Lolicon is child pornography, and if you masturbate to it, you are a pedophile.

[KrAzY_nikomo]

Fuck you guys this thread made me read the lolicon article on Wikipedia.
I won't sleep for half a week.

[TGX]

[QUOTE=Limezor]No, I just browse 4chan. Its hard to not-see things.[/QUOTE]
Keep telling yourself, you weirdo. Soon enough even you'll believe it.

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[QUOTE=KrAzY_nikomo]Fuck you guys this thread made me read the lolicon article on Wikipedia.
I won't sleep for half a week.[/QUOTE]
pansy

[Funcoot]

[QUOTE=Karmah]It has hand drawn (or computer rendered), thus it is not child pornography[/QUOTE]
It depicts children having sex... it is child pornography.

[larikang]

Hey I actually learned shit from this thread. My knee-jerk reaction was "loli is fucked up shit. You're a pedo for liking it and it should be illegal". But then I realized from reading everyone's opinions that pedophilia and child pornography are illegal for the sake of the children involved (who need to be protected).

The government cannot (and should not) have anything to do with people's personal thoughts and actions. Since loli doesn't involve actual children there are no grounds for it to be illegal. If you [i]did[/i] make it illegal it would have to be on the grounds that those who like it are committing some kind of "thought crime" by enjoying the idea of sex with little girls. You'd be on a slippery slope because the same arguments could be extended to other mediums like books, movies, and video games.

Loli is still fucked up though. You aren't a pedo for liking it, but you're a fucking weirdo.

And, alas, there will always be those people who are unable to draw the line between fantasy and reality and may go from fapping to loli to raping children, but that's the price we pay of having a free society. Just hope that our legal systems can deal with them before they cause serious harm.

[Technopath]

[QUOTE=teh folder]Lolicon = simulated Child pornography. If you get aroused to it you are, most likely, a pedophile. Deal with it and stop making lame excuses. I saw [b]no[/b] good excuses in this thread.
[img]http://pysih.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/chris-hanson-nice-to-see-you.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]

I'm tired of your logic people, although I don't approve of lolicon/child pornography your logic is flawed:

Lolicon depicts possible children having sex in a drawing.
My point being:
1. There's no way to prove the girl/boy in the drawing is actually a child, people might as well argue it's a pretty midget with tits...
2. There are no [b]real[/b] children (or anyone really) involved since it's just a drawing.

Sure, some people who look at it might be actual pedophiles BUT they are not criminals until they go out and actually rape or hurt any real child, and since you cannot prove the future and have 100% certainty that they will, you cannot judge and punish them until they actually do it, if they actually do it.

Don't take my opinion the wrong way, I'm not on anybodys side, just being the Devils advocate.

Also, using a meme/image macro that most likely originates from 4chan, which is a place where a lot of those people go... didn't help making your point.

[sp00ks]

[QUOTE=Funcoot]It depicts children having sex... it is child pornography.[/QUOTE]
and a picture of a guy killing another guy is also murder.

[Trapper]

[QUOTE=sp00ks]and a picture of a guy killing another guy is also murder.[/QUOTE]
Thread over

[Luke-NAESA®]

They can't control anyone. Hi.

[Killuah]

ITT: People try to justify their sick desires.

Jeez, you still have fantasies about fucking children when you fap to loli.

Sick bastards.

[BricknHead]

[QUOTE=samclarke.1990]
You may not carry out the acts but you're still in the frame of mind that the sexualisation of CHILDREN is perfectly OK, which it is not.
[/QUOTE]

Have you ever even talked to one of these people? I know a pedophile on steam who's openly into lolicon, but he doesn't think "it's all right". [url=http://forums.facepunchstudios.com/showpost.php?p=12129870&postcount=312]The thought of raping an actual child disgusts him.[/url]

[QUOTE=samclarke.1990]I have a feeling that the people who are trying to justify viewing this material are the kind of people who also look at it.[/QUOTE]

Hi I fight for black rights that automatically makes me a black man :downs:

[Dead-Inside]

[i]I'd like to add another thing to the narrowminded people[/i]:
If someone told you that you weren't allowed to have sex with women, nor keep any of your pornography or even draw it, how would you feel? What if everyone regarded your norms as deviating, wrong and disgusting? It's bad enough you HAVE to strip away step one and two from pedophiles but stripping away step three makes no sense at all.

In a somewhat related topic I am of the opinion that beastiality should be legal. It is here in Sweden as long as you don't cross the law against animal cruelty and yet somehow people feel the need to lobby for banning it for no apparent reason. If the animal is harmed it's already illegal so why do you need to ban it altogether? All you're doing is robbing people of their needs.

[Mr. Bix]

I'm not going to justify myself to this asshole (OP). Loli Watersports are fucking awesome.

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[sp00ks]

[QUOTE=noobcake]I'm not going to justify myself to this asshole (OP). Loli Watersports are fucking awesome.

[/thread][/QUOTE]
:tinfoil:
what's watersports?

[trey_awsome]

[QUOTE=These Nuts]
16 is the the age of consent in michigan. so you aren't a pedo in michigan, but beware when you step out of the lines of my state as you will be charged for rape.[/QUOTE]
I live in Illinois, I'm 15, and my girlfriend and I....

damnit.

[helpful man]

[QUOTE=Wallettheif]I banged my girlfriend yesterday, and she's 16. Does that make me a pedo? Your logic sucks.[/QUOTE]
No, because puberty starts at 12.

[xzeox]

[QUOTE=sp00ks]:tinfoil:
what's watersports?[/QUOTE]
If you are asking what it is, I'm pretty sure you are in the realm of 'you don't want to know.'

[sp00ks]

[QUOTE=xzeox]If you are asking what it is, I'm pretty sure you are in the realm of 'you don't want to know.'[/QUOTE]
True.

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[QUOTE=helpful man]No, because puberty starts at 12.[/QUOTE]
:rolleye:

[BricknHead]

[QUOTE=noobcake]I'm not going to justify myself to this asshole (OP). Loli Watersports are fucking awesome.

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Aren't you the kid that's like 12?

A 12 year old lolikon? And watersports fetish?

Jesus Christ the internet scares me

[FoodStuffs]

[QUOTE=Kombayn]Let me preface this with a a little motivation behind this rant of mine. First off, this issue has not always been the problem it has been with me. No, I do not mean I once considered lolicon to separate from child pornography, nor does it mean I once considered those who masturbate to it to not be pedophiles. What I mean is that my need to say this has not been so strong before. See, I have seen people around here assume that simply because they were not at a certain age, they weren't pedophiles, even some more audaciously thought that the genre didn't even qualify as child pornography! Only recently, after stumbling into the posts of a certain part of the internet did I finally become enraged enough to complain.

First off, lolicon is child pornography. Now why do people debate this? I have no fucking clue, maybe they think that because it's drawn, it doesn't count. How does it not? It's the same body proportions in the same sexual situations, meant to illicit the same sexual attraction from whatever demographic they are aiming for. In effect and imagery, it's the exact same thing expect one uses a pencil and one uses a camera and a total disregard for moral responsibility.

Now some people still feel relatively secure in their belief they are not pedophiles, hell, they might be fifteen and they can pull out the "I'M NOT 18, I'M NOT A PEDO" argument. BULL SHIT. ALL OF IT. Let's go backwards a bit and start at square one of this issue.

What makes the conventional "attractive woman"? Well, two of the more prevalent features are a well-endowed chest area and wide hips. There are also all of those other things that some people consider, such as their own definition of an attractive face, which is beyond my realm of explanation. But referring back to the first statement, there are reasons that these are so. Large breasts (and you know I don't mean grotesquely, inhumanly large breasts), means that there is an ample supply of milk for a baby to feed on, meaning that a baby wouldn't starve. Then there are wide hips. Wide hips make it easier for a baby to develop and be delivered, there is function behind all of that. Sexual attraction to this by pubescent teenagers revolves around the same biological decisions as it does for a full-grown adult.

It would be foolish to think that simply because you haven't met some retarded legal age limit, you are not a pedophile, you experience a sexual attraction for the same reasons pedophiles above that certain age limit feel a similar attraction.

For those of you who actually believe that you aren't pedophiles despite the fact that masturbate to lolicon, quit deceiving yourselves, it's pissing me off.[/QUOTE]

I'm no pedophile.

[AgoatV2]

[QUOTE=pyrofiliac]i thought lolicons were goth chicks that dressed up like wierd gothic maids and wished they were japanese[/QUOTE]
those are weaboos silly

[MattxMosh]

If you think drawings of naked children are attractive, you are fucked up.

And it is child pornography.

[quote]
(8) “child pornography” means any visual depiction, including any photograph, film, video, picture, or computer or computer-generated image or picture, whether made or produced by electronic, mechanical, or other means, of sexually explicit conduct, where—
(A) the production of such visual depiction involves the use of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct;
(B) such visual depiction is a digital image, computer image, or computer-generated image that is, or is indistinguishable from, that of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; or
(C) such visual depiction has been created, adapted, or modified to appear that an identifiable minor is engaging in sexually explicit conduct.
[/quote]

[url]http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00002256----000-.html[/url]

Idiots.

[sp00ks]

snipsszzszczszc

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[QUOTE=MattxMosh]If you think drawings of naked children are attractive, you are fucked up.

And it is child pornography.

[url]http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00002256----000-.html[/url]

Idiots.[/QUOTE]
different countries different laws.

[Rarry]

My 12 year old brother wanks to lolicon...

So I guess that makes him a pedophile

And people in GOW2 are going to shove a chainsaw into people they don't like

:downs:

[MattxMosh]

[QUOTE=sp00ks]snipsszzszczszc

[b]Edit:[/b]

different countries different laws.[/QUOTE]

You mean the USA isn't the police of the world?

I've been lied too.

[KillerTV]

For the record I don't look at lolicon, I find it repulsive, even the thought of it.

However, I find it brilliant that the same people who denounce links between violent video games and violence can come and say that all lolicons are paedophiles.

Gotta love them double standards.

[Cheesemonkey]

[QUOTE=AgoatV2]those are weaboos silly[/QUOTE]

No, gothic lolita. As opposed to lolita complex(lolicon)

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Also pedophilia is underaged, pre-pubescent girls, and Ebepophile(fuck it i don't know what it's called) is underages, post-pubescent girls.

I can fap to lolicon all I want ant not be a pedo, I'd just be an epebo. And i wouldn't because I'm 15 in the first place.

[Revo]

A roving band of lolis must have like kicked down the OPs door and shot his dog to have such a personal vendetta against people looking at drawings.

[BricknHead]

[QUOTE=MattxMosh]If you think drawings of naked children are attractive, you are fucked up.

And it is child pornography.

[url]http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00002256----000-.html[/url]

Idiots.[/QUOTE]

wasn't that found unconstitutional in late o7?

If not it should be, it's a fucking drawing

Seriously, come on people. Forget the fact that many find it sick and disturbing.

[B]It's a fucking drawing.[/B]

Don't you realize how pathetic that is?

[Splarg]

Child pornography is wrong because it involves exploiting children. There's no victim when someone makes a drawing.

[kloaz]

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