I don't consider my 870 to be fit for HD. I've had too many shells stick in it. My Glock and CZ have been perfect, as well as my AR.
I'll be getting a Citadel 1911 (Armscor/RIA) in a few days.
[QUOTE=JoshuaC;25141363]I don't consider my 870 to be fit for HD. I've had too many shells stick in it. [/QUOTE]
I've had similar experiences with my Dad's 870. But I think that's because a shit load of dust caked the thing and had gotten in the action and gummed some things up in there, I cleaned it out throughly and it seemed to do the job.
I prefer my Mossberg 500 over it, ain't had no sticky problems with it and the shell ejection on my particular one is simply awesome sauce.
Going to a gun show this weekend, what should i look for?
[QUOTE=zombiefreak;25163658]Gun show this weekend, what should I look for?[/QUOTE]
A C-96, then buy one and ship it to me.
[QUOTE=zombiefreak;25163658]Gun show this weekend, what should I look for?[/QUOTE]
Beef jerky, beanie babies and maybe some knife sharpeners/metal polishers...oh, and dont forget the nazi memoribilia...
[QUOTE=JoshuaC;25141363]I don't consider my 870 to be fit for HD. I've had too many shells stick in it. My Glock and CZ have been perfect, as well as my AR.
I'll be getting a Citadel 1911 (Armscor/RIA) in a few days.[/QUOTE]
Take the barrel out and lap the chamber with a dremel tool and a wool pad equal to the chamber size. Just make sure you don't remove any metal, you just want to smooth it out. If you remove any metal, it'll promote casings to expand more and get stuck worse.
Did that with my 1911 because my 460 loads were too hot and causing the casings to stick once in awhile. Fixed the issue.
[QUOTE=Ridge;25168322]Beef jerky, beanie babies and maybe some knife sharpeners/metal polishers...[B]oh, and dont forget the nazi memoribilia..[/B].[/QUOTE]
Oh god it's everywhere.
[img]http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Uniformen/Helme/M18-1.JPG[/img]
Who cares it looks awesome.
[QUOTE=mastermaul;25168998][IMG]http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Uniformen/Helme/M18-1.JPG[/IMG]
Who cares it looks awesome.[/QUOTE]
Except they clutter up everything when I'm trying to look for a decently priced 1911 or something.
[QUOTE=zombiefreak;25169074]Except they clutter up everything when I'm trying to look for a decently priced 1911 or something.[/QUOTE]
Is there any way to get an old surplus 1911 for a decent price?
[QUOTE=MegaChalupa;25169137]Is there any way to get an old surplus 1911 for a decent price?[/QUOTE]
Buy it off of old widows.
[QUOTE=Ridge;25168322]Beef jerky, beanie babies and maybe some knife sharpeners/metal polishers...oh, and dont forget the nazi memoribilia...[/QUOTE]
:cawg:
Though to be honest I haven't ever seen beanie babies. Usually it's beef jerky, candy, and cheap airsoft guns.
Around here it's coins and artwork.
There's barely any Nazi memorabilia.
But nine-tenths of the stuff is guns.
I don't mind guns, I just mind them when used against anything living.
[QUOTE=mastermaul;25169444]Around here it's coins and artwork.
There's barely any Nazi memorabilia.
But nine-tenths of the stuff is guns.[/QUOTE]
Its like, 45% of the stuff in the show is an actual firearm.
It makes me sad :frown:. Oh well, I'm going further south this time and out of the city so it might be better.
[QUOTE=DrMortician;25132054]They're safer in the chamber than in the magazine, honestly.
There's less risk of a shell discharging on its own in the chamber than in the magazine. I do some major work on guns as a hobby and have a very complete understanding of how most guns work.
Anything with a passive firing pin block is 100% safe to leave with one in the chamber. Safety is pretty simple too, don't pull the trigger, that's a lot more effective than putting faith in a lever that usually only blocks a piece of steel by moving with a few thousandths of an inch.
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No. You do not have an intimate understanding of how firearms function. If you did, you wouldn't keep a round chambered in all of your firearms.
You want to keep one ready to go in the nightstand? That is fine.
Loaded magazines inside the firearm? Also fine. The rounds aren't just magically going to go off inside the mag.
But the chamber? On glocks in particular. Good god, what is wrong with you?
[QUOTE=Spetzaz;25169474]I don't mind guns, I just mind them when used against anything living.[/QUOTE]
What if that said living thing is willing to/trying to take your life?
[QUOTE=GunFox;25170129]No. You do not have an intimate understanding of how firearms function. If you did, you wouldn't keep a round chambered in all of your firearms.
You want to keep one ready to go in the nightstand? That is fine.
Loaded magazines inside the firearm? Also fine. The rounds aren't just magically going to go off inside the mag.
But the chamber? On glocks in particular. Good god, what is wrong with you?[/QUOTE]
I agree, even if there was some catastrophic faliure without a round in the chamber, nothing would shoot.
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;25170355]I agree, even if there was some catastrophic faliure without a round in the chamber, nothing would shoot.[/QUOTE]
This. Keeping rounds in the magazine is no more dangerous then keeping them in the in the box. I think always keeping a round chambered it unnecessary unless you intend on keeping the gun holstered or in some way attended.
[QUOTE=GunFox;25170129]No. You do not have an intimate understanding of how firearms function. If you did, you wouldn't keep a round chambered in all of your firearms.
You want to keep one ready to go in the nightstand? That is fine.
Loaded magazines inside the firearm? Also fine. The rounds aren't just magically going to go off inside the mag.
But the chamber? [b]On glocks in particular[/b]. Good god, what is wrong with you?[/QUOTE]
Well before this long rant, I'll point out a little piece of what you said that discredits everything else you have to say gun related.(Bolded)
I can assure you, I know far more about the internal workings of guns than you do. If you know so much more, how about you explain why in 6 years of having 1 in the tube on every gun I have, why I haven't had an accident yet, or a discharge?
Glock's passive safety works fine, it's actually better than a kimbers! The glock's firing pin block actually has to be moved a fair bit, on a kimber it only has to have a few thousandths worth of movement to disable.
Arguing about firing pin blocks is even pointless really, that's just drop protection. If you don't pull the trigger and there's not some 1 in a million catastrophic failure, it's not going to discharge.
What's wrong with you? I've been carrying on a daily basis with one in the tube for 6 years. Removing it and putting it back in constantly is going to end up tearing up the shell. Sitting it in my rack or putting it in my holster doesn't make a difference, it's not going to self-discharge.
You're probably one of those guys who carries a 1911 with the chamber empty, the hammer half cocked, and the safety on.
Look at my sig, it's DESIGNED to be left with one in the chamber. Why do you think it has a dedicated decocking lever?
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[QUOTE=Lonestriper;25170355]I agree, even if there was some catastrophic faliure without a round in the chamber, nothing would shoot.[/QUOTE]
If one blows up in the magazine, it's going to send shrapnel into your body, and probably enough to kill you. More than likely, the explosion is going to set off all the shells in the magazine, and most of your gun will end up inside your hip or thigh.
If one discharges in the barrel, if you don't have some suicidal holster, it's just going to shoot into the ground.
You tell me which is worse.
[QUOTE=DrMortician;25171185]
If one blows up in the magazine, it's going to send shrapnel into your body, and probably enough to kill you. More than likely, the explosion is going to set off all the shells in the magazine, and most of your gun will end up inside your hip or thigh.
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Yes, because rounds have a habit of just blowing up for no reason.
[QUOTE=SBD;25171295]Yes, because rounds have a habit of just blowing up for no reason.[/QUOTE]
Yep, exactly.
Therefor it's fine to leave them in the chamber.
Unless you're a dumbass that likes to pretend your gun is a toy and constantly play with it. Then, just like any special ed student, you're going to need 15 different levels of safety to avoid killing yourself.
One of these days Imma reverse engineer one of these (yes, school again(Gunsmith Course)):
[img]http://www.tcarms.com/firearms/images/silosDetail/3556.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=DrMortician;25171185]Well before this long rant, I'll point out a little piece of what you said that discredits everything else you have to say gun related.(Bolded)
I can assure you, I know far more about the internal workings of guns than you do. If you know so much more, how about you explain why in 6 years of having 1 in the tube on every gun I have, why I haven't had an accident yet, or a discharge?
Glock's passive safety works fine, it's actually better than a kimbers! The glock's firing pin block actually has to be moved a fair bit, on a kimber it only has to have a few thousandths worth of movement to disable.
Arguing about firing pin blocks is even pointless really, that's just drop protection. If you don't pull the trigger and there's not some 1 in a million catastrophic failure, it's not going to discharge.
What's wrong with you? I've been carrying on a daily basis with one in the tube for 6 years. Removing it and putting it back in constantly is going to end up tearing up the shell. Sitting it in my rack or putting it in my holster doesn't make a difference, it's not going to self-discharge.
You're probably one of those guys who carries a 1911 with the chamber empty, the hammer half cocked, and the safety on.
Look at my sig, it's DESIGNED to be left with one in the chamber. Why do you think it has a dedicated decocking lever?
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Sigs are great guns if you want to keep a round in the chamber. I have a P229R which sits in my nightstand with a round chambered and the hammer down. Fantastic gun for that.
Glock however are not. Years upon years of listening to cops hate on glocks because they are unsafe pieces of shit has long since taught me to avoid them like the plague. The issue falls on both sides of the blue line. Criminals regularly wind up shooting themselves just as cops do.
And no. 1911's are to be carried in condition 1. Condition 1 has all four safeties activated and preventing a negligent discharge. Not only does the thumb safety physically block the the hammer from falling, but the grip safety both blocks the trigger from being pulled as well as the firing pin from touching the cartridge.
Unlike the glock which just needs a trigger pull at any time to leave a lovely hole in your leg.
[QUOTE=DrMortician;25171302]Yep, exactly.
Therefor it's fine to leave them in the chamber.
Unless you're a dumbass that likes to pretend your gun is a toy and constantly play with it. Then, just like any special ed student, you're going to need 15 different levels of safety to avoid killing yourself.[/QUOTE]
You make no sense. What kind of bullets do you use that blow up at random?
[QUOTE=GunFox;25171514]Sigs are great guns if you want to keep a round in the chamber. I have a P229R which sits in my nightstand with a round chambered and the hammer down. Fantastic gun for that.
Glock however are not. Years upon years of listening to cops hate on glocks because they are unsafe pieces of shit has long since taught me to avoid them like the plague. The issue falls on both sides of the blue line. Criminals regularly wind up shooting themselves just as cops do.
And no. 1911's are to be carried in condition 1. Condition 1 has all four safeties activated and preventing a negligent discharge. Not only does the thumb safety physically block the the hammer from falling, but the grip safety both blocks the trigger from being pulled as well as the firing pin from touching the cartridge.
Unlike the glock which just needs a trigger pull at any time to leave a lovely hole in your leg.[/QUOTE]
Stop using biased opinions to bash something you haven't personally had a bad experience with.
Glocks are on par with anything else out there. Yes, my glock will keep up with my sig and my kimber without a problem. It's not much to look at, but when it comes to putting lead down range and actually using the gun, it's as good as a gun can be expected to be.
The reason you heard those things from police officers was probably because a few jackasses in their training school blew a leg off trying to holster the gun. That's because they don't know how to keep their finger off the trigger.
I run condition 1 on my 1911. Hammer fully cocked, safety on, one in the tube. Some people consider condition 1 is still condition 1 if you half cock the hammer. Which is a fallacy, halfcock is just there to save your ass if the sear slips off the hammer and lets it fall.
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[QUOTE=Lonestriper;25171524]You make no sense. What kind of bullets do you use that blow up at random?[/QUOTE]
I was coercing him into saying that, to make him realize that having a round in the chamber is safe.
[QUOTE=DrMortician;25171592]I was coercing him into saying that, to make him realize that having a round in the chamber is safe.[/QUOTE]
Go away troll
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;25171633]Go away troll[/QUOTE]
It's not trolling to make someone realize their logical fallacy.
See?
[QUOTE=SBD;25170890]I think always keeping a round chambered it unnecessary unless you intend on keeping the gun holstered or in some way attended.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SBD;25171295]Yes, because rounds have a habit of just blowing up for no reason.[/QUOTE]
He just got it. They aren't going to randomly go off. That's the point.
Fine, always keep a round chambered. But don't come crying to us when you drop your guard one day and a negligent discharge happens.
[QUOTE=SBD;25171858]Fine, always keep a round chambered. But don't come crying to us when you drop your guard one day and a negligent discharge happens.[/QUOTE]
Been handling guns and shooting them since I was 4-5.
I'm currently 23, and I've never had an ND. When I was working on a really shitty SKS for a friend, when I racked the bolt to chamber a round it fired, but that was in a controlled situation, with the gun pointed in a safe direction. Guessing the firing pin spring must have been too weak in it. Had to upgrade the firing pin spring on my 1911 to shoot that 460 round as well, slide velocities with the spring being 24 pounds was enough to make the pin jump out when it chambered another round.
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