Some new photos! Of my gun who's apparently only purpose, according to some, is to shoot Congressmen...
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[QUOTE=Teal Moose;27618305]So I want to get the facts straight on this and don't know where else to turn. There was a discussion on this somewhere back in the thread I thought but I don't know. So guys, the Desert Eagle. Is it completely impractical for everything? If I had the money, I would get one in .44 magnum. A semi-auto hand cannon in .44 just sounds fuckin' awesome and since I already have a .44 revolver, I've got the experience and the ammo for it and I've shown I don't favor practicality in all my gun purchases. .44 is so much cheaper than .50 AE and offers just about the same ballistics with less recoil anyway. But I've also heard the Desert Eagle is unreliable and very inaccurate. Is this true or not? If you bought a Deagle chambered for .50AE can't you just switch barrels and mags and shoot .44?[/QUOTE]
Desert Eagles are pretty much the most worthless thing on the face of the planet unless you like wasting money, in which case you may as well roll some notes up and smoke them instead of buying one of those. You can't use it in home defence (unless you're fucking retarded and have a deathwish), you can't use if for carry (same applies), and about the only uses it does have (range toy and showing off to easily-impressed friends whose only 'knowledge' of weapons is CoD) are completely negated by the cost of owning and firing one. You could get into reloading I guess, or you could just buy a handgun in a calibre that is actually practical like a CZ-75 or Hi Power or whatever because honestly they're far more fun to shoot on account of [I]not feeling like you just stuck your wrists in front of a speeding semitrailer[/I] every time you pull the trigger.
Yes, the .50AE/.44 barrel/mag swap is true from what I can tell, although that serves no real purpose other than to sucker people into thinking they're getting any kind of value (they're not).
Stick with your revolver for an "oh fuck my wrists" gun and buy something sensible for actual practical applications. The Desert Eagle's only purpose in existing is as a status symbol, and it can't even do that right. It's more of a 'MY OWNER IS A FUCKING IDIOT AND EASILY PARTED WITH LARGE SUMS OF MONEY' symbol. If you [I]absolutely must[/I] shoot one of the things, just go to a range and hire one or make friends with a total moron.
sorry this was a horrible post im a faggot
[QUOTE=Medicman;27625576]hi guys i want um a um gun so i can shoot my friend cuz hes a jerk sometimes!! do u think i should get 1??? nd do u die if they get shot!!!? or do u respawn like call ofd uty pls dont say mean thigns 2 me im still learning thx[/QUOTE]Rate dumb, report and move on.
[QUOTE=rossmum;27625447]Desert Eagles are pretty much the most worthless thing on the face of the planet unless you like wasting money, in which case you may as well roll some notes up and smoke them instead of buying one of those. You can't use it in home defence (unless you're fucking retarded and have a deathwish), you can't use if for carry (same applies), and about the only uses it does have (range toy and showing off to easily-impressed friends whose only 'knowledge' of weapons is CoD) are completely negated by the cost of owning and firing one. You could get into reloading I guess, or you could just buy a handgun in a calibre that is actually practical like a CZ-75 or Hi Power or whatever because honestly they're far more fun to shoot on account of [I]not feeling like you just stuck your wrists in front of a speeding semitrailer[/I] every time you pull the trigger.
Yes, the .50AE/.44 barrel/mag swap is true from what I can tell, although that serves no real purpose other than to sucker people into thinking they're getting any kind of value (they're not).
Stick with your revolver for an "oh fuck my wrists" gun and buy something sensible for actual practical applications. The Desert Eagle's only purpose in existing is as a status symbol, and it can't even do that right. It's more of a 'MY OWNER IS A FUCKING IDIOT AND EASILY PARTED WITH LARGE SUMS OF MONEY' symbol. If you [I]absolutely must[/I] shoot one of the things, just go to a range and hire one or make friends with a total moron.[/QUOTE]
Or you could just like collecting and shooting guns.
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Yeah there's always that but collecting Desert Eagles is about as sensible as collecting Hi Points. Except more expensive.
Fuck those things forever.
Desert Eagles are very accurate, reliable, fun to shoot and have an extremely interesting action on top of looking dead sexy. Not to mention they are a bit of a rarity.
Where as hi points are ugly (to most people), have a simple and unimaginative action, are not very accurate and aren't very fun to shoot, plus they're fucking everywhere.
I fail to see how they're in any way similar.
[editline]24th January 2011[/editline]
I hate the DEAGLE BRAND DEAGLE as much as the next guy, but you're being very unfair here.
Call me jaded. I don't like things that are overhyped and I generally don't like things that aren't practical.
I guess as a range toy or whatever it's fine, but it's still pricey as all fuck because most of the kinds of people who own them seem to think that a huge price premium is acceptable.
[QUOTE=rossmum;27625447]Desert Eagles are pretty much the most worthless thing on the face of the planet unless you like wasting money, in which case you may as well roll some notes up and smoke them instead of buying one of those. You can't use it in home defence (unless you're fucking retarded and have a deathwish), you can't use if for carry (same applies), and about the only uses it does have (range toy and showing off to easily-impressed friends whose only 'knowledge' of weapons is CoD) are completely negated by the cost of owning and firing one. You could get into reloading I guess, or you could just buy a handgun in a calibre that is actually practical like a CZ-75 or Hi Power or whatever because honestly they're far more fun to shoot on account of [I]not feeling like you just stuck your wrists in front of a speeding semitrailer[/I] every time you pull the trigger.
Yes, the .50AE/.44 barrel/mag swap is true from what I can tell, although that serves no real purpose other than to sucker people into thinking they're getting any kind of value (they're not).
Stick with your revolver for an "oh fuck my wrists" gun and buy something sensible for actual practical applications. The Desert Eagle's only purpose in existing is as a status symbol, and it can't even do that right. It's more of a 'MY OWNER IS A FUCKING IDIOT AND EASILY PARTED WITH LARGE SUMS OF MONEY' symbol. If you [I]absolutely must[/I] shoot one of the things, just go to a range and hire one or make friends with a total moron.[/QUOTE]
I think I know a little something about desert eagles.
They're not worthless, they're a very nice handgun for someone wanting to push out to 100+ yards, or use for hunting. The whole "reliability" issue is due to limp wristing.
Look up hickok45's review of the gun, he never had a problem with it. He never had a problem with the gen4 glocks either. Now is the lightbulb in your head starting to go off?
I want one because 44 magnum is the most common and easily obtained ammunition in my area and has been for the past 10 years. It's really not that expensive here either, about the same price as 10mm. Split between a desert eagle or a smith 329PD, but I'm not really a masochist and the desert eagle would suit my collection better.
They look best in brushed chrome:
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That smith is sexy though... 44 magnum and all of 11 ounces... ouch.
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The desert eagle is a lot more comfortable in my hand though, oddly. I have long and very thin fingers, revolver grips are often too thin to be comfortable for me, at least in larger calibers.
Just wish they would have done a desert eagle in either 45LC or 454 casull, so I didn't have to buy more reloading dies and stock different brass. I have a crate full of 454 brass, and my SRH has already let me know I'm going to have problems when I'm around retirement age now. It's a damn nice gun but also entirely pointless unless you live in alaska or something:
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Did a trigger job on it a few days ago. First time doing a double action revolver. About like working on a watch.
Can sure dump the cylinder fast now, if you're really up to the challenge, its DA pull isn't much heavier that a sig's initial DA pull.
[QUOTE=rossmum;27625447]Desert Eagles are pretty much the most worthless thing on the face of the planet unless you like wasting money, in which case you may as well roll some notes up and smoke them instead of buying one of those. You can't use it in home defence (unless you're fucking retarded and have a deathwish), you can't use if for carry (same applies), and about the only uses it does have (range toy and showing off to easily-impressed friends whose only 'knowledge' of weapons is CoD) are completely negated by the cost of owning and firing one. You could get into reloading I guess, or you could just buy a handgun in a calibre that is actually practical like a CZ-75 or Hi Power or whatever because honestly they're far more fun to shoot on account of [I]not feeling like you just stuck your wrists in front of a speeding semitrailer[/I] every time you pull the trigger.
Yes, the .50AE/.44 barrel/mag swap is true from what I can tell, although that serves no real purpose other than to sucker people into thinking they're getting any kind of value (they're not).
Stick with your revolver for an "oh fuck my wrists" gun and buy something sensible for actual practical applications. The Desert Eagle's only purpose in existing is as a status symbol, and it can't even do that right. It's more of a 'MY OWNER IS A FUCKING IDIOT AND EASILY PARTED WITH LARGE SUMS OF MONEY' symbol. If you [I]absolutely must[/I] shoot one of the things, just go to a range and hire one or make friends with a total moron.[/QUOTE]
I have shot the .357 version and I like it a lot, it's accurate, has stopping power and the recoil is very manageable, the only problem I saw with it was the weight (if you're big, bulky and made of beef stew and tomato sauce this isn't a problem, if your not buy a glock.) and if you use non jacketed bullets it will jam ever second shot. It's quicker to reload then a Revolver and why can't you carry one at your side?!?! Yeah I won't buy one but it's not a bad gun.
If I had the money I would definitely get a Desert Eagle, they're really nice pistols, and you have to love a pistol that has more in common with a rifle than anything else.
[QUOTE=$$>MUFFIN<$$;27627628]I have shot the .357 version and I like it a lot, it's accurate, has stopping power and the recoil is very manageable, the only problem I saw with it was the weight (if you're big, bulky and made of beef stew and tomato sauce this isn't a problem, if your not buy a glock.) and if you use non jacketed bullets it will jam ever second shot. It's quicker to reload then a Revolver and why can't you carry one at your side?!?! Yeah I won't buy one but it's not a bad gun.[/QUOTE]
lmao please tell me you are not suggesting a desert eagle is even close to viable as a carry weapon or sidearm
granted i did exaggerate pretty severely before but that part was absoluely not exaggeration at all. to carry a desert eagle you would have to be fucking dense.
[QUOTE=$$>MUFFIN<$$;27627628]I have shot the .357 version and I like it a lot, it's accurate, has stopping power and the recoil is very manageable, the only problem I saw with it was the weight (if you're big, bulky and made of beef stew and tomato sauce this isn't a problem, if your not buy a glock.) and if you use non jacketed bullets it will jam ever second shot. It's quicker to reload then a Revolver and why can't you carry one at your side?!?! Yeah I won't buy one but it's not a bad gun.[/QUOTE]
Desert eagles are polygonal rifled, you shouldn't be running lead in them to begin with. You'll eventually create a barrel obstruction with all the lead fouling.
Avoid soft points, SWCs or anything that you'd normally fire in a revolver. Stick to FMJ or STANDARD hollow points, not semi-jacketed or any of that stuff. That's the other thing most people don't realize about the desert eagles.
I'll go into a little more detail.
Do you have a lot of disposable income? Yes? Are you afraid of being eaten by bears or do you insist on shooting something so obnoxious that people two lanes over at the range cringe every time you fire? Yes? Do you have some kind of weird thing for giant and laughably impractical pistol designs? Yes? You're allowed to buy a Desert Eagle unironically.
Do you intend to concealed carry (we won't cover open as open carry is fucking retarded in public)? Do you intend to get a pistol for home defense? Are you a PMC or whatever (if so fuck you, stop making life harder for real soldiers) looking for a sidearm? Yes? If you buy a Desert Eagle you're a fucking twat.
The power, accuracy, range, and LOUD NOISES that add up to a decent (but really fucking overpriced, seriously, why not just buy a couple of nice guns in a smaller calibre) range toy do not magically make it a better weapon than anything else. This isn't CoD where little slider bars dictate the 'best gun'.
The Desert Eagle is huge, bulky, and in .50AE it recoils ridiculously (not so much for the other calibres). It is extremely picky about what you feed it. While its rounds are fucking huge, its mag is fucking tiny. Does this sound like a good weapon to trust your life/the lives of others upon? No? Good, because it isn't. Carry something sensible.
Basically, although I hate them and I consider them a waste of money better spent on guns with more practical purposes (especially ones that are good for more than just range trips [discount this if you're afraid of bears]), there are a few legitimate reasons to own one (but I reserve the right to call you an idiot for not buying an objectively far superior weapon). If you own one for any reason that isn't one of those you're a terrible person and you probably play too many horrible excuses for games.
(this isn't @ you mug, I know you have enough sense to know they're not practical for defensive purposes)
When it comes to laughably impractical pistol designs, that's actually one of the reasons I want one :3:
[QUOTE=DrMortician;27629318]Desert eagles are polygonal rifled, you shouldn't be running lead in them to begin with. You'll eventually create a barrel obstruction with all the lead fouling.[/QUOTE]
I knew this, they guys at the club didn't, i had to clean out his barrel and gas system because he didn't even know how to take it apart. granted he just blew $2000 he had lying around and brought it straight to the club without reading up on them so he had no idea how it worked... but he has plenty of money lying around and now know how to operate it properly.
Had a Civilian Steyr Aug at school today.
First off, the thing is really small
Second, the trigger pull is ridiculously gruesome.
Third, Plastic fantastic :barf:
It will be a cold day in hell before someone that isn't Kel-Tec makes a bullpup trigger that doesn't suck it seems
[QUOTE=rossmum;27629352]
The Desert Eagle is huge, bulky, and in .50AE it recoils ridiculously (not so much for the other calibres). It is extremely picky about what you feed it.[/QUOTE]
50AE is pretty tame, like a 480 ruger.
It's just these limp wristed teenagers posting youtube videos who make it look so bad. You want to experience real recoil, run light bullets in a 454 casull at full house loads, or fire an airweight smith in 44 magnum.
50AE is very controllable in comparison. Especially in that big and heavy of a gun. Only a 300gr bullet at around 1300fps... 454 casull drops out 360gr bullets around 1600fps, and I don't find it all that bad.
[QUOTE=Campin Carl;27630185]Had a Civilian Steyr Aug at school today.
First off, the thing is really small
Second, the trigger pull is ridiculously gruesome.
Third, Plastic fantastic :barf:[/QUOTE]
I don't think the plastic argument about the Steyr is valid. All the parts that matter are steel. It's like complaining about the plastic furniture on any modern rifle, it just so happens that the furniture covers most of the rifle.
[QUOTE=DrMortician;27630361]50AE is pretty tame, like a 480 ruger.
It's just these limp wristed teenagers posting youtube videos who make it look so bad. You want to experience real recoil, run light bullets in a 454 casull at full house loads, or fire an airweight smith in 44 magnum.
50AE is very controllable in comparison. Especially in that big and heavy of a gun. Only a 300gr bullet at around 1300fps... 454 casull drops out 360gr bullets around 1600fps, and I don't find it all that bad.[/QUOTE]
"Controllable" and "viable in a self-defence situation" are two very different things, my friend.
Keep in mind that I look at things from an almost purely functional standpoint and my main love as far as weapons go is milsurp, so that does colour my opinion of big fuckoff handguns somewhat (and the kinds of morons that are usually attracted to them don't help either), but at the end of the day I couldn't justify the expense even if I was into that kind of thing. If it wasn't for the fucking ridiculous cult following that's been built up around the DE by movies and games, they might actually be fucking affordable. Instead, they have their own version of the 'Hitler tax' us milsurpers get slammed with, and driveling idiots at the range will tell you how you're not a true [I]operator[/I] unless you carry one. I'm probably a hypocrite because all sorts of crazies collect milsurp, but I would hate to be associated with those kinds of people. At least within the milsurp community they seem less prevalent.
Whatever floats your boat, I just think that as-is they're a waste of good money and really only useful at a range (somewhat) or out in the deepest darkest marked on the map with "HERE BE BEARS".
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[editline]25th January 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=SBD;27630538]I don't think the plastic argument about the Steyr is valid. All the parts that matter are steel. It's like complaining about the plastic furniture on any modern rifle, it just so happens that the furniture covers most of the rifle.[/QUOTE]
Nope.
The entire fire control group is plastic. There are still issues with heat warping the assembly so badly the weapon fails to function properly and the hammer wears down eventually where it contacts the firing pin. Hammer, sear, disconnector, it's all plastic. About the only major piece of metal in there I can think of is the drop safety (which doesn't work if you drop it arse-first by the way).
In fact, the only parts of the Steyr that are metal are the barrel and gas assembly, the receiver, the BCG and obviously springs and pins. Oh, and the body locking catch and rods that transfer between the trigger itself and the sear.
The rest is all plastic.
[QUOTE=DrMortician;27630361]50AE is pretty tame, like a 480 ruger.
It's just these limp wristed teenagers posting youtube videos who make it look so bad. You want to experience real recoil, run light bullets in a 454 casull at full house loads, or fire an airweight smith in 44 magnum.
50AE is very controllable in comparison. Especially in that big and heavy of a gun. Only a 300gr bullet at around 1300fps... 454 casull drops out 360gr bullets around 1600fps, and I don't find it all that bad.[/QUOTE]
I simply do not understand the draw of such large handgun loads.
At the range they are a novelty, but generally not pleasant to fire over time. I also find it rather rude to be honest. Simply having one in a lane near me makes my experience unpleasant. I do not wish to feel my organs vibrate every time you shoot your fucking gun.
In self defense they are utterly useless. The weapons are heavy, by necessity, which makes them unwieldy in extended arm, and the recoil, while controllable at the range, is too large for followup shots. A bullet, however large or fast, must strike something vital to be effective. The weight, recoil, and power of the cartridge all combine to not only make it less effective as a self-defense weapon, but also dangerous to those nearby. While a large bullet doesn't stop a determined opponent immediately, it does cause wounds which will likely kill someone shortly. Even a non-vital hit on an innocent will likely cause them permanent damage or death.
And then there are the people who hunt with them. I find it to be irresponsible to use a handgun for anything other than snake hunting. Using a high caliber handgun over a normal caliber rifle increases the chance of a miss, and thus increases the suffering of the animal without cause.
[QUOTE=Campin Carl;27630185]Had a Civilian Steyr Aug at school today.
First off, the thing is really small
Second, the trigger pull is ridiculously gruesome.
Third, Plastic fantastic :barf:[/QUOTE]
It's called polymer, duh
I was curious about getting a glock as a next gun, once I turn 21.
But what, in your opinion, is the better glock, the 17,19, 21 or 22.
are suppressors illegal? Maybe not for hunting purposes, but I'd imagine them being illegal?
do you gun enthusiasts also like suppressors on your firearms or what?
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;27631901]are suppressors illegal? Maybe not for hunting purposes, but I'd imagine them being illegal?
do you gun enthusiasts also like suppressors on your firearms or what?[/QUOTE]From what I've read it varies per state, and you have to get a couple signatures.
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;27631901]are suppressors illegal? Maybe not for hunting purposes, but I'd imagine them being illegal?
do you gun enthusiasts also like suppressors on your firearms or what?[/QUOTE]
In the USA I have no idea, but in Norway they are mostly unrestricted (for hunting guns you don't even need to fill out any forms for them :v: )
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;27631901]are suppressors illegal? Maybe not for hunting purposes, but I'd imagine them being illegal?
do you gun enthusiasts also like suppressors on your firearms or what?[/QUOTE]
You need a class 3, 200 dollar tax stamp, then you can get one.
Otherwise they are illegal.
I see.
This just in!
Desert Eagles were designed to be a pistol for big game hunters.
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[QUOTE=Campin Carl;27632050]In the USA I have no idea, but in Norway they are mostly unrestricted (for hunting guns you don't even need to fill out any forms for them :v: )[/QUOTE]
Suppressors fall under a level 3 license. So basically, you have to be a really good civilian with a spotless record and live in the middle of now-where.
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