• Sunshine
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[QUOTE=BmB;20246741]If you think this is realistic, serious or deep and shit you are dumb. Every step of the way the movie messed up it's own potential in favor of shaky horror footage, vague plot and hollywood realism to appeal to people whose only idea of how anything works is through movies.[/QUOTE] if you're complaining about realism in movies, you've got alot more complaining to do. and in sci-fi in particular, although this may come as a surprise to some, it isn't about how the science works, it's about people, or in some cases machines, and their interactions. and I do believe it is deep. at least it makes you think, and thats more than I can say of most movies these days. if you ask me, it's more about death than anything else. I can't exactly explain right now.
The movie is hardly even based on the mission itself but the effects it has on the crew during the journey as they are needed to make some difficult choices.
"It's a sci-fi movie" isn't an excuse. In fact if they want to be serious it works against them. There's not a single plot point in the whole damn movie that wouldn't have been better if it had been more realistic. Including the bloody character interactions you are raving about. I'm almost tempted to think now that the script writers knew at least a bit about wtf they were doing but the actual film makers simply didn't and just ran with it. Whatever food for thought there is inthere is drowned out completely by the idiocy of the characters, throwaway dialouge, eye rolling logic and shitty effects.
My only complaint is that I wish they had ditched the crazy captain thing. Stretching out the "someone has to die so we have enough oxygen" thing could have provided all the suspense and action they needed.
[QUOTE=Take_Opal;20248616]It could be that. Or it could be that you're just stupid. I think the latter.[/QUOTE] I pick you :3:
[QUOTE=BmB;20261685]"It's a sci-fi movie" isn't an excuse. In fact if they want to be serious it works against them. There's not a single plot point in the whole damn movie that wouldn't have been better if it had been more realistic. Including the bloody character interactions you are raving about. I'm almost tempted to think now that the script writers knew at least a bit about wtf they were doing but the actual film makers simply didn't and just ran with it. Whatever food for thought there is inthere is drowned out completely by the idiocy of the characters, throwaway dialouge, eye rolling logic and shitty effects.[/QUOTE] Are you one of those types that just waltz into popular threads and shit on them to see reactions? Oh wait there's a name for those, Trolls.
'tis a good film. Not hugely amazing, but not bad.
Probably one of my favorite Sci-Fi movies of all time. It's eerie, beautiful, and mystifying at times.
[QUOTE=BmB;20246741]If you think this is realistic, serious or deep and shit you are dumb. Every step of the way the movie messed up it's own potential in favor of shaky horror footage, vague plot and hollywood realism to appeal to people whose only idea of how anything works is through movies.[/QUOTE] Where did you want it to go? Straight to dropping the bomb? There'd be a whole act missing. What about instead of a human crazed captain, they instead get a supernatural being onboard. While it's a Sci-Fi film, this one is at least grounded in reality. He was talking to God, but God was the sun. If not for the final half, there wasn't more much they could go rather than something with the ship going wrong again.
I loved this movie, it was scary, fascinating and entertaining. But is it supposed to have some interference? It's like static, but you catch a glimpse of the face of the captain or something. It happens around the time of entry of the "abandoned" station, it was pretty confusing yet scary.
I think that technique, along with the one used at the end in which dimensions and shapes seem to be warping in time, are designed to imply that physics don't quite play by the rules so close to the sun, where humans shouldn't be. A similar effect is used in [I]Contact[/I], when [sp]Jodie Foster travels through a wormhole, and her face begins to warp and change, and you see her saying things before she's said them[/sp]. It's very eerie.
That would be good if it wasn't for the fact that physics are known to work quite well in and around the Sun. Whereas a wormhole pretty much by definition bends those laws and takes you to places where some of them may not apply or work like you expect. [QUOTE=Huacati;20286341]Where did you want it to go? Straight to dropping the bomb? There'd be a whole act missing. What about instead of a human crazed captain, they instead get a supernatural being onboard. While it's a Sci-Fi film, this one is at least grounded in reality. He was talking to God, but God was the sun. If not for the final half, there wasn't more much they could go rather than something with the ship going wrong again.[/QUOTE] No, no. What are you even on about? The character himself wasn't so bad. It was the style that really threw me off. Shaky horror footage stopped being scary and started being annoying the 5th time I saw the fucking effect. This being the 500th time makes me want to puke.
Right because scientist have been inside the sun to find out that physics work fine inside of it. :colbert:
There's lots of light and stuffs coming out from the inside, it's fairly easy to get a grasp of what goes on inside something when those insides are pouring out en masse 24/7 for billions of years.
The "broken physics" at the end of the movie were caused by the immense velocity the payload is moving at, the gravitational pull of the sun combined with it's thrusters at full power were said to "smear space and time into each other" or something, it's got nothing to do with the sun it's self, only the velocity they were moving at.
[QUOTE=BmB;20292842] I enjoy trolling and a variety of other frowned upon activities[/QUOTE] Please leave this thread. First of all, the movie's genre is called science fiction. science FICTION. don't complain about unrealistic scenarios or faulty theories
[QUOTE=Micr0;20293008]The "broken physics" at the end of the movie were caused by the immense velocity the payload is moving at, the gravitational pull of the sun combined with it's thrusters at full power were said to "smear space and time into each other" or something, it's got nothing to do with the sun it's self, only the velocity they were moving at.[/QUOTE] I expect the weight of the nuclear thingamajig also played a part in messing with the physics. I've seen this movie about twice, missing one or two bits due to my bad timing. It has worked its way into Film4s' rotation now, so anyone in the UK wanting to watch it without paying, keep an eye on Film4. This movie is amazing, excellent soundtrack, great atmosphere, strange mixture of genres, great acting for the most part. I may have to go hunt down a BD copy so I can see it in full HD and not 576i/p. The ending [b]will[/b] make you feel something, insignificance, sadness, that strange feeling that occurs when something amazing happens. Anything.
[QUOTE=BmB;20292842]There's lots of light and stuffs coming out from the inside, it's fairly easy to get a grasp of what goes on inside something when those insides are pouring out en masse 24/7 for billions of years.[/QUOTE] True. But what scientist say is inside of the freakin earth is just a [u]theory[/u].
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;20263014]My only complaint is that I wish they had ditched the crazy captain thing. Stretching out the "someone has to die so we have enough oxygen" thing could have provided all the suspense and action they needed.[/QUOTE] There were like 5 scenes in the movie where they could have squeezed out a hell of a lot more suspense, but instead it was just like... "Some shit's about to go down." "Oh man, we might not make it." "That's right, one of us is not going to make it." "But who?" "Me." "DUN DUN DUUUUUNN"
[QUOTE=Tillghast;20294133]Please leave this thread. First of all, the movie's genre is called science fiction. science FICTION. don't complain about unrealistic scenarios or faulty theories[/QUOTE] No u. Some vague definition of "art" is never an excuse for making shit. You didn't just take the name of a genre, highlight a word and said that because that word means a story that was made up it has a right to be stupid did you? [editline]09:23AM[/editline] [QUOTE=D0C H.;20295231]True. But what scientist say is inside of the freakin earth is just a [u]theory[/u].[/QUOTE] "Theory" being defined as "the best explanation we have for all of the observed evidence". Which is pretty solid.
But not absolute. Therefore. We still dont [u]know[/u] whats inside of the sun.
[thread=894735]How can you know anything for certain, really?[/thread]
This movie is the fucking shit. If you haven't watched it, you need to.
[QUOTE=BmB;20319936][thread=894735]How can you know anything for certain, really?[/thread][/QUOTE] Exactly! :science:
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