Facepunch Collaborative VII: One More Till An Octave - General

Well I'm uploading this damn thing and its uploading very slowly. [editline]12th November 2011[/editline] Sent

[QUOTE=Hakita;33238901]Really? What genre? Also, heres the song I'm going to submit: [media]http://soundcloud.com/hakita/intergalactic-interference[/media][/QUOTE] Wow, that's the most progressive you've ever been. Now I know you are more prog than I first knew. But be reasonable, that's basically an entire EP on this album. :pwn: Don't split it up, because it's better as one. That's like having Pink Floyd's Echoes split up, just can't happen.

[QUOTE=AK'z;33249180]Wow, that's the most progressive you've ever been. Now I know you are more prog than I first knew. But be reasonable, that's basically an entire EP on this album. :pwn: Don't split it up, because it's better as one. That's like having Pink Floyd's Echoes split up, just can't happen.[/QUOTE] Well thanks for the compliment. Also, GP5 WAS a really big part of what I have become, so I want to give it a proper goodbye, which is why its pretty much an entire EP.

[QUOTE=Hakita;33249304] GP5[/QUOTE] Not quite sure what that means, but yeah you've evolved from Midi novice to midi pro. Progressive Midi is your thing. :v:

[QUOTE=AK'z;33249452]Not quite sure what that means, but yeah you've evolved from Midi novice to midi pro. Progressive Midi is your thing. :v:[/QUOTE] GP5 (Guitar Pro 5) was the program that got me into song writing. Its what I have used for writing most of my songs. Now I have my hands on GP6, which sounds better, so I'm starting to use it now. Incase you haven't heard a GP6 song of mine yet, have this one: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOUaI4qwh7s[/media]

The thing you need to work on now though, when you're progressing into RSE is to really mix and master the instruments so that they sound lifelike. That's at least what I would've done if I were making songs in RSE, midi gets by with just being midi, but when you try to mimic real instruments, you really want to play around with it so that it does in fact sound lifelike.

although it sounds better, I prefer the original drum sounds and other sounds. That snare is too harsh for midi. I preferred when it "didn't" sound realistic. From 1:41, it's nice and good ol' Hakita.

[QUOTE=Dick Tracy;33249522]The thing you need to work on now though, when you're progressing into RSE is to really mix and master the instruments so that they sound lifelike. That's at least what I would've done if I were making songs in RSE, midi gets by with just being midi, but when you try to mimic real instruments, you really want to play around with it so that it does in fact sound lifelike.[/QUOTE] And I want to learn, but as you should know, a person can't just learn something like this in a second.

[QUOTE=Dick Tracy;33249522]The thing you need to work on now though, when you're progressing into RSE is to really mix and master the instruments so that they sound lifelike. [/QUOTE] Dude, you talk as if you're pro. :v: Hakita must have spent hours with that program to make that one song. I know he's been making midi for literally a year or more now. My advice, is to avoid technicalities and just be yourself and the more artistic the better. You can have the most generic album and yet be the best produced.

[QUOTE=AK'z;33249587] Hakita must have spent hours with that program to make that one song. I know he's been making midi for literally a year or more now. My advice, is to avoid technicalities and just be yourself and the more artistic the better. You can have the most generic album and yet be the best produced.[/QUOTE] 5 hours to be exact if we are talking about the Medley song. I made that one in one night without pauses because I was bored. If we're talking about Intergalactic Interference, maybe around 2 days, I dunno. And I am being myself as well as I can, but I still try to learn from criticism as much as I can. It can never change 'me', though :smile:

[QUOTE=Hakita;33249545]And I want to learn, but as you should know, a person can't just learn something like this in a second.[/QUOTE] No ofcourse not, I think Hell march would be a great song for you to start working on with your soon-to-be mastering skills, overpowering drums, groovy bass and hard-kicking guitar will be a good starting point. Something I always do when I master tracks, are cutting it up so that every part of the song is cut into pieces, be it intro, pre-verse, verse etc. That way, you can EQ the different instruments to fit the needs of each part of the song. For instance in Hell March, I would fix with the bass in the intro so that it's gnarly and is up in your face, fix with the EQ on drums so that the bass guitar and bass drum both pound away but with the bass drum taking hold of the lower frequencies of the bass spectrum (200-400ish) while bass guitar takes 350-600 or something like that. [editline]12th November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=AK'z;33249587][B]Dude, you talk as if you're pro. :v:[/B] Hakita must have spent hours with that program to make that one song. I know he's been making midi for literally a year or more now. My advice, is to avoid technicalities and just be yourself and the more artistic the better. You can have the most generic album and yet be the best produced.[/QUOTE] :smug:

[QUOTE=Dick Tracy;33249669] Something I always do when I master tracks, are cutting it up so that every part of the song is cut into pieces, be it intro, pre-verse, verse etc. That way, you can EQ the different instruments to fit the needs of each part of the song. [/QUOTE] This isn't really possible in most of my songs, since they don't really have a structure. Its just intro > music > outro for me. And even though I understand little of what you said, I think I might be able to figure something out that can please you.

[QUOTE=Dick Tracy;33249669] :smug:[/QUOTE] Stop killing smug. PLEEEEEEEEASE.

[QUOTE=AK'z;33249759]Stop killing smug. PLEEEEEEEEASE.[/QUOTE] I find this funny. Mostly because you posted it.

Well, cut it up so that each riff that's played is its own part sort of, so Intro riff > riff > riff > riff > outro riff then. =) The most important part really is to make sure so that each instrument has its own pocket, and that nothing really overpowers the other instruments. That's probably the most important part. The tricky part is that some instruments (bass guitar and bass drum, bass guitar/drum and floor toms, guitar and cymbal) share the same "frequency" (we can call it pocket) so that means you're going to have to make sure that they can share the same spot without overpowering eachother. Really, you have pre-verses, verses, choruses, and structure in your songs. =)

[QUOTE=Dick Tracy;33249877] Really, you have pre-verses, verses, choruses, and structure in your songs. =)[/QUOTE] Well, would you like to point out some from a song of mine? Also, I'll try to figure out the whole mixing thing, just not now, since its 0:32 and I'm not very good at learning in the middle of the night.

[media]http://soundcloud.com/hakita/intergalactic-interference[/media] 00:00>00:32 INTRO 00:32>01:08 STICK 01:08>01:40 PRE-VERSE 01:40>01:48 VERSE 01:48>02:04 CHORUS 02:04>02:12 VERSE 02:12>02:28 CHORUS 02:28>02:49 VERSE 02:50>03:38 BREAKDOWN That's how I would label the first part of your song there, I'm not entirely sure how to label instrumental music since there are obviously a lot more sticks and variations than a regular pop song or rock song (who usually go intro pre-verse verse pre-chorus chorus verse chorus stick chorus chorus ending), but as you can see you can label the various parts of your song. [editline]12th November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=AK'z;33249759]Stop killing smug. PLEEEEEEEEASE.[/QUOTE] I can :smug: how I damn :smug: want to :smug: :smug:

cool another one give me ideas fp!

Started working on a track a few days ago, if I finish it I will definitely submit it to this one.

[QUOTE=thisispain;33250179]cool another one give me ideas fp![/QUOTE] The track that you did for VI was very good, so I hope that your new one will be as good or better.

[QUOTE=thisispain;33250179]cool another one give me ideas fp![/QUOTE] Make a song that people can fuck to.

[QUOTE=thisispain;33250179]cool another one give me ideas fp![/QUOTE] Alice in Wonderland syndrome.

[QUOTE=T.F.W.O.;33247956][t]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20799748/facepunch%20collaboritive%20VII.jpg[/t] Bam! First submission fro album art.[/QUOTE] no idea what the fuck that is but I like it

...NO REMIXES?! GODAMMIT! I already made the song... [editline]13th November 2011[/editline] Can I post the damn thing anyways...I worked hard on it, dammit.

Will write a new track for this!

[QUOTE=raubana;33255449]...NO REMIXES?! GODAMMIT! I already made the song... [editline]13th November 2011[/editline] Can I post the damn thing anyways...I worked hard on it, dammit.[/QUOTE] No. The rule is there for legal reasons. Since the album is being sold, we can't ride off fair use or anything. Either contact the artist and ask them nicely if you can use it on the album(Probably won't hurt to mention the money is going towards charity) or make a new song.

I'll join in, not sure I'll make the deadline (whenever it is chosen) though, I've got to mix my bands songs (and we've got basstracking left).

I'm in.

So far five submissions.

I consider myself a pretty good singer, so if anyone needs any vocals send me a pm and I'll try it out.