• Firearms V. Super Redneck Edition
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You probably shouldn't get something that powerful, if you've never owned a gun. How many times have you shot a gun before?
I've shot a .22 and that's it. I own lots of airsoft guns, but even the gas ones have recoil less then a .22.
Then you shouldn't get an SKS or a Mosin for your first gun. Reason being is you could develop a flinch, which is where your body will flinch right before shooting a gun. This happens when you shoot guns with a lot of power, and human bodies aren't meant to hear loud noises and experience strong recoil. Developing a flinch is a mental thing, and getting it could happen without you knowing. Getting rid of it is tricky, and it's better to just avoid the chance of getting a flinch. It's better for you to start off with buying a .22, becoming comfortable with shooting that, and then moving on to more powerful guns.
That makes sense. Thanks for the input.
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Does developing a flinch only apply for shooting a gun? I've been around alot of loud noises relating to airsoft, like airsoft grenades (which make your ears ring), firing mortars, flares, gas blowback guns, etc. If I'm used to sudden loud noises I wouldn't be ok still?
Well what happens is your body experiences a loud noise/a gun's recoil, which is unpleasant for our body. Our bodies sub-consciously connect that feeling of unpleasantness connect with shooting a gun. So what ends up happening is, when you pull the trigger, your body will flinch away from the gun to avoid the unpleasant feeling. I'm not sure about it happening with other things, though
Alright, thanks again. I'll be sure to post whatever I get once I do get it.
[QUOTE=mastermaul;28022149]Pretty much. [img_thumb]http://filesmelt.com/dl/obrezshop.png[/img_thumb] Anyone's who worked with anything that involves staring at individual pixels up close gets a knack for noticing tiny things.[/QUOTE] you won't even have to zoom in that far. look at the grip, it's shade is pointing northwest. the rest of the gun has the shade southwest. [editline]13th February 2011[/editline] sorry missed this entire page i'm kinda late to the party :/
Real guns have a different effect from Airsoft and the like too. I can stand up and fake shooting at a target with an empty rifle all day and be still as stone, then I can put a bullet in the gun and fire it for real and if I'm not paying attention I'll flinch. This is because I fired a 1903 Springfield as my first rifle when I was 12. I blame my father for letting me fire it so much that day (Course I still thoroughly enjoyed it). I've mostly gotten rid of it but it still comes back if I'm being lazy but that's part of the shooting discipline. Though if you REALLY want to flinch, try shooting a 25mm Wall Gun loaded with 240 grains of powder, firing a 1500 grain ball. Shoves you back about 2 feet and the fireball is like throwing gasoline on an open flame.
I just cleaned the housing in the back of my Glock 35's slide and man put 10 ear buds in there before the first gray one came out, must have been ages since that was last cleaned.
Flinching isn't my problem, despite my first shot not being .22 (hell I shoot mainly .303 and F1 ball 5.56, although neither is particularly recoil-prone). I get so excited I'm shooting I kind of forget to breathe properly, time my shots, not snatch the trigger, and so on. When I actually calm myself down I shoot really well, but I'm so horribly inconsistent it's not funny :smith:
I like making my own recoil to add to the guns recoil... probably not a good thing.
[QUOTE=Stupideye;28023182]I've never owned a gun before, but once I'm 18 (just over a month away) I plan on taking the required tests and whatnot to be allowed to aquire one. Since I'm a Russian weeabo I'd like to get something Russian like a SKS or a Mosin Nagant, plus they're fairly inexpensive but I'm open to other guns as well. What would you guys recommend for a first gun?[/QUOTE] Go for a Ruger 10/22. Nice, simple first rifle with crazy cheap ammo
[QUOTE=BassB;28024361]you won't even have to zoom in that far. look at the grip, it's shade is pointing northwest. the rest of the gun has the shade southwest. [editline]13th February 2011[/editline] sorry missed this entire page i'm kinda late to the party :/[/QUOTE] Yeah, this is what tipped me off too. The grip is reflecting the flash of a camera, whereas the rest of the gun isn't [editline]13th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=$$>MUFFIN<$$;28024934]I like making my own recoil to add to the guns recoil... probably not a good thing.[/QUOTE] Not only is it not a good thing, but it's stupid
[QUOTE=Glitch360;28023502]Well what happens is your body experiences a loud noise/a gun's recoil, which is unpleasant for our body. Our bodies sub-consciously connect that feeling of unpleasantness connect with shooting a gun. So what ends up happening is, when you pull the trigger, your body will flinch away from the gun to avoid the unpleasant feeling. I'm not sure about it happening with other things, though[/QUOTE] I would add on top of what you said, some good ear protection. Aside from protecting my hearing it helps me to focus when shooting at indoor ranges and outdoor ranges with others. Bad ear protection = Flinching and ringing ears for hours.
Shot my GSG 1911 for the first time yesterday. Was awesome!! Not a hiccup or anything.
[QUOTE=Gubbinz96;28028031]I would add on top of what you said, some good ear protection. Aside from protecting my hearing it helps me to focus when shooting at indoor ranges and outdoor ranges with others. Bad ear protection = Flinching and ringing ears for hours.[/QUOTE]Yeah, pretty much anything above a .22 needs ear protection
Even .22s need it. I was kinda shocked out how loud my GSG was when firing it yesterday...
Really? I've never used ear protection for .22s, unless I was going to be shooting for long durations of time. It wouldn't hurt to have ear protection with you just in case, though
[QUOTE=Glitch360;28032349]Really? I've never used ear protection for .22s, unless I was going to be shooting for long durations of time. It wouldn't hurt to have ear protection with you just in case, though[/QUOTE] Not using ear is probably some of the dumbest shit you can do, because it's so simple and basic.
[QUOTE=Glitch360;28032349]Really? I've never used ear protection for .22s, unless I was going to be shooting for long durations of time. It wouldn't hurt to have ear protection with you just in case, though[/QUOTE] Well if you're shooting outdoors with a .22, ear protection wouldn't really be so essential (because its outdoors and the sound doesn't reverberate around like it would indoors) but seriously I've got it down to a habit just to wear it whenever shooting regardless of the range I am at.
Man I love my Mosin but I can't aim it for shit. Now that I think about it it could be the low range I was aiming at (25 yards)...I can shoot my friend's AR-15 pretty well though, next time I go I need to try it at 50 and 100 yards.
[QUOTE=Gubbinz96;28032778]Well if you're shooting outdoors with a .22, ear protection wouldn't really be so essential (because its outdoors and the sound doesn't reverberate around like it would indoors) but seriously I've got it down to a habit just to wear it whenever shooting regardless of the range I am at.[/QUOTE]Yeah when you're shooting inside you should wear ear protection no matter what gun you're shooting. But outside shooting, I don't really wear ear protection when shooting .22s
[QUOTE=Glitch360;28032349]Really? I've never used ear protection for .22s, unless I was going to be shooting for long durations of time. It wouldn't hurt to have ear protection with you just in case, though[/QUOTE] I've heard that .22s can be the worst for your ears since it is so high pitched or something like that.
[QUOTE=Glitch360;28032349]Really? I've never used ear protection for .22s, unless I was going to be shooting for long durations of time. It wouldn't hurt to have ear protection with you just in case, though[/QUOTE] People get serious ear damage with that way of thinking. I've heard .22 short might be safe, I know hickok45 shot his .22 short for awhile without ear protection in one of the vids and put some on when he went to .22LR.
[QUOTE=Bigboy855;28035153]I've heard that .22s can be the worst for your ears since it is so high pitched or something like that.[/QUOTE] Doubt it very much.
At our range we always use ear protection when shooting .22lr, but we're indoors so the sound echoes a lot more.
At our range, we have baffles that curve inward toward the targets, which means that the sound projects outward toward us. Even if it's a .22, it still makes my ears ring.
I shoot outdoors in a large, shallow basin so .22LR sounds barely (if at all) louder than a party popper. Yeah, I probably should wear earpro regardless, but when I have louder noises going off next to me pretty much daily I'm more worried about losing my hearing through other things. I've had several rounds of 5.56, .22-250 and .303 go off right next to me while I was still adjusting and/or earpro was loose. 5.56 is really loud, .22-250 is not something I want to experience without earpro ever again, and .303 actually wasn't too bad... probably because it wasn't as high pitched. Either way, having unmuffled gunfire going on that close to your ears really isn't pleasant and it will do damage eventually, I really don't recommend it. I've never had tinnitus or obvious hearing loss from it, but just because you can't hear the damage it doesn't mean it's not there. [editline]14th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=rnate;28032910]Man I love my Mosin but I can't aim it for shit. Now that I think about it it could be the low range I was aiming at (25 yards)...I can shoot my friend's AR-15 pretty well though, next time I go I need to try it at 50 and 100 yards.[/QUOTE] :what: 25 yards is a pistol range duder. You should be shooting to 100 [I]at the very least[/I] with rifles over .22LR, especially the Mosin. It's probably zeroed at about 300. Hell, my No.4 shoots high at 200, I have to aim off really low at 100.
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