Now where was that Sci-fi thread in GGD about all those popular sci-fi stuff and how their bad (like little points, such as star-trek's problem when it comes to all species looking the same with minor alterations)
p90s are really cool and so is everything from star wars, halo is really lame and has 0 cools and also is full of logic-holes
haha this guy also made this thread [url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1107717?highlight=[/url]
[QUOTE=LuaChobo;34441214]i think nazi zombies in space is more realistic
the guns r real[/QUOTE]
zombies arent realistic and max brooks doesnt know a fucking thing
ITT: someone makes legitimate points about some rather silly things in science fiction, FUCK HIM ONE OF HIS POSITIVE POINTS IS ABOUT HALO. Honestly it's like an elementary school in here.
[QUOTE=abcpea2;34441205]p90s are really cool and so is everything from star wars, halo is really lame and has 0 cools and also is full of logic-holes[/QUOTE]
Oh god, "has 0 cools" is fucking gold
want realistic science fiction? Go for Larry Niven.When he made his Ringworld (it's a disk, like your beloved Halo), he made sure it was scientifically plausible.
[QUOTE=Arachnidus;34440329]As much as I love Halo...it's not even remotely as realistic as you're saying, OP. The designs look realistic because they're based on modern day ones. They're supposed to evoke feelings of modern humanity fighting an alien foe, so that the player can sympathize. Halo still falls into many a plot hole; artificial gravity, time travel, slipspace, etc. And then there's the whole 10k-diameter ring world/superweapon.
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And don't get me started on the simple mechanics of MJOLNIR armor, the [I]Pillar of Autumn's[/I] liftoff at the end of Reach, and a bunch of different things about Covenant technology.[/QUOTE]
Or the random super ODST squad with no organization, the older SIII's in Reach and pretty much anything else from the books Bungie ended up going 'lolnope' to.
Plus 10 points for a content-filled opening post, but minus several million for the content being p. shit
Also, nitpicking in science fiction is silly; most of the time any explanations given will be psychobabble that sounds vaguely plausible to the unknowledgable layman.
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Can't beat megamaid.[/QUOTE]
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I beg to differ.
I agree that the weapon you posted is something that I could imagine seeing in the future if we are still using munitions and non-plasma/electric weapons.
I was reading this shit and forgot I was on facepunch for a second, that's how bad it actually was.
[QUOTE=Wootman;34440398]Who cares it's fiction it's not supposed to be realistic.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Chubsmagee;34440451]Who gives a shit. It's science [B]FICTION[/B].[/QUOTE]
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Also
SCIENCE
[B]FICTION [/B][/QUOTE]
Guys, fiction means made up, not unrealistic. Just being fiction doesn't mean it's supposed to be unrealistic.
[QUOTE=AeroSinthetic;34441746]Guys, fiction means made up, not unrealistic. Just being fiction doesn't mean it's supposed to be unrealistic.[/QUOTE]
The problem is that the science in Science Fiction isn't an automatic declaration of realism, it's a force set up to establish and carry along the narrative. In literally all of the OP's examples the author's intention isn't hard science, it's more or less a "gun with occasional science" deal and judging them as good works based on the malleability of the science instead of the author's intent and execution is moving the goal posts just to complain.
I thought we already had a halo thread in ggd
I'm pretty sure you'll be able to build a halo out of cardboard with all those boxes
Imperial Destroyers are amongst the most badass designs ever
Also walkers are supposed to walk where wheels and tracks can't reach
and all the others are explained with tropes
I love how people praise Halo, and then fail to see it's a pretty much a marginal rehash of Bungie's earlier trilogy, Marathon - dumbed down to make it easier for people to understand and with some more movie homages.
Halo's plot? Bread and butter. You're average Xbox kiddo understands it.
Marathon's? People still actively argue about how it actually went down and all the finite details. And are still making new discoveries based on in-game content.
Oh, not to mention that the alien ground invasions in Halo make little to no sense. All their vehicles are painted florescent colors. Most alien weapons fire slow-moving plasma that a freaking human being has a chance of dodging at medium distance. And I fail to see how the Banshees have any air control with how pathetically slow they are. Sure sure, we may have somehow lost all of our air bases everywhere - but even if we had a single surviving fighter, bomber or ground-attack plane - we'd just be wrecking their day.
1. the armour: the armour the jaffa use is to protect against jaffa weapons... not bullets.
2. the promethius sparks: the ships SHIELDS are being hit, not the hull.
I did kind of like how the human ships in Halo looked. They're bulky, heavy things, which is what I'd think our first real capital ships would look like. That or we'd have giant space shuttle shaped things, I don't know.
So let me get this straight, he tries to pin logical arguments against a whole shitload of guns used in sci-fi films/shows/etc., and then picks the Halo assault rifle as the best sci-fi gun ever?
This is the same gun that has no iron-sights, nothing to compensate for recoil, requires a bolt to be pulled to remove the clip, and has no rails for attaching scopes, sights, grenade launchers, etc.
I love Halo, but this guys is either full-on retarded or troll of the year.
I've always imagined human spaceships to have that spinning ring for simulated gravity and living space, and an ion engine on the middle
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Best design. People forget that your spaceship doesn't benefit from being pointy since there's no air in space.
OP Halo fanfag.
Nothing to see here
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[QUOTE=latin_geek;34442301]I've always imagined human spaceships to have that spinning ring for simulated gravity and living space, and an ion engine on the middle[/QUOTE]
Pretty much this. A ring is the best possible design to simulate gravity. Even better if it's a large living area, and the light source is in the middle, so it's always above you.
[QUOTE=Cone;34442411]Pretty much this. A ring is the best possible design to simulate gravity. Even better if it's a large living area, and the light source is in the middle, so it's always above you.[/QUOTE]
and you can get different levels of gravity including zero g which some equipement could require or work better under.
[QUOTE=latin_geek;34442431]and you can get different levels of gravity including zero g which some equipement could require or work better under.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I saw a concept a while back that was for a ship capable of sustaining people for the time it'd take to get anywhere in this huge galaxy. It was sort of a tube going through several rings, and the tube would have an elevator so you could get to the different rings. The rings had people's homes in them, and you could change the gravity by how much the ring spins. So a ring devoted to teaching people how to function outside the ship could change its gravity to better train them, or an entirely automated factory could use some crazy Rube-Goldberg shit with more or less gravity, depending on what was necessary.
I think it's the most probable design, but funding something big enough to get people to want to stay there would be pretty much impossible, unless we discovered the sun was about to explode or something.
science [B]fiction[/B]
I have been enlightened in my sci-fi ways.
Everything but Halo is unrealistic shit.
