• Lolicon is child pornography, and if you masturbate to it, you are a pedophile.
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[QUOTE=aman II]Even if it is just retarded drawing done by a lonely Japanese man, how is jacking off to drawn child pictures normal? It's fucking weird. If anyone "came out of the closet" and told people they liked lolicon, they would be shunned.[/QUOTE] That's simply misunderstanding. People don't understand it so they just brandish it wrong. [b]Edit:[/b] [QUOTE=chris0132]Well that's kind of the point, everyone has a fetish, lots of people have really weird fetishes, so I tend to assume that fetishes are normal. It's like saying that having a particular hairstyle is abnormal, it's different yes but it's not unexpected, everyone has a hairstyle.[/QUOTE] That's what i said, just clarifying it. With the amount of information we have at our fingertips, everyone's going to end up finding every little thing that pleases them alot faster than normal. It's why you have 12 year olds with preferences for feet or bestiality. fetishes themselves aren't uncommon, but the actual preference itself is the abnormal part.
My belief? Well, lemme line it out in a little diagram. How old you are --- The youngest the girl can be... You---Girl 13 --- 13 14 --- 14 15 --- 14 16 --- 14 17 --- 15 18 --- 15 19 --- 16 20 --- 16 21+--- 18 You're like 18 but still looking at 9 and 10 yearolds in the comics? Yeah, you should reconsider before you become a pedophile. If you do? Then don't tell anybody... Weirdo...
[QUOTE=aman II]Even if it is just retarded drawing done by a lonely Japanese man, how is jacking off to drawn child pictures normal? It's fucking weird. If anyone "came out of the closet" and told people they liked lolicon, they would be shunned.[/QUOTE] I beg to differ, almost everyone I know knows that I like loli, they also know that I'm not into real little girls either though. Idiots like you don't realize how the brain works and interprets things, so until you figure that out shut the hell up and stop talking through your ass you bandwagon ninny.
Living vicariously through the eyes of a pedophile... wonderful...
[QUOTE=shaunboy]Any person that faps to loli is a potential pedophile[/QUOTE] Meh, Lolicon is fine with me. One of my female friends look like a loli(in the aspects of short and loli chest), she's so damn cute too. [b]Edit:[/b] Also that logic would mean abused children are all potential pedophiles. Potential to be a pedophile is in EVERY FUCKING PERSON and that applies to everyone's Potential to commit suicide. It's the chances of ACTUALLY BEING A FUCKING PEDOPHILE. [b]Edit:[/b] [img]http://media.steampowered.com/steamcommunity/public/images/avatars/89/8921f9f60de4f068d7230eb76177779001002049_full.jpg[/img] ~Nipa!
So if i draw an anime pic of me murdering someone, then i should go to jail?
[QUOTE=Fps_Deffy]So if i draw an anime pic of me murdering someone, then i should go to jail?[/QUOTE] Yes you filthy bastard.
[QUOTE=ChronoPhobia]... a fetish is an abnormal sexual infatuation/whatever. it's defined by it's abnormality. If you're saying that people having fetishes in general is normal, with today's society we live in, you're absolutely right.[/QUOTE] It is nature to feel sexually attracted to breasts/lips/whatever it is still a fetish. It's pretty much the same than being attracted by a woman. How the fuck it is abnormal? It's an instintive thing. There is nothing more natural than an Instinct. I've had a vore fetish since I was 6 years old. Along with some crazy stuff. I was the most innocent child you would ever meet.
So if you kill people in video games you're a psychopath? Regardless of the fact they aren't real people? Your logic fails.
This entire THREAD fails
[QUOTE=TiE23]My belief? Well, lemme line it out in a little diagram. How old you are --- The youngest the girl can be... You---Girl 13 --- 13 14 --- 14 15 --- 14 16 --- 14 17 --- 15 18 --- 15 19 --- 16 20 --- 16 21+--- 18 You're like 18 but still looking at 9 and 10 yearolds in the comics? Yeah, you should reconsider before you become a pedophile. If you do? Then don't tell anybody... Weirdo...[/QUOTE] I don't know whats worse. That this is describing me to well on the age 15 thing or that the OP won't respect people's opinions.
[QUOTE=darkrei9n]I don't know whats worse. That this is describing me to well on the age 15 thing or that the [B]OP won't respect people's opinions[/B].[/QUOTE] Cleared that up for ya.
I'm not the best person to settle a dispute, but I'll give it a shot. On one hand, we have people who [b]do[/b] think Lolicon is CP. And on the other, we have people who [b]don't[/b] think Lolicon is CP. Let's juggle these around for a bit. First, what are they both? Child Pornography, as described by Wikipedia is: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_pornography[/url] [quote=Wiki]Child pornography (or "CP") refers to material depicting children being in a state of undress, engaged in erotic poses or sexual activity.Child sexual abuse occurs in the production of child pornography when sexual acts are photographed, and the effects of the abuse on the child (and continuing into maturity) are compounded by the wide distribution and lasting availability of the photographs of the abuse.In both common usage[citation needed] and for research purposes, the word "child" in the phrase "child pornography" refers to prepubescent children, and does not refer to post-puberty teenagers. For practical reasons, legal definitions of child pornography generally refer to a wider age range, including any pornography involving a minor, according to jurisdiction. Most possessors of child pornography who are arrested are found to possess images of prepubescent children; possessors of pornographic images of post-puberty minors are less likely to be prosecuted, even though those images also fall within the statutes.[/quote] And Lolicon, as described by Wikipedia is: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon[/url] [quote=Wiki]Lolicon (ロリコン?), also romanized as rorikon, is a slang portmanteau of the phrase "Lolita complex". In Japan, the term describes an attraction to young girls, or an individual with such an attraction. Outside Japan, the term is less common and most often refers to a genre of manga and anime wherein childlike female characters are depicted in a suggestive manner. The phrase is a reference to Vladimir Nabokov's book, Lolita, in which a middle-aged man becomes sexually obsessed with a 12-year-old girl. The equivalent term for attraction to (or art pertaining to erotic portrayal of) young boys is shotacon.[/quote] Also see [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon#Controversy]Lolicon: Controversy[/url] [quote=Wiki]Laws have been enacted to criminalize "obscene images of children, no matter how they are made," for inciting abuse. An argument is that obscene fictional images portray children as sex objects, thereby contributing to child sexual abuse. This argument has been disputed by the claim that there is no scientific basis for that connection, and that restricting sexual expression in drawings or animated games and videos might actually increase the rate of sexual crime by eliminating a harmless outlet for desires that could motivate crime. This is exemplified in a case involving a man, from Virginia who, while arrested after viewing lolicon at a public library, asserted that he had quit collecting real child pornography and switched to lolicon.[/quote] We already know that child pornography is illegal in a majority of countries, and that sexual acts with children under the age of consent is illegal and considered child sexual abuse. What we don't know is whether or not Lolicon can be called child pornography. Canadian Law(I'm Canadian so I'll go with this) Considers lolicon as: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon#Canada[/url] [quote=Wiki]Canada Canadian laws addressing this are included in the C-46 amended Canadian Criminal Code passed in 1985. It is described under Part V: Sexual Offences, Public Morals and Disordery Conduct: Offences Tending to Corrupt Morals. Section 163.1 defines child pornography to include "a visual representation, whether or not it was made by electronic or mechanical means", that "shows a person who is or is depicted as being under the age of eighteen years and is engaged in or is depicted as engaged in explicit sexual activity", or "the dominant characteristic of which is the depiction, for a sexual purpose, of a sexual organ or the anal region of a person under the age of eighteen years." The definitive Supreme Court of Canada decision, R. v. Sharpe, interprets the statute to include purely fictional material even when no real children were involved in its production. Chief Justice Beverley McLachlin wrote, Interpreting "person" in accordance with Parliament's purpose of criminalizing possession of material that poses a reasoned risk of harm to children, it seems that it should include visual works of the imagination as well as depictions of actual people. Notwithstanding the fact that 'person' in the charging section and in s. 163.1(1)(b) refers to a flesh-and-blood person, I conclude that "person" in s. 163.1(1)(a) includes both actual and imaginary human beings. —Supreme Court of Canada, R. v. Sharpe, Paragraph 38 In October 2005, Canadian courts arrested a 26 year old Edmonton, Alberta man named Gordon Tshun Chin for importing Japanese magazines (manga) depicting explicit child sexuality. Chin's attorney Darcy Depoe claimed Chin did not know it was illegal, that he was naive. Despite this, Chin was sentenced by Judge David Tilley to an eighteen-month conditional sentence, during which he was barred from using the Internet. He was also required to perform 100 hours of community service and receive counseling. This is the first known manga-related child pornography case in Canada. It is also the first known that exclusively prosecutes this offense, not used in conjunction with other laws to increase sentencing. In April 2006, a 21 year old American man from Long Island, New York named Dominic Sousa was sentenced to 30 days in jail for bringing child pornography to Yarmouth, Canada. While he had possession of three videos and three images of real children, a criminal investigator cited the 13,000 "mostly cartoon" or "anime" images in his possession and the "prohibitive nature of these goods". The current minimum penalty for possession of, or "accessing," child pornography is fourteen days imprisonment. The current law criminalizes possession of purely fictional material and has been applied in the absence of any images of real children, including to possession of fictional stories with no pictures at all, or vice versa, cartoon pictures without any stories.[/quote] Basically meaning it corrupts morals because it's morally incorrect. If you'd like to see your own country's stance on it, Wikipedia has 8 other countries it discusses. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon#Legal_issues_elsewhere[/url] If you read all of that, Good work! I can't say anything for anyone else, but based on the information, I've gained, Lolicon isn't considered child pornography, but can be considered a gateway, leading to child pornography later on. It can be considered as corruption of moral beliefs, and is outlawed in many countried because of that. I'm perfectly fine with it though.
[QUOTE=Wulfin]So a 15 year old boy who wants to see a 16 year old girl naked is a pedo. That's fucking retarded.[/QUOTE] ... Do you know what Lolicon is? Whether the drawn girls are 5 or 20, the look like undeveloped [b]children[/b]. I think alot of you guys fail to miss the point. In definition Lolicon isn't child pornography. But if you get aroused by such drawings, something is [b]wrong[/b]. You are attracted to children. Therefore you are having pedophilic sexual preferences at that point.
[QUOTE=Rickzzz]... Do you know what Lolicon is? Whether the drawn girls are 5 or 20, the look like undeveloped [b]children[/b]. I think alot of you guys fail to miss the point. In definition Lolicon isn't child pornography. But if you get aroused by such drawings, something is [b]wrong[/b]. You are attracted to children. Therefore you are having pedophilic sexual preferences at that point.[/QUOTE] Okay I want you to do something, take a good long look at a normal loli image, now find a normal picture of a child, just a normal kid, notice how fucking [b]different[/b] they look? Loli drawings are usually made to arouse, there is a very, very, very fine line between being attracted to a real child and getting turned on by lolicon.
[QUOTE=newbz]It's because it's an act involving small children. People would say the same thing if it was a act of violence involving a child. Don't try to pull this "double standards" shit on me. Shut the fuck up, all of you. Call me old fashioned, but people who don't have a certain level of gentlemanly respect for women and children are nothing but [b]disgusting[/b] animals.[/QUOTE] I have respect for [b]REAL[/b] women. But if some chick in fallout 3 tells me off i'm going to call her a whore and blow her tits off. Am i a bad person? no.
[img]http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4229/121903963869nr5.jpg[/img] Hmm? [b]Edit:[/b] Is that loli?
[QUOTE=jlbmw2002][img]http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4229/121903963869nr5.jpg[/img] Hmm? [b]Edit:[/b] Is that loli?[/QUOTE] No, it's a pretty good portrait though. me likey.
[QUOTE=These Nuts] 16 is the the age of consent in michigan. so you aren't a pedo in michigan, but beware when you step out of the lines of my state as you will be charged for rape.[/QUOTE] one more year and he's legal in texas. wait... *takes girlfriend to michigan*
Would someone give me a summary of what was said in those 10 pages that appeared in less than a day?
[QUOTE=Nikita_98]Would someone give me a summary of what was said in those 10 pages that appeared in less than a day?[/QUOTE] You're all paedos and should kill yourselves
[QUOTE=Nikita_98]Would someone give me a summary of what was said in those 10 pages that appeared in less than a day?[/QUOTE] No. Read it yourself or stop paying attention to this failure of a thread.
Your not a paedophile if your the same age as the drawings your looking at then your just a ordinary person, who likes hentai. *cough*
[QUOTE=Wulfin]So a 15 year old boy who wants to see a 16 year old girl naked is a pedo. That's fucking retarded.[/QUOTE] Then I'm a pedo for not being attracted to people above the legit age. (18) That's okay with me. :ahaw:
Also porn is just for faggots who cannot get a girl and who are desperate, get a Girlfriend! [b][highlight](User was banned for this post (Reason: Flaming) [event] 141759 [/event])[/highlight][/b]
If girls get with girls, then who will the boys date? Dogs, Man's Best Friend? Why would you want to ruin that relationship?
In spite of you, I'm going to go fap to some loli.
[QUOTE=jlbmw2002][img]http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4229/121903963869nr5.jpg[/img] Hmm? [b]Edit:[/b] Is that loli?[/QUOTE] That doesn't look like any character I've seen in a manga either there's a gothic-lolita in Godchild (good series) and the styles are completely different however I haven't read too many, just Trigun (no children), Hayate the Combat Butler (ojo-sama), and Godchild
[QUOTE=sp00ks]snipsszzszczszc [b]Edit:[/b] different countries different laws.[/QUOTE] The legal age of consent in Spain is 13, so legally a 40 year old man could have sex with a 13 year old, it's not against the law but it doesn't mean it's right!
[QUOTE=septka]why would anyone want to see hentai, or even anime to begin with?[/QUOTE] Agree x1000 (list)
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