Why do atheist celebrate easter? - General

Because deal with it.

[QUOTE=toxicweirdo;21171686]That's [b]REALLY[/b] offensive. Even if you don't believe in Jesus, have some respect for the holiday. You're not an anarchist, so stop trying to be one.[/QUOTE] So sorry your messiah is basically a vampire. I'm also sorry about how sandy your vagina is. So how WAS the surgery? You know, the one where the doctors removed your sense of humor.

[QUOTE=Mikhail;21164162]Easter is a biblical time. So why do Atheist celebrate easter? Does that not contradict the fact you don't believe in god?[/QUOTE] Hint: Easter isn't a Christian holiday. The rabbits and eggs should've been a dead giveaway to the un-Christianness of it's origin.

[QUOTE=Lankist;21171744]So sorry your messiah is basically a vampire. I'm also sorry about how sandy your vagina is.[/QUOTE] Zombie, not vampire. Telepathic zombie.

Well jesus is like a reverse vampire, only he also fellates demons out of people.

ITT: People think theism means to believe in a man that made the universe.

[QUOTE=nos217;21171799]ITT: People think theism means to believe in a man that made the universe.[/QUOTE] Theism: Specifically: belief in the existence of one God viewed as the creative source of the human race and the world who transcends yet is immanent in the world [url]http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/theism[/url]

[QUOTE=toxicweirdo;21171686]That's [b]REALLY[/b] offensive. Even if you don't believe in Jesus, have some respect for the holiday. You're not an anarchist, so stop trying to be one.[/QUOTE] Why? The meaning that you think it has has no meaning to me, or in the grand scheme of things. Why should someone respect something they don't believe in? It's idiotic.

[QUOTE=Lankist;21171794]Well jesus is like a reverse vampire, only he also fellates demons out of people.[/QUOTE] You got me there.

Yes, one "God". There is nothing to suggest that this "God" was human-like in any way. [editline]10:53PM[/editline] If you read Angels and Demons you might understand what I mean.

[QUOTE=nos217;21171858]Yes, one "God". There is nothing to suggest that this "God" was human-like in any way. [editline]10:53PM[/editline] If you read Angels and Demons you might understand what I mean.[/QUOTE] Because Angels and Demons is NOT, in fact, a fictional story. It is FACT.

[QUOTE=nos217;21171858]Yes, one "God". There is nothing to suggest that this "God" was human-like in any way.[/quote] Theism =/= one God. That is Monotheism. Theism is simply the belief in at least one God that has unlimited power whom was involved in the creation of Humanity and/or the world. [quote]If you read Angels and Demons you might understand what I mean.[/QUOTE] Dan Brown is not a theologist.

[QUOTE=Jenkem;21171771]Hint: Easter isn't a Christian holiday. The rabbits and eggs should've been a dead giveaway to the un-Christianness of it's origin.[/QUOTE] Holy shit you're stupid.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;21171846]Why? The meaning that you think it has has no meaning to me, or in the grand scheme of things. Why should someone respect something they don't believe in? It's idiotic.[/QUOTE] LOL WAT? So I shouldn't respect opposing political, religious, or personal viewpoints of others if I don't believe in what they say? You should respect others no matter what and not be a 12 year old about it and try to piss people off.

[QUOTE=Shrooms;21171998]Holy shit you're stupid.[/QUOTE] Easter, like Christmas, is an amalgamation of Christian and Pagan holidays.

[QUOTE=Lankist;21172042]Easter, like Christmas, is an amalgamation of Christian and Pagan holidays.[/QUOTE] This reminds me of a conversation I had with a Jehova's Witness (A friend of mine) recently. Apparently the reason Jehova's Witnesses do not celebrate holidays is because pretty much all of them are made from Pagan ones, that regular Christians took and modified to attract Pagans to their religion. I had always thought it was because celebrating showed pride or some shit like that.

[QUOTE=Lankist;21171816][b]Theism:[/b] Specifically: belief in the existence of [b]one God[/b] viewed as the creative source of the human race and the world who transcends yet is immanent in the world [url]http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/theism[/url][/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Lankist;21171925][b]Theism =/= one God.[/b] That is Monotheism. Theism is simply the belief in at least one God that has unlimited power whom was involved in the creation of Humanity and/or the world. Dan Brown is not a theologist.[/QUOTE] Contradicted yourself there. Whether Dan Brown was or was not a master of the field, the point still stands. You avoided my point by simply stating that he is not a master of the field. The point I am making is: "God" seems to be views as some sort of man-like person who judges all. "God" could well have simply been a particle that created the universe, it's only thoughts being that of boundaries, scales and values of the universe. Without any such thought (atheism), how can there possibly be such a definite, finite amount of mass and energy in the universe? What defined the amount that exists? And, where is the anti-matter to match the matter of our universe? These are the questions that particle physicists can't seem to answer, which is why many particle physicists are theist, but in the same sense as me. Although I am still sort of on the fence, wondering where the definitions of values of the universe came from. At the moment, the only plausible option is that of some kind of thought at the beginning of the universe, that thought being "God".

[QUOTE=nos217;21172455]Contradicted yourself there. Whether Dan Brown was or was not a master of the field, the point still stands. You avoided my point by simply stating that he is not a master of the field. The point I am making is: "God" seems to be views as some sort of man-like person who judges all. "God" could well have simply been a particle that created the universe, it's only thoughts being that of boundaries, scales and values of the universe. Without any such thought (atheism), how can there possibly be such a definite, finite amount of mass and energy in the universe? What defined the amount that exists? And, where is the anti-matter to match the matter of our universe? These are the questions that particle physicists can't seem to answer, which is why many particle physicists are theist, but in the same sense as me. Although I am still sort of on the fence, wondering where the definitions of values of the universe came from. At the moment, the only plausible option is that of some kind of thought at the beginning of the universe, that thought being "God".[/QUOTE] Holy fuck, Lankist contradicted himself. The end times are here!

My entire family, despite being southern, is pretty much Agnostic. My sister, cousin, and I are all Atheists though. We just use it as an excuse to get together as a family, have some food, and just catch up with each other. I sat outside with my cousin and dad for two hours discussing plans in the event of a zombie outbreak, what vehicles to get, weapons to take, where to hold out, that shit. We joked about the stupidest people in the family and funniest shit. I don't think God or Jesus were mentioned at all. No prayers were said, no Bible brought out (my Grandparents, where we have all family events at, actually hate the Bible and church, more-so because my grandmother was a librarian for about thirty years.) We joked around, had some ham and turkey, and just enjoyed ourselves. I got to see my eldest nephew for the first time in a month, and see my new nephew for the first time since he was born. [editline]05:22PM[/editline] [QUOTE=nos217;21172455]Without any such thought (atheism), how can there possibly be such a definite, finite amount of mass and energy in the universe? What defined the amount that exists? And, where is the anti-matter to match the matter of our universe?[/QUOTE] Are you saying that our existence had to be defined? Its random chance. Every bit of our existence is due to random chance and coincidence. We weren't defined in anyway, we just happened.

[QUOTE=Jimpy;21172025]LOL WAT? So I shouldn't respect opposing political, religious, or personal viewpoints of others if I don't believe in what they say? You should respect others no matter what and not be a 12 year old about it and try to piss people off.[/QUOTE] Wait, so I can't make jokes? Sorry, I'll refrain from making a joke about anything from now on because it'll offend someone. That's my point, a point you seem incapable of realizing. Do you respect those beliefs of a nazi, a communist, do you respect my beliefs? No. You're just offended that I am ok with jokes, insults, and whatever else can be said about any belief system. I'm fine with people making fun of mine.

[QUOTE=nos217;21172455]Contradicted yourself there. Whether Dan Brown was or was not a master of the field, the point still stands. You avoided my point by simply stating that he is not a master of the field. The point I am making is: "God" seems to be views as some sort of man-like person who judges all. "God" could well have simply been a particle that created the universe, it's only thoughts being that of boundaries, scales and values of the universe. Without any such thought (atheism), how can there possibly be such a definite, finite amount of mass and energy in the universe? What defined the amount that exists? And, where is the anti-matter to match the matter of our universe? These are the questions that particle physicists can't seem to answer, which is why many particle physicists are theist, but in the same sense as me. Although I am still sort of on the fence, wondering where the definitions of values of the universe came from. At the moment, the only plausible option is that of some kind of thought at the beginning of the universe, that thought being "God".[/QUOTE] You didn't read the full definition that I linked. ": belief in the existence of a god or gods" What I originally quoted was the qualification of what constituted Godhood. [editline]06:32PM[/editline] I am not going to acknowledge a pseudo-science bullshit paranormal argument penned by Dan Fucking Brown in a serious theological discussion. I expect the same amount of evidence for that kind of stupid fucking claim as I do the normal religious nutjob batshit fuckheads.

[QUOTE=Zeddy;21172541]Are you saying that our existence had to be defined? Its random chance. Every bit of our existence is due to random chance and coincidence. We weren't defined in anyway, we just happened.[/QUOTE] How can that even possibly be the case? There is no such thing as "Random".

[QUOTE=nos217;21173343]How can that even possibly be the case? There is no such thing as "Random".[/QUOTE] But there is procedure. Evolution is procedural. Natural selection is not random.

[QUOTE=Lankist;21172809]You didn't read the full definition that I linked. ": belief in the existence of a god or gods" What I originally quoted was the qualification of what constituted Godhood. [/quote] I'm not picking at this "one god" or "multiple gods" idea at all I was simply quoting. [QUOTE=Lankist;21172809]I am not going to acknowledge a pseudo-science bullshit paranormal argument penned by Dan Fucking Brown in a serious theological discussion. I expect the same amount of evidence for that kind of stupid fucking claim as I do the normal religious nutjob batshit fuckheads.[/QUOTE] It was just an example. All I was using it for is to say that it's the general idea that "God" could perhaps not have been as thoughtful or "omniscient" as religious people might think. I'm not religious by the way. [editline]11:59PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Lankist;21173380]But there is procedure. Evolution is procedural. Natural selection is not random.[/QUOTE] Then what preceded the beginning of the universe?

[QUOTE=nos217;21173435]Then what preceded the beginning of the universe?[/QUOTE] You assume something had to

[QUOTE=nos217;21173435] Then what preceded the beginning of the universe?[/QUOTE] No one knows that. I see so much people asking that, it's becoming tedious. NO ONE knows, we still don't know a lot about our universe. Hell, we know very little about it.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;21164189]Why do Christians celebrate Easter? [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%92ostre]It's a pagan holiday.[/url] :smug:[/QUOTE] [highlight]/thread[/highlight]

[QUOTE=KingKombat;21173554][highlight]/thread[/highlight][/QUOTE] He says, 5 pages later

Also, I can celebrate whatever the fuck I want. If I wanna celebrate Easter or Christmas then I will. I don't have to believe in it just so you're okay with me celebrating it. Just because we don't believe in actual religions doesn't mean we don't want to celebrate the badass holidays they have, it just means we think what you believe in is pretty flawed. Atheists own your shit. [editline]06:07PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Zeke129;21173627]He says, 5 pages later[/QUOTE] Should've been the end of it anyhow.

[QUOTE=nos217;21173435] Then what preceded the beginning of the universe?[/QUOTE] Nothing. There was no time, there was nothing. Time had not begun to exist yet, therefore nothing existed except a super condensed singularity. Nothing else had to exist.