• Lolicon is child pornography, and if you masturbate to it, you are a pedophile.
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[QUOTE=chris0132]No, they are just unwilling to come to a decision. If you go into it with the goal of making a decision then you will find it very easy to assess the benefits and problems and to make one, but people don't. They think that if they don't make a decision it will sort itself out. The decision is not complicated and does not require much thought, there are not many variables to take into account, they are simply unwilling to commmit. The decision is not difficult, they are simply unwilling to make it, it is weakness of mind and nothing more. Have you not paid any attention to people? When someone asks you for advice you know they don't actually want you to give them advice, they just want someone to be there while they talk to themselves. They will explain the situation to you and then arrive at the decision they had already made before they came but didn't want to think about. They come to you because they want someone to oblige them into finalising their decision. Life decisions are not difficult to make, life decisions are difficult to adhere to. Let's say your grandmother wants euthanasia because she's terminally ill. You already know how she feels about it, and you feel about it, and you already know the best course of action, you just don't want to commit to it because if you do that will mean you take responsibility, and you become a murderer/someone who promotes suffering.[/QUOTE] Well i'm basing what i've said on ACTUAL things i've seen and heard. Also stuff I heard from a Real Doctor. But whatever. People are different who knew? So back on topic perhaps. Also I'm to tired to get into a deep Convo about stuff.
I love when people cop out because they've finally realized they're bad and wrong but they don't have the courage to say it.
[QUOTE=LeonSKennedy]I love when people cop out because they've finally realized they're bad and wrong but they don't have the courage to say it.[/QUOTE] What? I hope you aren't talking about me young man.
[QUOTE=chris0132]No, they are just unwilling to come to a decision. If you go into it with the goal of making a decision then you will find it very easy to assess the benefits and problems and to make one, but people don't. They think that if they don't make a decision it will sort itself out. The decision is not complicated and does not require much thought, there are not many variables to take into account, they are simply unwilling to commmit. The decision is not difficult, they are simply unwilling to make it, it is weakness of mind and nothing more. Have you not paid any attention to people? When someone asks you for advice you know they don't actually want you to give them advice, they just want someone to be there while they talk to themselves. They will explain the situation to you and then arrive at the decision they had already made before they came but didn't want to think about. They come to you because they want someone to oblige them into finalising their decision. Life decisions are not difficult to make, life decisions are difficult to adhere to. Let's say your grandmother wants euthanasia because she's terminally ill. You already know how she feels about it, and you feel about it, and you already know the best course of action, you just don't want to commit to it because if you do that will mean you take responsibility, and you become a murderer/someone who promotes suffering.[/QUOTE] Holy shit, chris, I think you are the only person who truly thinks like me. And here I've been calling you insane.
Loli is legal in Japan, but what weird shit isn't?
[QUOTE=noobcake]Yay someone knows who I am! :specialschool:[/QUOTE] Don't worry I love you It's just strange how well the internet can corrupt us all Among my first experiences on the net was meatspin fucking [b]yay[/b] [b]Edit:[/b] [QUOTE=chris0132]No, they are just unwilling to come to a decision. If you go into it with the goal of making a decision then you will find it very easy to assess the benefits and problems and to make one, but people don't. They think that if they don't make a decision it will sort itself out. The decision is not complicated and does not require much thought, there are not many variables to take into account, they are simply unwilling to commmit. The decision is not difficult, they are simply unwilling to make it, it is weakness of mind and nothing more. Have you not paid any attention to people? When someone asks you for advice you know they don't actually want you to give them advice, they just want someone to be there while they talk to themselves. They will explain the situation to you and then arrive at the decision they had already made before they came but didn't want to think about. They come to you because they want someone to oblige them into finalising their decision. Life decisions are not difficult to make, life decisions are difficult to adhere to. Let's say your grandmother wants euthanasia because she's terminally ill. You already know how she feels about it, and you feel about it, and you already know the best course of action, you just don't want to commit to it because if you do that will mean you take responsibility, and you become a murderer/someone who promotes suffering.[/QUOTE] christ0132 4 prez why the hell were you de-modded anyway
I couldn't give the slightest fuck if I'm a pedophile for masturbating to lolicon. [b]Edit:[/b] And besides I'm not a *sexual so I'm not going to harm anyone now am I?
I am a pedophile. Not those fucked up ones who abuse/molest/rape/etc. children. I just like guys/girls younger than me. And anyone who thinks it is a disease or can be "cured" must think the same about being gay too then. So whatever, I know I won't hurt anyone, but if people wanna criticize me, go ahead :v: Well actually I'm a hebephile/ephebephile. Someone who likes guys/girls in/just after puberty. Children is a little far.
[QUOTE=iHax]I am a pedophile. Not those fucked up ones who abuse/molest/rape/etc. children. I just like guys/girls younger than me. And anyone who thinks it is a disease or can be "cured" must think the same about being gay too then. So whatever, I know I won't hurt anyone, but if people wanna criticize me, go ahead :v: Well actually I'm a hebephile/ephebephile. Someone who likes guys/girls in/just after puberty. Children is a little far.[/QUOTE] brave man for admitting it [b]Edit:[/b] bwahahah poor [url=http://forums.facepunchstudios.com/member.php?u=59465]cheesemonkey[/url]
Brave or stupid? In before FBI :v:
[QUOTE=SeymourGuado]What? I hope you aren't talking about me young man.[/QUOTE] Yes, I was talking about you. Being less than one year younger than you don't make me a young man, douche.
[QUOTE=BricknHead]brave man for admitting it [b]Edit:[/b] bwahahah poor [url=http://forums.facepunchstudios.com/member.php?u=59465]cheesemonkey[/url][/QUOTE] haha, why'd they go and do that?
[QUOTE=DesertRaptor] [IMG]http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm292/rapturered/higurashi-no-naku-koro-ni-kai-01-1.jpg[/IMG] [/QUOTE] I'd hit it.
[QUOTE=TrashMaster1]Why the hell would anyone want to see that?[/QUOTE] Because everyone has somekind of fuckedup fetish. If you want more information about this topic please go to following forum: [url]http://forums.facepunchstudios.com/forumdisplay.php?f=56[/url]
Lolicons should not be seen by anyone because it plants the seeds of a potential pedophile.
[QUOTE=PudgyFistPro]Lolicons should not be seen by anyone because it plants the seeds of a potential pedophile.[/QUOTE] I see your gateway arguement hiding in there. And the gateway arguement can be used against everything.
Pedophilia isn't really a choice for some people, like homosexuality or heterosexuality. And it's a lot better to draw pictures of this sort of thing than kidnapping little girls, forcing them to have sex with you, and then killing them.
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta]I see your gateway arguement hiding in there. And the gateway arguement can be used against everything.[/QUOTE] Well.. possibly for everything, but if it is used for many topics, such as drugs, drinking, abuse, then it can still be possible to be used for pedos. I guess it's better to watch drawn pictures *thank you guy who is under the person i'm quoting*. You're right in saying I was kind of implying that one thing leads to another.
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta]I see your gateway arguement hiding in there. And the gateway arguement can be used against everything.[/QUOTE] Janus Vesta, you couldn't be more wrong! Pudgy has come across a whole new world of realization for me. [QUOTE=PudgyFistPro]Lolicons should not be seen by anyone because it plants the seeds of a potential pedophile.[/QUOTE] This explains everything, the whole world is corrupt. Humans are unfit to see, for it leads to the entire human race being detroyed. Think about it, since we can see, we can witness death, since we can witness death, it plants the [i]seed[/i] of murderous intent. Because of that murderous intent more death is caused. This never ending cycle spells our doom! Moral: Every human should be blinded at birth! Protect the human race! [/satire] This debate is going to go nowhere, and the arguments on both sides are breaking down quite quickly (I think this thread is a textbook for logical/argumentative fallacies). This is an inner-value argument, dealing with peoples nature, social morals, and inner beliefs. There is NO WAY that anything anyone here says will change the opposing side's beliefs. This argument will have the exact result of a religious "debate" (I use the term lightly as there is never a proper argument when on the internet). [b]How this will end:[/b] Plenty of people pissed off and more entrenched in their ideals. If it must continue please, use proper evidence and spend more than 10 seconds on developing an argument for/against -for example: ([b][i]ALL OF THIS IS MADE UP[/i][/b] - just because I can feel the rage of countless calling me a liar) Are pedo: (double plus good) Show a statistic that known pedophiles looked/watched loli before "coming out of the closet" so to speak. Are pedo: (double plus un-good) It is sick (For this one, it may or may not pertain to the real issue: Is this a debate over the legality or the direct kids thing or the moral (society)? I assume you are debating if it should be banned for X/Y reason) Not pedo: ([/1984] good) Show a statistic that most known pedophiles had little/no interest in loli before the closed was exited. Not pedo: (bad) I am not a pedo and I look at loli! Are pedo: (good) Countries that have loli banned have less underage issues. (Canada/US would be good comparison - close proximity/similar culture) Are pedo: (bad) Society frowns on it! Not pedo: (good) Countries that have loli readily available have fewer underage issues. Not pedo: (bad) Your all biased! [b]So please, I beg of you,[/b] argue with yourself a little before posting. If you find your idea disproved very easily then it has probably been said before (just as poorly). However, I would like to thank chris, for having some interesting philosophical topics, and all those who have made a good effort to make valid points. [b]My two cents:[/b] Banning loli is like trying to ban an idea. We all "know" that violent video games have very little effect on the level of violence in kids, or they share the same level of influence as movies. Movies and video games are legal because people, en masse, enjoy them despite the often violent elements presence. Now, the heart of the issue is in our belief that we are unaffected by the external stimuli of movies/games/porn/ect. In truth, every one is effected to some degree by everything that happens to them, what they hear, see, or experience. It is called experience because we gain something out of it, be it good or bad. My point is we do not ban these things (in most cases) because the number of people who act (violently or otherwise in a negative/harmful manner) on those experiences (movies/video games/ect) are small (relatively). My other belief is I think most people here disagree with the idea of banning everything that [i]could[/i] cause harm e.g. games, guns, beer, weed, movies, baseball bats, free speech, free press, and free religion. All of those things have indirectly (or directly) caused harm. Free speech sets off riots from time to time; when it does, the police stop it as best they can. Religion has killed more people than anything, [b]ever[/b]. I can't stand West Burough Baptist Church, but hell would freeze over before I agree on any law that should be passed to silence them. You're a natzi? Go visit Skokie again, I'll agree with the 1978 decision. Regardless of how offensive, and how much it [i]may[/i] harm anyone; nothing should be censored, banned, or too (whole other bag of worms) strictly regulated without [b]absolute[/b] proof of [b]nearly universal[/b] (severely, e.g. child stuff) negative impact. [/rant]
Like it or not, Lolicon is protected by the freedom of speech in America. Get out if you don't like it, please, then we can actually get some shit done instead of counting your useless votes all the time.
[QUOTE=chris0132]Yes it's child pornography, and it's pedophillia to be attracted to it. But as it doesn't actually harm any children, I fail to see the issue with it. If people control their urges and don't do anything that actually harms people I cannot in good conscience punish them for it.[/QUOTE] That would be a really odd urge to have if you like 20, but if you're 15 and want to have sex with another 15 year old girl/boy (what ever you're into) I don't see anything wrong with that. Just dig people that are around your age.
[QUOTE=PudgyFistPro]Lolicons should not be seen by anyone because it plants the seeds of a potential pedophile.[/QUOTE] Well, my future is sure to be fucked up... Hmmm...
[QUOTE=amute]I'd hit it.[/QUOTE] crows beat you to it.
Lolicon is legal in Norway.
While it may not be as bad as watching the real thing, you might still be getting that boner because of the fact that it's a child. Meaning of course that you're somewhat of a pedophile who has decided to settle with the legal version of child pornography.
EVERYONE LOVES RIKA, AND DOES NOT FAP OVER HER :( I'm looking at you Raptor :argh: [b]Edit:[/b] [img]http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/consumerist/2008/12/notsexy.jpg[/img] [b]Edit:[/b] [url]http://consumerist.com/5101280/no-tween-girl-clothes-are-sexy[/url]
LOL!
[QUOTE=bearwrestler]hentai and shit like that is for faggots [b][highlight](User was banned for this post (Reason: Homophobia) [event] 140949 [/event])[/highlight][/b][/QUOTE] Never knew that was against the rules...
You learn something new every day I guess.
Well in that case... HERE I COME KIDDIES :q:
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