I'm going to go see someone soon about selling my mosin. Wish me luck guys.
Good luck! (I wish Mosin's and SKS's were plenty about around here, they seem like fun guns)
[QUOTE=Campin Carl;27420024]Good luck! (I wish Mosin's and SKS's were plenty about around here, they seem like fun guns)[/QUOTE]
They are.
What? I've only heard of a single one of those close-by, and that was the deactivated Mosin. An SKS though, isn't legal if what I remember is right.
I think he means they are fun guns.
Which they are. I'd never sell my Mosin or Soviet SKS. Good gun, best rifle.
[QUOTE=Campin Carl;27420534]What? I've only heard of a single one of those close-by, and that was the deactivated Mosin. An SKS though, isn't legal if what I remember is right.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I meant fun guns.
Sorry.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;27418268]Thorneycroft carbine, developed about 1901. Patented n shit but never really used.
[img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/CVwbk.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE]
[img]http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1115/scan0001xtb.jpg[/img]
Poor thing never gets any respect around here.
I'm wondering if Facepunch - you guys in particular - are able to assist me as I choose my first firearm to purchase. I live in Canada so there are several restrictions placed upon me as to which guns I am able to purchase but I have acquired for myself a short list of items which I find favourable. I've done some preliminary research and just wish for some small and important bits of information from you guys. Thanks in advance.
I've been thinking of getting a Ruger Mk III or a 22/45 but am unsure as to the difference in their individual and comparative differences. I have also been thinking of buying a rifle from the Mosin Nagant family of rifles as well as one from the Lee Enfield family but, again, am unsure what their differences are in respect to their own family of rifles. Finally, I have an open request to anyone on the subject on which gun will be beneficial to a beginning firearms enthusiast as well as weapons that would not be very expensive (again, I live in Canada so some weapons - fully automatic in particular (unless an automatic rifle is manufactured in semi-automatic mode) - will be unavailable to me as well as a certain degree of price inflation.
Well I got rid of the mosin for 200 rounds of Herter's .223 64 grain HP ammo and 40 rounds of brass-cased FMJ. About 70 bucks worth. For the gun, some snap caps, stripper clips and a box of Winchester SP it's not a great deal especially at California prices. I essentially gave a 75$ gun away for 50$ of ammo. But at least I'm rid of it and there's a calgunner who will be enjoying it in the future.
[editline]14th January 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=HellSoldier;27422075]I'm wondering if Facepunch - you guys in particular - are able to assist me as I choose my first firearm to purchase. I live in Canada so there are several restrictions placed upon me as to which guns I am able to purchase but I have acquired for myself a short list of items which I find favourable. I've done some preliminary research and just wish for some small and important bits of information from you guys. Thanks in advance.
I've been thinking of getting a Ruger Mk III or a 22/45 but am unsure as to the difference in their individual and comparative differences. I have also been thinking of buying a rifle from the Mosin Nagant family of rifles as well as one from the Lee Enfield family but, again, am unsure what their differences are in respect to their own family of rifles. Finally, I have an open request to anyone on the subject on which gun will be beneficial to a beginning firearms enthusiast as well as weapons that would not be very expensive (again, I live in Canada so some weapons - fully automatic in particular (unless an automatic rifle is manufactured in semi-automatic mode) - will be unavailable to me as well as a certain degree of price inflation.[/QUOTE]
As a Canadian you have access to a bunch of guns that all of us Americans with our import restrictions can only drool at. Namely guns from Russia and China. You can pick up a Norinco SKS for 200$ new, we can maybe find one at that price used in terrible shape. You can pick up a Norinco M14 for 400$, we have to buy Springfield ones for 1,500$. You can buy an SVT-40 for 300$, we might be able to find one for 1,000$ if we're lucky. It goes on and on.
But realistically you should start on a .22LR rifle, Chinese ones are your best bet. The ammo is cheap, there is very little recoil. It's the perfect gun for beginners. Then once you've mastered that thing get a Norinco M-14 or a Russian SVT-40 and spend your time making us Americans jealous.
[QUOTE=Bean-O;27422115]As a Canadian you have access to a bunch of guns that all of us Americans with our import restrictions can only drool at. Namely guns from Russia and China. You can pick up a Norinco SKS for 200$ new, we can maybe find one at that price used in terrible shape. You can pick up a Norinco M14 for 400$, we have to buy Springfield ones for 1,500$. You can buy an SVT-40 for 300$, we might be able to find one for 1,000$ if we're lucky. It goes on and on.
But realistically you should start on a .22LR rifle, Chinese ones are your best bet. The ammo is cheap, there is very little recoil. It's the perfect gun for beginners. Then once you've mastered that thing get a Norinco M-14 or a Russian SVT-40 and spend your time making us Americans jealous.[/QUOTE]
I had come up with a reasonably sized post but I accidentally went backwards because of my Ventrilo bind. Nonetheless, those reasons would explain why I saw an SVT-40 at my local range for $350. Aside from that, I have used firearms at the range multiple times and am reasonably comfortable using them so I believe a .22LR would be a miniscule step forward from where I already am. If you were to even subscribe to that, what would you recommend?
As well, ammunition costs in Canada seem to be quite high (though I haven't researched the prices elsewhere). E.g, 1x .223/$2
[QUOTE=HellSoldier;27422356]
As well, ammunition costs in Canada seem to be quite high (though I haven't researched the prices elsewhere). E.g, 1x .223/$2[/QUOTE]
Lol wat?
You need to look harder bro.
.223 is not $2.
They are about .45 cents a round
[QUOTE=Aman V;27422625]Lol wat?
You need to look harder bro.
.223 is not $2.[/QUOTE]
Around the area it is.
That area being Toronto and several Canadian firearms suppliers' websites.
At least 500x .22LR / $23
[QUOTE=HellSoldier;27422629]Around the area it is.
That area being Toronto and several Canadian firearms suppliers' websites.[/QUOTE]
I live within 40 minutes of Toronto.
.223 is cheap (well cheap as ammo is concerned)
and you always buy ammo by the case not by boxes, it's alot cheaper.
1000 .223 costs $499
Do you have your PAL or RPAL yet?
-snip for wrong math-
[QUOTE=HellSoldier;27422702]1000 / $499 = ~$2/.223
I'm going to get it after my exams next week.[/QUOTE]
are you gonna fail your exams? cause you're bad at math
[QUOTE=Aman V;27422773]are you gonna fail your exams? cause you're bad at math[/QUOTE]
im fucking retarded i did the math backwards
i blame lack of sleep :downs:
Either way, it'd be good to know how much ammunition costs in the United States.
[quote=hellsoldier;27422702]1000 / $499 = ~$2/.223
i'm going to get it after my exams next week.[/quote]
ME-
ME-
MEGA DERP!
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Crappiest piece of shit ever made, but still popular.
[IMG]http://i52.tinypic.com/288w4nb.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=zombiefreak;20810947][img_thumb]http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee150/woad_yurt/Mak676.jpg[/img_thumb][img_thumb]http://imperialarms.home.att.net/Images/Lugers/1920LongBarrel.jpg[/img_thumb]
Yo.[/QUOTE]
makarov and revolver? revolver ocelot, much?
[QUOTE=Lufttygger306;27427297]Crappiest piece of shit ever made, but still popular.
[img_thumb]http://i52.tinypic.com/288w4nb.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE]
Not really considering that it's been out of production for a long time now.
It has a lot of notoriety as a gang weapon in the US but gangs don't use them often anymore because sure they made a ton of them at one point but ever since they ceased production most of them ended up in the hands of collectors, got confiscated by police and destroyed or got used in a crime and destroyed. Some of the remaining ones turn up in gang arrests periodically but it has still fallen out in favor of guns that are still being made and hence are more widely available (since criminals tend to use whatever they can find). These things were also a bit bulky for concealment, limiting their popularity with criminals.
[QUOTE=HellSoldier;27422075]I'm wondering if Facepunch - you guys in particular - are able to assist me as I choose my first firearm to purchase. I live in Canada so there are several restrictions placed upon me as to which guns I am able to purchase but I have acquired for myself a short list of items which I find favourable. I've done some preliminary research and just wish for some small and important bits of information from you guys. Thanks in advance.
I've been thinking of getting a Ruger Mk III or a 22/45 but am unsure as to the difference in their individual and comparative differences. I have also been thinking of buying a rifle from the Mosin Nagant family of rifles as well as one from the Lee Enfield family but, again, am unsure what their differences are in respect to their own family of rifles. Finally, I have an open request to anyone on the subject on which gun will be beneficial to a beginning firearms enthusiast as well as weapons that would not be very expensive (again, I live in Canada so some weapons - fully automatic in particular (unless an automatic rifle is manufactured in semi-automatic mode) - will be unavailable to me as well as a certain degree of price inflation.[/QUOTE]
Well Bean-o pretty much summed up your questions regarding rifles, when it comes to the .22 handgun, I'd personally stay away from the Ruger's and go for a Browning Buckmark. They're a bit more pricey but they're leaps and bounds superior in quality than the Ruger's.
Ah the Tec-9, a favorite of 80's gangsters and A-team antagonists.
also Kurt Russel.
[QUOTE=Gubbinz96;27430165]Well Bean-o pretty much summed up your questions regarding rifles, when it comes to the .22 handgun, I'd personally stay away from the Ruger's and go for a Browning Buckmark. They're a bit more pricey but they're leaps and bounds superior in quality than the Ruger's.[/QUOTE]
Are there any particular reasons as to why it's better than the Ruger?
Just found the list of prohibited firearms in Canada [URL]http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/rp-eng.htm[/URL].
List contains some things from the AK-47 to the G3 to the Benelli M1 Super to the MP5. I figure Americans can possess at least some (if not all) of those.
Hey guys! It's been a while, but I'm almost done with the weapon list for the FPS my studio has been working on. My team of modelers kind of shit their pants when they saw this list:
[url]https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AnstoK82lCW3dGJHQ01jQWh6WmVZYzNfRHk0dk9xM3c&hl=en&authkey=CNbSst8G[/url]
Anyway, I'm looking to add one more Vietnam War-to-Near-Future firearm to each of the eight main types (except for handguns, where I'm looking for two more). I'd love for some insight from people who know a lot more about firearms than I do (all I do is fire a .357 and a 1911 at the range whenever I get the time to) :)
I can't say much more but expect to see the pre-alpha in April :]
[QUOTE=HellSoldier;27432263]Are there any particular reasons as to why it's better than the Ruger?[/QUOTE]
Well in my experience in handling the two (Ruger 22/45, there isn't that much of a difference between it's Mark III counterpart), out of the box, the Browning was far more comfortable to hold in hand, had a better magazine release (the Ruger you have to yank the magazine out even after you press the release, the Browning magazine literally just pings straight out when you press the release). And ergonomically/operation wise, it's just a far smoother operating pistol.
Just hold the two guns, go through the drills like how easy is the slide release to operate, magazine differences, etc etc and see what you conclude. I picked the Buckmark because I concluded it was the superior pistol out of the two.
Though yeah Browning's in general are much more expensive. But you pay for an excellent quality firearm. Out of the box I fired roughly 300 rounds though it without flaw. I would not expect quite the same results with a Ruger.
A wee bit off subject, the quality of the 22 ammunition will factor quite a bit into how well your 22 pistol works. Federal 22 ammo is very good general bulk ammo that I only experienced 3 minor problems out of a 375 round pack (I would say that was mostly my fault like not loading the magazine properly).
CCI is the [i]absolute[/i] best rimfire ammo money can buy(it's a wee bit pricey, like $12 for 100 rounds last time I checked).
Remington is Okay, not the best but okay (I've had quite a few duds in their big bulk packs but only one jam out of 525 rounds, I haven't tried out some of the other ammo they have out there, apparently it kinda goes downhill).
And finally Winchester. I haven't shot alot of these BUT If you find this particular ammo by them 'Xpert HV High Velocity' [i]DO. NOT. BUY. IT.[/i] It's the best example of [highlight]GARBAGE[/highlight] ammo out there. If you want to practice clearing and fixing all sorts of weird funky jams and malfunctions ammo related, then maybe you may want a box or two, because you're going to be doing that with this ammo.
[QUOTE=Gubbinz96;27433422]Well in my experience in handling the two (Ruger 22/45, there isn't that much of a difference between it's Mark III counterpart), out of the box, the Browning was far more comfortable to hold in hand, had a better magazine release (the Ruger you have to yank the magazine out even after you press the release, the Browning magazine literally just pings straight out when you press the release). And ergonomically/operation wise, it's just a far smoother operating pistol.
Just hold the two guns, go through the drills like how easy is the slide release to operate, magazine differences, etc etc and see what you conclude. I picked the Buckmark because I concluded it was the superior pistol out of the two.
Though yeah Browning's in general are much more expensive. But you pay for an excellent quality firearm. Out of the box I fired roughly 300 rounds though it without flaw. I would not expect quite the same results with a Ruger.
A wee bit off subject, the quality of the 22 ammunition will factor quite a bit into how well your 22 pistol works. Federal 22 ammo is very good general bulk ammo that I only experienced 3 minor problems out of a 375 round pack (for 22 ammo that's good).
CCI is the [I]absolute[/I] best rimfire ammo money can buy(it's a wee bit pricey, like $12 for 100 rounds last time I checked).
Remington is Okay, not the best but okay (I've had quite a few duds in their big bulk packs but only one jam out of 525 rounds, I haven't tried out some of the other ammo they have out there, apparently it kinda goes downhill).
And finally Winchester. I haven't shot alot of these BUT If you find this particular ammo by them 'Xpert HV High Velocity' [I]DO. NOT. BUY. IT.[/I] It's the best example of [highlight]GARBAGE[/highlight] ammo out there. If you want to practice clearing and fixing all sorts of weird funky jams and malfunctions ammo related, then maybe you may want a box or two, because you're going to be doing that with this ammo.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, I've experience the issue of having to pull the magazine out of the Ruger and it would be nice to avoid the issue altogether. I may just spot for the Buckmark instead. I've also already looked around for .22LR ammunition and I've found two boxes which I think are the ones you've mentioned (they're on a website but my range sells the same ones).
[URL="http://www.canadaammo.com/product.php?productid=343&cat=1&page=1"]Federal[/URL]
[URL="http://www.canadaammo.com/product.php?productid=342&cat=1&page=1"]Winchester[/URL]
Anyone know of any good firearm paint? there are plenty out there, just curious if anyone has any first hand experience
So is anyone going to Shot Show this year?
[QUOTE=Bigboy855;27438042]So is anyone going to Shot Show this year?[/QUOTE]
Not everyone lives in USA
[QUOTE=Mane;27433043]Hey guys! It's been a while, but I'm almost done with the weapon list for the FPS my studio has been working on. My team of modelers kind of shit their pants when they saw this list:
[url]https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AnstoK82lCW3dGJHQ01jQWh6WmVZYzNfRHk0dk9xM3c&hl=en&authkey=CNbSst8G[/url]
Anyway, I'm looking to add one more Vietnam War-to-Near-Future firearm to each of the eight main types (except for handguns, where I'm looking for two more). I'd love for some insight from people who know a lot more about firearms than I do (all I do is fire a .357 and a 1911 at the range whenever I get the time to) :)
I can't say much more but expect to see the pre-alpha in April :][/QUOTE]
For pistols, I'd recommend a Sig P228 and perhaps a revolver?
[img]http://www.americanspecialops.com/images/photos/navy-seals/seal-diver-pistol.jpg[/img]
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