Lolicon is child pornography, and if you masturbate to it, you are a pedophile.
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[QUOTE=TechedRonan]Masturbating to an image of a child, real or not, is wrong. [b]Never, EVER think that you're doing something that's not wrong when doing it.[/b][/QUOTE]
Yeah, kids, so don't masturbate! Your eyes will go bad!
[QUOTE=FN57]Except that animals don't have a human figure and aren't bipedal.
Lolicon on the other hand directly mimics child porn. How can you not see something wrong with that? You're becoming sexually attracted to children.[/QUOTE]
And yet, I'm not!
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1]ITT: Arguments no one wants to apply elsewhere.
Fapping to loli makes you a pedo! This logic, however, does not apply to violent video games making you a mass murderer.[/QUOTE]
I disagree.
Even though it is only drawn, it's still pornographic, and it takes advantage of pedophilia to strengthen the image's appeal. If it's is completely dependant on if it involves children. It appeals to pedos.
However, Video Games aren't designed to stimulate the part ofthe mind that enjoys killing, it just uses killing in a way that would be fun. It's NOT dependant on if it's violent or not. They appeal to anyone, not just mass murderers.
You could make a game completely nonviolent yet it would still be a video game. Removing the child from the lolicon would turn it into normal porn, not lolicon.
[QUOTE=RotatingPear]Yeah, kids, so don't masturbate! Your eyes will go bad![/QUOTE]
My eyes were bad before I even hit puberty. :downs:
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1]Child porn in what sense? It is pornography involving children, but is not harmful like pornography involving [I]actual[/I] children is.[/QUOTE]
Well, it's barely even child porn in that sense. But I don't fap to it because I like fapping to children being raped (GOD DAMN IT I HATE THAT RAPE LOLI) I fap to it because some of it is pretty hot. (And I normally fap to the ones that look more my age, you know...)
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[QUOTE=Cheesemonkey]I disagree.
Even though it is only drawn, it's still pornographic, and it takes advantage of pedophilia to strengthen the image's appeal. It appeals to pedos.
However, Video Games aren't designed to stimulate the part ofthe mind that enjoys killing, it just uses killing in a way that would be fun. They appeal to anyone, not just mass murderers.
You could make a game completely nonviolent yet it would still be a video game. Removing the child from the lolicon would turn it into normal porn, not lolicon.[/QUOTE]
Wrong, Video Games are strengthened by people who like killing...In video games that is.
[QUOTE=FN57]Except that animals don't have a human figure and aren't bipedal.
Lolicon on the other hand directly mimics child porn. How can you not see something wrong with that? You're becoming sexually attracted to children.[/QUOTE]
That's like saying anime is a direct representation of real life, what with how realistic it looks
[QUOTE=Cheesemonkey]I disagree.
Even though it is only drawn, it's still pornographic, and it takes advantage of pedophilia to strengthen the image's appeal. It appeals to pedos.
However, Video Games aren't designed to stimulate the part ofthe mind that enjoys killing, it just uses killing in a way that would be fun. They appeal to anyone, not just mass murderers.
You could make a game completely nonviolent yet it would still be a video game. Removing the child from the lolicon would turn it into normal porn, not lolicon.[/QUOTE]
If you remove the child from the lolicon, it's just still just a depiction of sex, only in a different manner. If you remove the violence from the videogame, it's still just a depiction, only a different one. I don't see where the comparison breaks down here. It's been stated several times in the thread that people who like lolicon do not necessarily find themselves attracted to real underage girls, just as someone who plays violent videogames must necessarily not be repulsed by the violence, but would not necessarily kill someone in real life.
I do disagree, in Japan there are events of women dressing up as lolitas. I think each person has It's own definition of it.
Myself I only like their outfit. Because I love big chests <3
I'm surprised, this thread caught my attention when I saw "127 reading!!"
[QUOTE=BricknHead]That's like saying anime is a direct representation of real life, what with how realistic it looks[/QUOTE]
Look, it's this simple.
If you're sexually attracted to the under-developed human body, you're a pedophile.
This includes "art work" such as lolicon, and actual children.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1]If you remove the child from the lolicon, it's just still just a depiction of sex, only in a different manner. If you remove the violence from the videogame, it's still just a depiction, only a different one. I don't see where the comparison breaks down here. It's been stated several times in the thread that people who like lolicon do not necessarily find themselves attracted to real underage girls, just as someone who plays violent videogames must necessarily not be repulsed by the violence, but would not necessarily kill someone in real life.[/QUOTE]
YOU'RE WRONG because I fap to my schoolmates...Is that bad
Seriously if you masturbate to fucking drawings and anime characters you have a serious fucking problem.
Lolicon is a pussyfied version of child porn.Loli not leading to the harm of children but it's pedophile fap material.
40% of people who fap to loli/CP commit a pedophilia act.
Pedophilia can be considered a sexual disorder (some sexologist suggest the old societies in which 15 year old girls got married to 21 year old males left a scar in some of us, in our unconscious, thus leading to you-know-what).
Unfortunately, their wild impulses leads them to become Child Predators.
[QUOTE=FN57]Look, it's this simple.
If you're sexually attracted to the under-developed human body, you're a pedophile.
This includes "art work" such as lolicon, and actual children.[/QUOTE]
OR YOU KNOW, YOU'RE A TEENAGER, BUT HEY, NO ONE IS A TEENAGER!
[QUOTE=AnemoneS2]I do disagree, in Japan there are events of women dressing up as lolitas. I think each person has It's own definition of it.
Myself I only like their outfit. Because I love big chests <3
I'm surprised, this thread caught my attention when I saw "127 reading!!"[/QUOTE]
Topics involving analysis of some sort of taboo topic usually get swarmed on FP.
[QUOTE=Trapper]Well, it's barely even child porn in that sense. But I don't fap to it because I like fapping to children being raped (GOD DAMN IT I HATE THAT RAPE LOLI) I fap to it because some of it is pretty hot. (And I normally fap to the ones that look more my age, you know...)
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Wrong, Video Games are strengthened by people who like killing...In video games that is.[/QUOTE]
The fact that peple enjoy killing in-game is irrelevent, and the fact the video games are interactive ads another spin that I'm not going to get into.
Lolicon uses little girls as it's strong point.
Violent games DON'T use an attraction to murder as it's strong point.
One plays on self fantasyurges, the other just involves something.
[QUOTE=Fred]40% of people who fap to loli/CP commit a pedophilia act.[/QUOTE]
80% of statistics are pulled out of the ass on the spot.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1]If you remove the child from the lolicon, it's just still just a depiction of sex, only in a different manner. If you remove the violence from the videogame, it's still just a depiction, only a different one. I don't see where the comparison breaks down here. It's been stated several times in the thread that people who like lolicon do not necessarily find themselves attracted to real underage girls, just as someone who plays violent videogames must necessarily not be repulsed by the violence, but would not necessarily kill someone in real life.[/QUOTE]
Good points.
/defeat
[QUOTE=Cheesemonkey]The fact that peple enjoy killing in-game is irrelevent, and the fact the video games are interactive ads another spin that I'm not going to get into.
Lolicon uses little girls as it's strong point.
[b]Violent games DON'T use an attraction to murder as it's strong point.[/b]
One plays on self fantasyurges, the other just involves something.[/QUOTE]
What the fuck, yes they do.
[QUOTE=Cheesemonkey]Good points.
/defeat[/QUOTE]
'Twas a pleasure to debate, esteemed sir.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1]80% of statistics are pulled out of the ass on the spot.[/QUOTE]
I think you mean 90%
[QUOTE=Bledrix]Seriously if you masturbate to fucking drawings and anime characters you have a serious fucking problem.[/QUOTE]
Or maybe, just fucking maybe everyone is sexually attracted to different things. If you're doing something you enjoy and not forcing someone else to enjoy something they don't enjoy then you're perfectly sane.
Infact, you're forcing us not to enjoy something we may enjoy, It might be you that has the serious fucking problem.
[QUOTE=Trapper]I think you mean 90%[/QUOTE]
You pulled that out of your ass!
[QUOTE=Runescape]Or maybe, just fucking maybe everyone is sexually attracted to different things. If you're doing something you enjoy and not forcing someone else to enjoy something they don't enjoy then you're perfectly sane.[/QUOTE]
NAH MAN I'M INTOLERANT NO BODY CAN BE DIFFERENT FROM ME OR THEY'RE FUCKED UP.
[QUOTE=FN57]Look, it's this simple.
If you're sexually attracted to the under-developed human body, you're a pedophile.
This includes "art work" such as lolicon, and actual children.[/QUOTE]
So you're saying people can't tell the difference between this
[img]http://www.tacinept.com/Rens_Stuff/loli.jpg[/img]
and this
[img]http://hopesprouts.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/lg2.jpg[/img]
I guess I can't tell the difference between killing someone in a game and killing people in real life, brb
[QUOTE=Trapper]What the fuck, yes they do.[/QUOTE]
Lolicon: EXPLICIT XXX LITTLE KIDS SEX SEX
Vidya: RIP AND TEAR YOU LOVE KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE
One doesn't belong.
How many times do you see "Murder JUST LIKE REAL LIFE" on a box?
And I'm not debating this point further.
[QUOTE=BricknHead]So you're saying people can't tell the difference between this
[img]http://www.tacinept.com/Rens_Stuff/loli.jpg[/img]
and this
[img]http://hopesprouts.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/lg2.jpg[/img]
I guess I can't tell the difference between killing someone in a game and killing people in real life, brb[/QUOTE]
Bottom is gross, top is sexy :girlv:
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[QUOTE=Cheesemonkey]Lolicon: EXPLICIT XXX LITTLE KIDS SEX SEX
Vidya: RIP AND TEAR YOU LOVE KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE
How many times do you see "Murder JUST LIKE REAL LIFE" on a box?[/QUOTE]
How many times do you see "ENJOY THE SCENERY DON'T KILL ANYONE JUST HAVE FUN" on the box?
[QUOTE=Trapper]I think you mean 90%[/QUOTE]
I think you mean 110%, sir
[QUOTE=Trapper]Bottom is gross, top is sexy :girlv:
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How many times do you see "ENJOY THE SCENERY DON'T KILL ANYONE JUST HAVE FUN" on the box?[/QUOTE]
It's "sexy" because there's no way to differentiate that between a fully-grown flat chested animu babe or a loli. With anime, face style doesn't change with age, so there's little to play by.
[QUOTE=Cheesemonkey]Lolicon: EXPLICIT XXX LITTLE KIDS SEX SEX
Vidya: RIP AND TEAR YOU LOVE KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE
One doesn't belong.
How many times do you see "Murder JUST LIKE REAL LIFE" on a box?
And I'm not debating this point further.[/QUOTE]
Drawn pornography is drawn pornography for a reason
it tends not to happen in real life
So the lolicon isn't exactly "CHILD SEX JUST LIKE REAL LIFE" either
[QUOTE=Bledrix]Seriously if you masturbate to fucking drawings and anime characters you have a serious fucking problem.[/QUOTE]
Nah.
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