[QUOTE=1nfiniteseed;47546444]I love watching prequel arguments these days because 75% of them are just people regurgitating plinkett review points as if they were the ones who thought of them.[/QUOTE]
Stoklasa pretty much nailed every point on why the prequels are just plain bad movies.
Go back and watch them again. They're not so great when you're older.
The only thing that bugged me is that Chewie looks too young. Could have used some grey hairs.
Well Wookiees do live for a long time according to the old EU Lore, maybe they kept that.
[QUOTE=Cypher_09;47545114]The character of Anakin had SO MUCH potiential. He's a fucking great character with a lot of depth and emotional range. But the prequels just took a huge steaming dump on him. It's not even wholly Hayden christensnnensnens fault, it's hard to pull off an amazing performance when you've got a script that awful and sand getting everywhere.[/QUOTE]
The Clone Wars fleshed out Anakin better than any of the movies
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNFV4jr5fC4[/media]
[QUOTE=God of Ashes;47547930]The Clone Wars fleshed out Anakin better than any of the movies
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNFV4jr5fC4[/media][/QUOTE]
It also had a two part episode where Jar Jar was the star and made out with a fish lady repeatedly.
Also apparently Yoda sees the future thanks to Liam Neeson, where everyone gets slaughtered by Clone Troopers at the Jedi Temple, but he dismisses it cause it's "superstitious."
The show is ok, but there are still some major bullshit thanks to how bad the source material is.
Honestly one of the major problems with the prequel lightsaber fights is that they play out like an interpretive dance, as choreographed by someone who has no emotion, rather then an actual fight. They also had some serious problems with pacing, the episode 3 lightsaber fight was so long I actually fell asleep in the theater before it ended.
[QUOTE=Tuskin;47547516]Well Wookiees do live for a long time according to the old EU Lore, maybe they kept that.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, he would be like 230 years old by TFA, and that's like "Prime" age for Wookies.
[QUOTE=God of Ashes;47547930]The Clone Wars fleshed out Anakin better than any of the movies
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNFV4jr5fC4[/media][/QUOTE]
the clone wars were pretty much everything the prequals should have been
it's a pretty good show that really captures star wars well, sadly though it's still just a kids show, and still has a lot of the bullshit the original films had
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[QUOTE=Tudd;47548210]It also had a two part episode where Jar Jar was the star and made out with a fish lady repeatedly.
Also apparently Yoda sees the future thanks to Liam Neeson, where everyone gets slaughtered by Clone Troopers at the Jedi Temple, but he dismisses it cause it's "superstitious."
The show is ok, but there are still some major bullshit thanks to how bad the source material is.[/QUOTE]
that's one of the bigger flaws
not enough total lack of Jar Jar
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[QUOTE=Zeos;47548711]Yeah, he would be like 230 years old by TFA, and that's like "Prime" age for Wookies.[/QUOTE]
Chewie has seen some shit
What's up with the really quiet voice repeating Luke's lines?
[QUOTE=1nfiniteseed;47546444]I love watching prequel arguments these days because 75% of them are just people regurgitating plinkett review points as if they were the ones who thought of them.[/QUOTE]
Are you upset that RLM basically systematically demolished each of the prequels? Because they pretty much took covered everything, so you can't say something without repeating it. Ever since those reviews were made, the prequels have started getting the shit they rightly deserve.
The only attempt in the other direction was that guy who wrote like a 300 page rebuttal trying to prove Phantom Menace wasn't awful. (He failed)
[QUOTE=1nfiniteseed;47546444]I love watching prequel arguments these days because 75% of them are just people regurgitating plinkett review points as if they were the ones who thought of them.[/QUOTE]
It's kind of hard not to accidentally or intentionally quote plinkett's review of the prequels when they're longer than the movies themselves and subsequently cover literally everything that needs to be covered about the films.
[QUOTE=Skyward;47540378]The first trailer was cool, but it didn't hype me up like this one did.
This one actually made me realize that A NEW STAR WARS MOVIE is coming and how fucking awesome that actually is.[/QUOTE]
It almost makes you forget how shitty the last 3 were, I hope this is really good.
[QUOTE=Cone;47545081]i think the biggest example of the fighting's sterility is how anakin is supposed to have this tangible seething rage beneath the surface that everyone can sense from the start, but he still fights pretty much exactly the same as all the jedi dudes until the final fight so the audience is just like "i guess he feels angry now"
and then he has to pull an exaggerated grumpy gus face to hammer home that he is indeed angry now
>:([/QUOTE]
Compare this to Luke in the original trilogy, when he's winning against Vader. How much rage comes through, he basically beats on a downed Vader like an enraged animalistic caveman. The duels may not be as flashy but the raw emotion comes through that much better.
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;47551715]If this movie ends up sucking I am going to cry so hard.[/QUOTE]
star wars will have no hope
Is it just me or do those X-Wings look like they're out of McQuarrie's concept art?
[IMG]http://a.dilcdn.com/bl/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2014/01/31-Dogfight.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=tempunary;47552205]Is it just me or do those X-Wings look like they're out of McQuarrie's concept art?
[IMG]http://a.dilcdn.com/bl/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2014/01/31-Dogfight.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
They're using all the rejected concept art for this movie
It wasn't "rejected", just redesigned.
It was used and modified.
Its been done a lot in Star Wars
Mace Windu was a character in the original Star Wars rough draft but was cut out and reused later in the PT
[QUOTE=Tudd;47548210]It also had a two part episode where Jar Jar was the star and made out with a fish lady repeatedly.
Also apparently Yoda sees the future thanks to Liam Neeson, where everyone gets slaughtered by Clone Troopers at the Jedi Temple, but he dismisses it cause it's "superstitious."
The show is ok, but there are still some major bullshit thanks to how bad the source material is.[/QUOTE]
I love the clone focused episodes in that series. Clones kick ass.
[QUOTE=tempunary;47552205]Is it just me or do those X-Wings look like they're out of McQuarrie's concept art?
[IMG]http://a.dilcdn.com/bl/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2014/01/31-Dogfight.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Something about extremely detailed sci-fi with pastel (is that right?) colors makes me feel super nostalgic.
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;47551715]If this movie ends up sucking I am going to cry so hard.[/QUOTE]
Probably won't unless JJ Abrams is on meth.
If he fucks up this movie then he can kiss his directing career goodbye. No one is going to want to hire the guy who ruined the new star wars movie.
[QUOTE=Tmaxx;47553439]Something about extremely detailed sci-fi with pastel (is that right?) colors makes me feel super nostalgic.[/QUOTE]
pastel colors are god damn sexy
[QUOTE=Ithon;47543964]oh yeah, just noticed this is going to be in 3D. woooo[/QUOTE]
It's going to be post production 3D [url=http://realorfake3d.com/][1][/url], which looks like absolute dog shit.
Nothing that wasn't filmed/created in full stereoscopic is worth seeing in 3D.
[QUOTE=Kyle902;47548662]Honestly one of the major problems with the prequel lightsaber fights is that they play out like an interpretive dance, as choreographed by someone who has no emotion, rather then an actual fight. They also had some serious problems with pacing, the episode 3 lightsaber fight was so long I actually fell asleep in the theater before it ended.[/QUOTE]
When I first watched Star Wars, especially with Vaders armor, the lightsaber fights reminded me of two medieval knights having a duel.
The prequels turned Jedi into fucking ninjas and I hate it because that's all they're ever portrayed as in every media ever now.
Didn't one of the producers (or someone important) say that they were basically combining a cowboy film with a medival film?
The original is Stagecoach + Kurosawa's The Hidden Fortress.
[QUOTE=FingerSpazem;47554131]When I first watched Star Wars, especially with Vaders armor, the lightsaber fights reminded me of two medieval knights having a duel.
The prequels turned Jedi into fucking ninjas and I hate it because that's all they're ever portrayed as in every media ever now.[/QUOTE]
I think it's alright to portray Jedis as very fast and agile. After all they're supposed to have incredible reflexes, and unlike medieval knights their swords are very light and they wear no armour. Also the lightsaber fights in the original trilogy all involve people who are either old, inexperienced or crippled, so the fighting style being slower than in the prequel isn't that inconsistent.
The problem is that they spend too much time jumping around and showing off for no reason rather than actually fighting.
[QUOTE=Kljunas;47554273]I think it's alright to portray Jedis as very fast and agile. After all they're supposed to have incredible reflexes, and unlike medieval knights their swords are very light and they wear no armour. Also the lightsaber fights in the original trilogy all involve people who are either old, inexperienced or crippled, so the fighting style being slower than in the prequel isn't that inconsistent.
The problem is that they spend too much time jumping around and showing off for no reason rather than actually fighting.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, agile fast fighters would be rad and acceptable as long as their movements are deliberate and with purpose.
The main reason Vader fought the way he did though was because he practiced a defensive form of light-saber dueling. Some styles were totally reactionary too.
I guess I really just want to see variety in Jedi/Sith combat styles and I especially don't want to see all those pointless flips and flourishes.
So fucking hyped. Time for a few months of Star Wars avatars.
[QUOTE=Kljunas;47554273]I think it's alright to portray Jedis as very fast and agile. After all they're supposed to have incredible reflexes, and unlike medieval knights their swords are very light and they wear no armour. Also the lightsaber fights in the original trilogy all involve people who are either old, inexperienced or crippled, so the fighting style being slower than in the prequel isn't that inconsistent.
The problem is that they spend too much time jumping around and showing off for no reason rather than actually fighting.[/QUOTE]
They were originally supposed to be battle monks, not ninjas with amazing reflexes. There's a reason Luke never jumped around either.
Also I know this is a byte from Plinkett's review but I liked the original thing where light-sabers were only a Jedi's weapon and Vader had a red one because he was a fallen Jedi. It sounds really cool the more I think of it.
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