• Firearms V. Super Redneck Edition
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Found some non-corrosive 7.62x54r today, I am happy now.
Maybe people want to practice their trigger pull, or drills, but .45 is just a hair bit too expensive for that.... I'd rather drop $300 on a .22 conversion, when the other option is $600-800 for a heavy ass steel stock for an already heavy gun like an M1A...
[QUOTE=Kais;24280393]I don't understand why would would ever put an M1911 in .22. Honestly, it blows my mind what some people do to their guns. But there's people out there who would hate me for putting an EBR kit on an M1A, so i guess I have to let it slide.[/QUOTE] Look up the prices for .45 and then compare them to 22lr. It's a big difference, and you can get a lot more practice in with 22lr.
My dad took me to an indoor range recently, I fired a .22 pistol (can't remember the name), a .357 Magnum (mostly using .38 Special, only used one actual .357 round), and an M1911 .45 ACP (had trouble hitting the target with it). The .22 was a nice little gun, I got a decent grouping out of it, but I wouldn't use it in a firefight. Might use it for rabbit hunting though. The .357 Magnum, very nice gun, I got a good grouping from it, and the .38 Special isn't exactly something you want to get hit by from my understanding. The .357 round, I could tell just by firing it that it would take out anyone it hit even with a limb shot. Wouldn't want to use it in a firefight though, it has a lot of kick, and the ejector didn't seem to like it. With the M1911, I have to say I was disappointed. No fault of the guns though, I wasn't using the sights correctly. They're the type that have three white dots painted on them. I was lining the target up with the top of the sights while they were ranged in for the dots. Most of my shots missed the target [B]at minimum range[/B]. It felt nice to shoot though. it had a low trigger pull, and the recoil wasn't too bad. I just need to get the hang of the sights. I'm just getting into shooting though, I'm hoping to fire off my dad's M1903 Springfield at an outdoor range in a few weeks. My dad is awesome.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;24281924] The .22 was a nice little gun, I got a decent grouping out of it, but I wouldn't use it in a firefight. Might use it for rabbit hunting though. [/QUOTE] I would use .22 for that too, if it weren't for the Norwegian laws. "Caliber .22 can be used up to rabbit's size, but not rabbits"
[img]http://operatorchan.org/k/thumb/k216280_brassblacks.jpg[/img] In case you're OPERATING OPERATIONALLY on OPERATIONS and the search lights might reflect off the ejecting brass from your silenced H&K mk23 as you take out a sentry. You're pretty much fucked when that exclamation mark appears over their heads.
[QUOTE=Siminov;24277948]I don't understand to pay money for a conversion kit for the colt, to make the gun worse.[/QUOTE] Because I want a .22LR automatic handgun and Rugers (which would be best) are fucking expensive? Even though I realllly should buy a 5.56/7.62 rifle.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;24285502][img]http://operatorchan.org/k/thumb/k216280_brassblacks.jpg[/img] In case you're OPERATING OPERATIONALLY on OPERATIONS and the search lights might reflect off the ejecting brass from your silenced H&K mk23 as you take out a sentry. You're pretty much fucked when that exclamation mark appears over their heads.[/QUOTE] maybe it's me, but i wouldn't be using a mk23
[QUOTE=Kais;24280393]I don't understand why would would ever put an M1911 in .22. Honestly, it blows my mind what some people do to their guns. But there's people out there who would hate me for putting an EBR kit on an M1A, so i guess I have to let it slide.[/QUOTE] It's not like when you put the upper receiver on the gun is completely changed forever. And yeah, the EBR is stupid.
[QUOTE=mastermaul;24287209] And yeah, the EBR is stupid.[/QUOTE] seconded that motion. [IMG]http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh55/111CC111/IMG_0709.jpg[/IMG] A modest collection minus my 1897 and colt m1911. For an irish guy in a country were all guns are hard to get a license for i'm doing alright. Military background helps a ton when getting a license for guns here.
I'm surprised to see someone in Europe with a non-bastardized AK.
[QUOTE=Mabus;24288568]seconded that motion. A modest collection minus my 1897 and colt m1911. For an irish guy in a country were all guns are hard to get a license for i'm doing alright. Military background helps a ton when getting a license for guns here.[/QUOTE] What are irish gun laws like anyway?
[QUOTE=zombiefreak;24296545]What are irish gun laws like anyway?[/QUOTE] He owns a scary fully-automatic Kill-ishnakov assault machine gun of death and baby murder so probably pretty decent compared to the rest of europe.
[QUOTE=Ridge;24281252]Maybe people want to practice their trigger pull, or drills, but .45 is just a hair bit too expensive for that.... I'd rather drop $300 on a .22 conversion, when the other option is $600-800 for a heavy ass steel stock for an already heavy gun like an M1A...[/QUOTE] Why are you trying to compare an upper with an entire stock replacement. I replaced my M1As stock for a number of reasons but none of them completely change the gun or its notable attributes and definitely not it's caliber. SAGE EBR stocks are made from a milled solid piece of aircraft-grade aluminum, and offer a negligible increase in weight on the rifle, less than half a pound overall. The additional weight has a beneficial impact on perceived recoil, which is also reduced by the improved muzzle break I have mounted and the in-line stock which transfers recoil into the shoulder better than a classic style rifle stock. I also very much enjoy the adjustable stock, which allows for a more comfortable experience as well as being easy to adjust for eye relief on a mounted optic. An adjustable cheek rest also allows for me to adjust my cheek weld to better view my sight picture, or for a better sight through an optic. The standard 1913 Picitanny rail system allows mounting of an impressive array of accessories, I've personally opted to mount a LaRue Tactical SPR-E LT-139 with a Redfield Revolution 4-12x40mm scope on top of the rails, which would not have been as easy with the standard furniture on the M1A, without either some modification or a sacrifice on my part on accuracy as well as having to deal with finding a good quality mount which may or may not shift during firing. My M1A might weigh more than another persons M1A now but I did it because I wanted to and that's the short truth. There's always a rhyme and reason to my madness There's no point to doing a pistol drill with an M1911 normally chambered in.45 while using a .22 upper, everything is different from the sights to the trigger pull to the amount of recoil. You simply just practice for little gain in ability with the real thing. I understand .45 is expensive, I wouldn't recommend it as a range gun because it gets kinda pricey but you fail to bring up a valid point about why the .22 upper is better than another .22LR handgun. [QUOTE=mastermaul;24287209]It's not like when you put the upper receiver on the gun is completely changed forever. And yeah, the EBR is stupid.[/QUOTE] You think I don't know that changing the upper receiver doesn't change the weapon forever? I'm merely stating that the idea of a .22 M1911 is odd, especially since the new upper for it is the same price, and sometimes more than a simple Ruger .22 MKIII [QUOTE=mastermaul;24287103]Because I want a .22LR automatic handgun and Rugers (which would be best) are fucking expensive?[/QUOTE] Where are you looking? A quick cursory glance at gunbroker, brought up 6 Ruger MKIIIs all less than the .22 upper for the M1911, and sometimes even NIB. There were also several for $9 more than you're posted price for the .22 upper and quite a few that exceeded your price range. Reading up on the .22 uppers brings up a couple issues that sometimes crop up depending on the manufacturer of the M1911 and the upper. Some of those issues involve really heavy trigger pull for any gun, sometimes up to 10lbs or the need to mill the upper to properly fit the frame. Neither of which are insurmountable just can lead to you adding more cost to the price of the upper to fix these issues. Basically I understand you want something for your M1911 to make it a cost effective range gun, but it is my opinion that for a range gun in .22LR you should try something along the lines of a Ruger .22. In the end you can really just think I'm a raving lunatic and dismiss everything I say, I'm just saying given the same options what I would do. [QUOTE=Armotekma;24287163]maybe it's me, but i wouldn't be using a mk23[/QUOTE] But the Mk.23 is tacticool, it's what all the leet Black Ops guys use. (insert sarcasm here) I mean the Mk.23 isn't a bad handgun, its just big. Really big, I prefer H&Ks USP over it for that very reason and I'm sure y'all prefer other handguns as well.
I already said fuck the upper, there's a dedicated .22LR 1911 for way less that's much better at doing what it does. And all the Rugers i'm seeing are $400+
[QUOTE=zombiefreak;24296545]What are irish gun laws like anyway?[/QUOTE] very strict, like the UK only we are allowed .22 pistols. Assault rifles and weapons that look military are only available via a restricted fire arms license. [url]http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/Firearms_and_Ammunition_FAQ[/url] in detail.
Second day of gunsmith school and my teacher have already promised me that I will be able to shoot an aG-3 (Norwegian produced H&K G-3) as I haven't shot one before. :neckbeard: I'm also gonna get my "new" Krag shipped to me or bring it next time I'm visiting home so I can work on it while at school.
well, fuck, apparently i need the alexander arms lower for it, already have a lrb arms lower
[QUOTE=Mabus;24302023]very strict, like the UK only we are allowed .22 pistols. Assault rifles and weapons that look military are only available via a restricted fire arms license. [URL]http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/Firearms_and_Ammunition_FAQ[/URL] in detail.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE][B]8. What about CS gas spray, pepper spray and stun guns? [/B] These are all totally prohibited in this country. Importation or possession of any of these items is illegal. [/QUOTE] What the shit?
Anyone here buy scopes? Yeah, dumb question.
Correction on my German Kar98. I forgot. It's not 43, it's actually 41. My Yugo M48A. [img]http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/461/dscf0001q.jpg[/img] Yugo SKS. [img]http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/47/dscf0017n.jpg[/img] DPMS AR15 and Romanian WASR10 that I have had for years and years. [img]http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/3126/akm4l.jpg[/img] Glock 23 with my Kar98k again. [img]http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/4463/p1050122.jpg[/img] Posted before, but posting again. STG-58. [img]http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/7205/p1050696.jpg[/img] This is the only picture I have of my USP, though. I'll have to take a better, more gun oriented one. [img]http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/9187/kitv.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;24314621]Anyone here buy scopes? Yeah, dumb question.[/QUOTE] What types of shooting and at what ranges do you plan on using it for?
[QUOTE=CAPSMAN!;24314312]What the shit?[/QUOTE] Yeah we have a serious gang problem at the moment and they would buy out them weapons like motherfuckers, although in fairness it's only pepper spray and tasers and shit. Funny thing is they have a shit load of illegal guns as well. Moyross in Limerick is basically a no go area with guards shooting anyone who tries to get in or out, they call it the island.
[QUOTE=Campin Carl;24311538] I'm also gonna get my "new" Krag shipped to me or bring it next time I'm visiting home so I can work on it while at school.[/QUOTE] I talked to dad and found out that it would be better if took the Remington Nylon 66 we have at home. It smaller so it's easier to send by mail, and it's somewhat broken so I can fix it at school for our "student business" so we can earn some money and go to IWA (I think) wich is the largest civilian weapon expo in Europe according to my teacher.
[IMG]http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae296/Boobenmyre/103.jpg?t=1282716077[/IMG] What do you guys think?
What the fuck did you do to your nagant? [editline]12:35AM[/editline] Seeing the 10/22 done up like that makes me a bit mad but I have the feeling it's fun to shoot in reality.
[QUOTE=mastermaul;24332812]What the fuck did you do to your nagant? [editline]12:35AM[/editline] Seeing the 10/22 done up like that makes me a bit mad but I have the feeling it's fun to shoot in reality.[/QUOTE] My 10/22 is a blast to shoot, and I put a synthetic ATI stock on my Mosin. I personally like it.
[QUOTE=Boobenmyre;24332466] What do you guys think?[/QUOTE] I think I saw that on /k/. :crossarms:
[QUOTE=Sharp;24332844]I think I saw that on /k/. :crossarms:[/QUOTE] Yeah, I frequent there.
[QUOTE=Ridge;24323408]What types of shooting and at what ranges do you plan on using it for?[/QUOTE] hmm, less than 1 km? More of a short range scope.
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