[QUOTE=VQ35HR;28631726]prove me wrong phaggot
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no the point was that it was a simulated sweet taste, you don't understand what I meant, read it again
also, too many fruits WILL make you fat, high sugar content[/QUOTE]
lmao thats like saying tasting fat will make you fat( prove me wrong lmao(. full on retarded bullshit, diet soda wont have any impact on anything in nondiabetics (where artificial sweeteners could raise insulin).
Take into account all the Diabetics out there who drink the absolute shit out of diet drinks, if they raised the insulin levels at all, we would have figured out that they bad after all.
Wouldn't raising you insulin levels be a good thing? It makes you cells burn more glucose, and it transforms glycogen into glucose so you can burn that shit as well.
Diet substances such as Coca-Cola and the likes of it, never have a major effect on my blood sugars as a diabetic.
It will not increase the need for extra insulin. They're fine as they're. They contrain almost 0 calories and have no effect whatsoever, as I said, on sugar levels.
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[QUOTE=sp00ks;28633362]Wouldn't raising you insulin levels be a good thing? It makes you cells burn more glucose, and it transforms glycogen into glucose so you can burn that shit as well.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't burn, it allows the body to convey sugar into your cells.
"The "substrate" proteins that are phosphorylated by the Insulin Receptor include a protein called "IRS-1" for "insulin receptor substrate 1". IRS-1 binding and phosphorylation eventually leads to an increase in the high affinity glucose transporter (Glut4) molecules on the outer membrane of insulin-responsive tissues, including muscle cells and adipose tissue, and therefore to an increase in the uptake of glucose from blood into these tissues. [b]In other words, the glucose transporter Glut4 is transported from cellular vesicles to the cell surface, where it then can mediate the transport of glucose into the cell."[/b]
Also, depends on how high or low your sugar levels are. As a regular human being, without diabetes, it actually shouldn't matter you in the long range. Though it is included in the list of factor that contribute to how far can you go with your physique.
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[QUOTE=Kel|oggs;28632186]Take into account all the Diabetics out there who drink the absolute shit out of diet drinks, if they raised the insulin levels at all, we would have figured out that they bad after all.[/QUOTE]
Diabetics can drink whatever, almost whenever. It depends on the timing and just increasing the insulin. But as I said, it has no effect what soever in comparison to regular Sodas.
[QUOTE=VQ35HR;28630731]milk is okay once a day but pop is a definite no
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milk: high source of protein, ONLY 8% daily fat like the guy said (who gives a fcuk lol that's pretty much nothing for how much protons it has)[/QUOTE]
I prefer cottage cheese because your less likely to consume alot
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[QUOTE=sp00ks;28633362]Wouldn't raising you insulin levels be a good thing? It makes you cells burn more glucose, and it transforms glycogen into glucose so you can burn that shit as well.[/QUOTE]
that only really applies to after workouts because after workouts your glycogen levels are depleted and need to be replenished, but if your glycogen store are already full then whatever extra simple carbs you consume store as fat.
I doubt most peoples glycogen levels are depleted after a normal workout though.
Also, what are you talking about? I honestly don't understand.
[QUOTE=sp00ks;28642542]I doubt most peoples glycogen levels are depleted after a normal workout though.
Also, what are you talking about? I honestly don't understand.[/QUOTE]
Okay, the main fuel your body burns are carbs, so after you work out you are losing some of your glycogen and after a really good weight lifting session your glycogen stores are gonna be depleted. And what do you not understand? (Not trying to say in a condescending way)
[QUOTE=entershikari;28642608]Okay, the main fuel your body burns are carbs, so after you work out you are losing some of your glycogen and after a really good weight lifting session your glycogen stores are gonna be depleted. And what do you not understand? (Not trying to say in a condescending way)[/QUOTE]
im p sure delepeted implys completely gone instead of a small drop, unless ofc youre on a low carb diet and doing 3x15 on like 8 different exercises( just any high volume routine)
[QUOTE=entershikari;28642608]Okay, the main fuel your body burns are carbs, so after you work out you are losing some of your glycogen and after a really good weight lifting session your glycogen stores are gonna be depleted. And what do you not understand? (Not trying to say in a condescending way)[/QUOTE]
I just wasn't really talking about carbs or anything. It came out of the blue.
But still, I don't think people's glycogen stores are going to be completely depleted after a workout.
[QUOTE=sp00ks;28650290]I just wasn't really talking about carbs or anything. It came out of the blue.
But still, I don't think people's glycogen stores are going to be completely depleted after a workout.[/QUOTE]
yeah they will depending on the work you are doing like a weight lifter going for a heavy lift session for about an hour and works their tail end off will likely deplete their glycogen stores since weightlifting is carb burning by nature so your body needs protein and carbs after a work out, simple ones preferably, because when your body takes in the simple carbs it rushes all the nutrients to the stores including the protein and that helps with muscle synthesis, but that is like the basics of it.
[QUOTE=entershikari;28655866]yeah they will depending on the work you are doing like a weight lifter going for a heavy lift session for about an hour and works their tail end off will likely deplete their glycogen stores since weightlifting is carb burning by nature so your body needs protein and carbs after a work out, simple ones preferably, because when your body takes in the simple carbs it rushes all the nutrients to the stores including the protein and that helps with muscle synthesis, but that is like the basics of it.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:8aG4Ma3lfJ0J:www.ker.com/library/advances/264.pdf+GLYCOGEN+DEPLETION&hl=iw&gl=il&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESha0pPGMiyY3h_Ovq3xMOxFIN4_aXb2V1PBm-ZUxXxzJDTPxz64EGj95hFAjEx7ofhZP6zRHRwBEbcjB8oqy9nf-BbKRzag5HrsD8b3AXiB-FXD9EGAP9WYv09SEtYiBPzpuqgn&sig=AHIEtbRU39xWgehYmx8wDveBwYYQeGJKQA[/url]
Just read it.
[QUOTE=Seith;28657737][url]http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:8aG4Ma3lfJ0J:www.ker.com/library/advances/264.pdf+GLYCOGEN+DEPLETION&hl=iw&gl=il&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESha0pPGMiyY3h_Ovq3xMOxFIN4_aXb2V1PBm-ZUxXxzJDTPxz64EGj95hFAjEx7ofhZP6zRHRwBEbcjB8oqy9nf-BbKRzag5HrsD8b3AXiB-FXD9EGAP9WYv09SEtYiBPzpuqgn&sig=AHIEtbRU39xWgehYmx8wDveBwYYQeGJKQA[/url]
Just read it.[/QUOTE]
Nice, that explains it all. :D
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