Cryogenics seem to be the only reasonable "time travel" to me. The future doesn't exist yet, and the past doesn't exist anymore. But then again, time may work differently, it may not exist at all.
Mayve every fraction of a moment, every quantum event, is a whole seperate dimension.
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;34268804]This needs to be discussed, if not already:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00CK8XC3P_k[/media][/QUOTE]
someone... say something!!!
[QUOTE=Gekkosan;34291852]Doesn't seem like you are too educated on the subject either..
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Was a bit cross at the time, so sorry if I was rude, but I am not, yeah. That's mostly why I don't post here. I'd sound silly. :v:
[QUOTE=Primus;34292202]The future doesn't exist yet, and the past doesn't exist anymore. But then again, time may work differently, it may not exist at all.[/QUOTE]
afaik there's some docu about the string theory which covers this but i might be mistaken
Would I be stupid to think that a device that can plant you in a timeline while everything else moves forward would theoretically allow you to "Pause" time of sorts? Think of a butterfly net, you get caught in the net while the top part of the net keeps growing upward. Of course everything always sounds better in my head so this might be stupid, but am I wrong?
[QUOTE=supersoldier58;34299096]Would I be stupid to think that a device that can plant you in a timeline while everything else moves forward would theoretically allow you to "Pause" time of sorts? Think of a butterfly net, you get caught in the net while the top part of the net keeps growing upward. Of course everything always sounds better in my head so this might be stupid, but am I wrong?[/QUOTE]
well, this is assuming time is being created as we experience it
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;34268804]This needs to be discussed, if not already:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00CK8XC3P_k[/media][/QUOTE]
Why would going faster than light make you go back in time?
[QUOTE=Motie;34301275]Why would going faster than light make you go back in time?[/QUOTE]
i think it's the same principle that makes time slow down for those going near the speed of light
I personally do not think time travel is possible. At least, not back in time.
Because that would mean the future is already happening in millions of ways and every second would be another dimension...
This is way over my head.
I like to think of the theory of a time machine similar to that of a video camera.
when you turn the video camera on, you can record everything from that point on.
And when you watch the past events on the camera, it will not show anything from before the time that it was turned on. With the video camera representing the time machine, this is the reason why we haven't seen anyone from the future, because they cant travel back further than the point of the creation of the machine.
Time is a measurement. So no.
[QUOTE=King of Limbs;34469673]Time is a measurement. So no.[/QUOTE]
Wat
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So, because distance is a measurement, I am incapable of moving backward
There is no doubt that time travel is possible. We do it all the time.
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Look: Just traveled 4 seconds in time.
4 seconds in relation to what?
[QUOTE=Rad McCool;34498190]4 seconds in relation to what?[/QUOTE]
The time that just passed by. Without moving in time nothing would happen. There is no reason that we cant move faster or slower in time, is it? Why should there be a defined time-moving speed that is static?
[QUOTE=userman122;34498273]The time that just passed by. Without moving in time nothing would happen. There is no reason that we cant move faster or slower in time, is it? Why should there be a defined time-moving speed that is static?[/QUOTE]
"We don't know that we can't do it therefore we can" is not sound logic.
The time that just passed by was 4 seconds. In relation to that time you haven't traveled anywhere.
We are time traveling forward as we speak right now.
Due to general relativity we can experience time slower relative to an outside body if we are moving faster (If you are walking you experience time slower, but on a negligible scale). If you were to crank your walking close and closer to c (in which c is the speed of light) you would experience time slower and slower.
So to time travel forward (on a quantum scale you are working slower and your surroundings are working faster) you would have to be moving -> c.
[QUOTE=Motie;34301275]Why would going faster than light make you go back in time?[/QUOTE]
[url=http://sheol.org/throopw/tachyon-pistols.html]Why FTL implies time travel[/url].
[QUOTE=newbs;34499281]We are time traveling forward as we speak right now.
Due to general relativity we can experience time slower relative to an outside body if we are moving faster (If you are walking you experience time slower, but on a negligible scale). If you were to crank your walking close and closer to c (in which c is the speed of light) you would experience time slower and slower.
So to time travel forward (on a quantum scale you are working slower and your surroundings are working faster) you would have to be moving -> c.[/QUOTE]
You don't need general relativity for forward time travel. That can be handled by special relativity. To go backwards, however, you need general.
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[QUOTE=King of Limbs;34469673]Time is a measurement. So no.[/QUOTE]
Wat
[editline]30th January 2012[/editline]
So, because distance is a measurement, I am incapable of moving backward[/QUOTE]
What he was trying to say is that, in a nutshell, time is not a physical thing, but a representation of changes in a physical system (thermodynamics basically). Time travel relies upon the concept that time is a tangible thing, and that the past is a place (not a memory or record), as is the future. From a basic viewpoint time travel is obviously not possible, however when you get into special relativity and other areas of physics, theoretically it could be. It's all very confusing stuff.
[QUOTE=userman122;34498109]There is no doubt that time travel is possible. We do it all the time.
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Look: Just traveled 4 seconds in time.[/QUOTE]
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The time is different for all of us. No doubt. Its just so small differences we cant notice.
[QUOTE=GetOutOfBox;34522533]What he was trying to say is that, in a nutshell, time is not a physical thing, but a representation of changes in a physical system (thermodynamics basically).[/QUOTE]
Time is just as "physical" as space is.
In matters like this it's best to just forget everything you know by intuition and view time as another dimension.
[QUOTE=Rad McCool;34528975]Time is just as "physical" as space is.
In matters like this it's best to just forget everything you know by intuition and view time as another dimension.[/QUOTE]
Agree.
[QUOTE=Rocko's;32720804]Time Travel,
Oh boy does this topic cause debates, it's hard to know if us humans will ever be able to actually travel in time. For me, after watching BTTF, I was puzzled with questions about time travel.
Before we head into a debate, lets read the wiki, [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_travel[/url]
I believe Time Travel is a possibility, but there can be a chance that we will never find out. Or for my life span that is, maybe in the future, but right now its a topic that's still being discovered and debated.[/QUOTE]
By Wiki's definition, no its not possible, but by my definition it is in ONE direction, not both. It is possible to go forward in time, which was proven by Einstein. By putting an atomic clock in a satellite, which was matched up with another one of his atomic clocks, moving at high speeds around the Earth, when the clock was retrieved, it was several seconds slower than the one on Earth. This showed that the clock in the satellite aged slower than the one on Earth, proving his thoery that, at speeds close to the speed of light, hundreds of years will go by feeling like seconds to the traveler. You also shrink alot when you go that fast. So traveling into the future? Possible! Traveling to the past? ... Not so much :(
[QUOTE=Jaleb100;34550463]By Wiki's definition, no its not possible, but by my definition it is in ONE direction, not both. It is possible to go forward in time, which was proven by Einstein. By putting an atomic clock in a satellite, which was matched up with another one of his atomic clocks, moving at high speeds around the Earth, when the clock was retrieved, it was several seconds slower than the one on Earth. This showed that the clock in the satellite aged slower than the one on Earth, proving his thoery that, at speeds close to the speed of light, hundreds of years will go by feeling like seconds to the traveler. You also shrink alot when you go that fast. So traveling into the future? Possible! Traveling to the past? ... Not so much :([/QUOTE]
Traveling to the past is possible under the same theory as allows the travel you just talked about.
I want to believe it is, but at least at the moment, I think it's still science [B]fiction[/B].
[QUOTE=CorporalCupCake;34551415]I want to believe it is, but at least at the moment, I think it's still science [B]fiction[/B].[/QUOTE]
Assuming we can go faster than light (which is only impossible because of our current understanding of acceleration), it's quite factual when looking at modern physics (which look to be very correct).
[QUOTE=Rad McCool;34498190]4 seconds in relation to what?[/QUOTE]
Four seconds related to ABOUT the rate at which our heart beats.
If I understand how time works right, those same 4 seconds passed everywhere in Space at the same time just elsewhere, here, everywhere!
BUT just 4 seconds is a tiny fraction of a considerable fraction of the time that has passed so far to this second.
What is your point?
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