• Firearms V. Super Redneck Edition
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[QUOTE=Pat.Lithium;27541123]What the fuck balls, didn't realise the laws were that bad.[/QUOTE] Blame Bryant. Before Port Arthur and the inevitable kneejerk, you could buy VN-surplus L1A1 SLRs on a cat B.
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[QUOTE=pike1337;27540225]Can someone give me the lowdown on Australian recreational gun laws real quick? My family owns a massive property full of rabbits and whatnot, and I want to stew some of the buggers :v: if one of the factors is age, I'm 16.[/QUOTE] You are better off using a big rock, guns are banned in Australia.
[QUOTE=Siminov;27546598]You are better off using a big rock, guns are banned in Australia.[/QUOTE] No they're not. Heavily restricted and banned are not the same thing.
Still shit however. Anything more than a break-action 12 gauge is too much paperwork to worry about unless you've got farmland. Pain in the ass government. Not looking forward to all the forms I'm going to be filling out on my 18th birthday :v:
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;27508091]If he hasn't replied yet, I'll think you'll find Mabus is one of the smaller European armies, not Australia.[/QUOTE] Yeah, sorry bout that I have been away from internet for a while, but yes your correct I serve in the Irish Defense forces, although we have a bit in common when it comes to equipment with the Australians and New Zealand's armies. We all have a fine taste in small arms.
[QUOTE=S3CURiTR0N;27562843]Still shit however. Anything more than a break-action 12 gauge is too much paperwork to worry about unless you've got farmland. Pain in the ass government. Not looking forward to all the forms I'm going to be filling out on my 18th birthday :v:[/QUOTE] Homework for you: find out if those .410 conversions of the SMLE require a cat C or if they fall into some loophole as a B or something. They're not pump-action or semi, so they might, but I dunno what cat bolt-action shotguns would be so I guess it could still be C.
I'm 14 and i'm gonna get a M-9 Beretta handgun. Of course it will be in my family's safe until I am old enough to legally own a gun :smith: Also my 21 year old brother wants a Colt Python Revolver.
Damn I'd love to have an L96 Super Magnum just as a novelty, but I bet its expensive as shit and probably against the law unless I move to america.
[QUOTE=Numidium;27565969]Damn I'd love to have an L96 Super Magnum just as a novelty, but I bet its expensive as shit and probably against the law unless I move to america.[/QUOTE] a) There is no such thing as an 'L96 Super Magnum', the L96 is 7.62x51 NATO only. You're thinking of the Arctic Warfare Super Magnum, known in British service as the L115, and chambered in .338 Lapua. b) I can't imagine it would be any more or less legal than any other bolt-action centrefire rifle, just [I]really fuckoff expensive[/I]. Like, new car expensive. c) Despite that, hell fucking yes. I want one so badly.
[QUOTE=PvtVain;27565868]I'm 14 and i'm gonna get a M-9 Beretta handgun. Of course it will be in my family's safe until I am old enough to legally own a gun :smith: Also my 21 year old brother wants a Colt Python Revolver.[/QUOTE] It's a Beretta 92FS. M9 is the US military designation. Note that it is M9, not M-9. The upgraded variant being the M9A1.
Guys. I'm fucking stupid. A few weeks ago, I had to ride my motorcycle in the worst rain ever. I was open carrying my s&w model 39, which I rarely carry because I usually just have my little .38spl in my car's glove box. On my motorcycle though, the 39 is my only option as I'm not old enough to conceal in my state. Well, when I got home soaking wet and super cold, I just tossed the gun in it's holster to the side, forgetting about it. I looked at it last night, and now the blue finish on the slide has quite a few rust spots. There is no other rust apart from the outside of the slide, so I know the gun will shoot like it always has, but the bluing on it was so beautiful. I feel like I've let down a friend that has always had my back. This is depressing. :crying:
[QUOTE=Ltp0wer;27566390]Guys. I'm fucking stupid. A few weeks ago, I had to ride my motorcycle in the worst rain ever. I was open carrying my s&w model 39, which I rarely carry because I usually just have my little .38spl in my car's glove box. On my motorcycle though, the 39 is my only option as I'm not old enough to conceal in my state. Well, when I got home soaking wet and super cold, I just tossed the gun in it's holster to the side, forgetting about it. I looked at it last night, and now the blue finish on the slide has quite a few rust spots. There is no other rust apart from the outside of the slide, so I know the gun will shoot like it always has, but the bluing on it was so beautiful. I feel like I've let down a friend that has always had my back. This is depressing. :crying:[/QUOTE] Spray it down with some CLP and scrub it down. If that doesn't work you'll have to work on removing the rust and touch it up with some cold bluing. It's actually very easy, unless it's like some ungodly amazing bluing job. (To apply cold bluing, just degrease the area with some kind of weak solevent, I use CLP bore blaster, then dip a q-tip in the cold bluing bottle and wipe it on. Let it dry, wipe the area with a rag, and keep applying the cold bluing until it looks good. Follow up by oiling it down and wiping it down. Should be as good as new, and this will only cost you about $5 to do.) For future reference, if there's any possibility you're going to be near water with a gun, spray the damn thing down with WD40. That's the best thing you can possibly do to protect against moisture damage. I could write up a rather lengthly history of oils and their uses but it's rather boring just remember some things. WD40=Water Displacement/Rust preventer. IT IS NOT A LUBRICANT, DO NOT USE IT AS ONE! It will also leave a sticky film behind making it a bad bad oil to use inside of a firearm. CLP=General purpose do all oil; See Breakfree CLP 3 in 1=Shitty version of CLP Gun oils=Don't actually prevent rust at all, they're intended to stick to mechanical parts and reduce friction Just keep all this in mind when you're cleaning your gun. Personally, I degrease the gun, then spray the outside down with WD40 and use general gun oils on all internal parts. For the bore I use a solevent, followed by CLP or a thin gun oil.
Take some 0000 (HAS TO BE 0000) steel wool and rub down the areas which are rusted. Put enough force in to take the rust off, but try not to take the remaining bluing off. You can cold blue it if you want but it won't protect the metal nearly as well as the original finish. Also useful for cleaning: ATF (auto tranny fluid) - it reeks to fuck and back and doesn't do nice things to your skin, but it's a hell of a lot cheaper than CLP and does roughly the same job.
[QUOTE=not rossmum;27568757]Take some 0000 (HAS TO BE 0000) steel wool and rub down the areas which are rusted. Put enough force in to take the rust off, but try not to take the remaining bluing off. You can cold blue it if you want but it won't protect the metal nearly as well as the original finish. Also useful for cleaning: ATF (auto tranny fluid) - it reeks to fuck and back and doesn't do nice things to your skin, but it's a hell of a lot cheaper than CLP and does roughly the same job.[/QUOTE] Bluing doesn't protect steel, the quality of the steel and its treatment beforehand does. Your method is no cheaper than mine, CLP is $2 a bottle. Cold bluing is $5 a bottle. You tell me, how is that a hell of a lot cheaper?
[QUOTE=not rossmum;27565644]Homework for you: find out if those .410 conversions of the SMLE require a cat C or if they fall into some loophole as a B or something. They're not pump-action or semi, so they might, but I dunno what cat bolt-action shotguns would be so I guess it could still be C.[/QUOTE] I think bolt-action shotguns are cat a or b depending on if they're centrefire or rimfire. The shotgun comment was more a jab at how stupidly restrictive this countries gun laws are versus other countries (mind you now you've put the idea of getting a .410 bolt action in my head). The fact that you have to bend over backwards to get something as mundane as a 10/22 is ridiculous.
Because guns are used in every crime committed in those countries. LOL. Restricting guns just makes all the easier for criminals to rob people. Besides, most times a gun is not used. Usually it's a knife because it's easier to hide and very common.
[QUOTE=not rossmum;27565644]Homework for you: find out if those .410 conversions of the SMLE require a cat C or if they fall into some loophole as a B or something. They're not pump-action or semi, so they might, but I dunno what cat bolt-action shotguns would be so I guess it could still be C.[/QUOTE] Bolt action shotgun fall under CatA
[QUOTE=DrMortician;27572414]Bluing doesn't protect steel, the quality of the steel and its treatment beforehand does. Your method is no cheaper than mine, CLP is $2 a bottle. Cold bluing is $5 a bottle. You tell me, how is that a hell of a lot cheaper?[/QUOTE] ATF comes in far larger quantities at far lest cost than purposely-made gun cleaning products, which is what I was referring to. You seemed to bring cold blue up as a suggestion so I was simply saying that it won't do much to protect it (and may not even match the original finish). As for blue not protecting steel? :laffo: You're kidding right? That's its entire purpose. Bluing is a form of controlled corrosion which forms an inert layer over the steel in the same way aluminium oxidises and forms a coating of aluminium oxide which prevents further oxidation (i.e. corrosion). If it didn't, then no military weapon would ever have been blued, would they? Why do you think they finish guns at all? To make them look pretty? Maybe as a side effect of protecting them from corrosion, sure...
I about came when I opened this thread.
Just some info for OP, you have gas operation listed, and then a pic of a G36K. That is actually piston operated. Also, the receivers pic is airsoft. Here, have some real ones. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/KmrkB.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/qFGAp.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Ridge;27578611]Just some info for OP, you have gas operation listed, and then a pic of a G36K. That is actually piston operated.[/QUOTE] :doh: Piston operation is a [I]type[/I] of gas operation.
[QUOTE=not rossmum;27577341]ATF comes in far larger quantities at far lest cost than purposely-made gun cleaning products, which is what I was referring to. You seemed to bring cold blue up as a suggestion so I was simply saying that it won't do much to protect it (and may not even match the original finish). As for blue not protecting steel? :laffo: You're kidding right? That's its entire purpose. Bluing is a form of controlled corrosion which forms an inert layer over the steel in the same way aluminium oxidises and forms a coating of aluminium oxide which prevents further oxidation (i.e. corrosion). If it didn't, then no military weapon would ever have been blued, would they? Why do you think they finish guns at all? To make them look pretty? Maybe as a side effect of protecting them from corrosion, sure...[/QUOTE] Most people in my class blues their guns mostly because it's pretty( rustbluing that is, due to our proper bluing gear not being properly set up yet)
Yeah, but it also slows corrosion to a degree. Not a huge amount, but enough to justify its use. Saying blue has no effect on the rate at which a weapon corrodes is like saying that corrosive salts from surplus ammo doesn't either (I hope to all fuck that any of you guys with milsurp weapons clean them every time you shoot, because that stuff is nasty).
A weird gun - the Frommer Stop [IMG]http://i56.tinypic.com/14njwiq.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=rossmum;27581457]Yeah, but it also slows corrosion to a degree. Not a huge amount, but enough to justify its use. Saying blue has no effect on the rate at which a weapon corrodes is like saying that corrosive salts from surplus ammo doesn't either (I hope to all fuck that any of you guys with milsurp weapons clean them every time you shoot, because that stuff is nasty).[/QUOTE] It's true, bluing does protect against rust, but it's definitely a resistant finish, not impervious. A smooth finish will actually protect better, rust needs something to grab onto, such as scratches and the like. The smoother the surface is, the more trouble rust has trying to form. None of my muskets are blued, except for the springs which I left heat colored from tempering. But they are polished to a degree, mainly wire polished. Speaking of nasty, if you want to see something nasty, clean a black powder gun after shooting because... well holy shit... I'm hoping to take the beast out tomorrow and shoot some lead out of it for the first time so I'll snap a picture of that little detail as well. That means I'll have video of the thing firing too. [QUOTE=Lufttygger306;27581476]A weird gun - the Frommer Stop[/QUOTE] I actually have one of those.
[QUOTE=Numidium;27565969]Damn I'd love to have an L96 Super Magnum just as a novelty, but I bet its expensive as shit and probably against the law unless I move to america.[/QUOTE] Got a spare ~$25,000?
[QUOTE=RR_Raptor65;27582674]I actually have one of those.[/QUOTE] Is it a good gun?
I haven't fired it, can't be bothered to find some hot .32 ACP.
[url]http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/hu/frommer-stop-e.html[/url] The description tells me it is good
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