched the St. Patrick's Day Parade in D.C. I had to hold my drum for nearly 5 hours straight and I nearly broke my right stick. My left stick I actually bled on. And by the end of it I was surprised I didn't collapse.
[QUOTE=gerbile5;28591248]what about training by playing as opposing to just practicing them. i know nothing beats practice but if i play metallica's damage inc (which i strain to keep up with) 4 times then do straight singles for a few mins on and off that beats just doing the singles right ?[/QUOTE] i know of no better way to learn drums than just playing songs and beats. i never liked drill practice, and my teacher understood that back when i had one, so instead of making me drill bass drum practice, he gave me interesting page long beats that i had to read and play.
i need some hot rods suggesting to me. i tried some out and liked how it sounded not too bothered what they're like (within reason obviously) as long as they're under £15
[QUOTE=gerbile5;28591248]what about training by playing as opposing to just practicing them. i know nothing beats practice but if i play metallica's damage inc (which i strain to keep up with) 4 times then do straight singles for a few mins on and off that beats just doing the singles right ?[/QUOTE] Breaking down singles and isolating singles into the individual hand motions WITH A METRONOME is the best way to develop them. Playing along with songs is great and all, but if you want to develop controlled and consistent singles, metronomes are the way to go. Its boring, but how good do you want to be?
[QUOTE=bltsponge;28610883]Breaking down singles and isolating singles into the individual hand motions WITH A METRONOME is the best way to develop them. Playing along with songs is great and all, but if you want to develop controlled and consistent singles, metronomes are the way to go. Its boring, but how good do you want to be?[/QUOTE] well the way im breaking it up is do play alongs, endurance sessions, and experimentation while on the kit, and then metronome and double strokes while on my pad at home.
[QUOTE=bltsponge;28610883]Breaking down singles and isolating singles into the individual hand motions WITH A METRONOME is the best way to develop them. Playing along with songs is great and all, but if you want to develop controlled and consistent singles, metronomes are the way to go. Its boring, but how good do you want to be?[/QUOTE] I am a metronome.
[QUOTE=gerbile5;28538345]gonna be taking 6 weeks off from using my legs. i want to spend a shitload of time working on hand technique and timings and speed and what not. plus my legs really need to heal up so i can finally get to double bass[/QUOTE] My hand technique is getting better, because I don't have a drumkit, and I use my table for drumming. Do like me, lol. I've never owned a drumkit, I've always practiced on my table, and I can actually play the stuff when I get behind a drumkit. Mostly it's about the timings and techniques. I'm not saying you don't need a drumkit to be better, and I'd definitely learn more by having one, but if you don't have a kit; Improvise! I know there are some timing flaws in this, but it's all fun n games. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EFy41aSnW8[/media]
yeah i just did 5 mins of endurance training for singles on a pillow. i think ill do this from now on fuck the pad. (except for double. pad for doubles)
I'm not a fan of practicing on a pillow. A real drum has rebound, and your practice should be geared towards teaching your muscles how to make the most efficient use of that rebound. Practicing on a pillow might build wrist strength, but it also reinforces bad technique. The hours of practice it'll take to redefine your technique is not worth it. It'll also hurt the quality of sound you're getting from the drum, as you're not making the most efficient use of each stroke.
[QUOTE=bltsponge;28661415]I'm not a fan of practicing on a pillow. A real drum has rebound, and your practice should be geared towards teaching your muscles how to make the most efficient use of that rebound. Practicing on a pillow might build wrist strength, but it also reinforces bad technique. The hours of practice it'll take to redefine your technique is not worth it. It'll also hurt the quality of sound you're getting from the drum, as you're not making the most efficient use of each stroke.[/QUOTE] If you play on drum line it is incredibly useful. It builds up wrist muscles which allows you to put more velocity into your stroke which means you're getting better sound quality, especially for snares.
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