[QUOTE=Weirdo009;21105267]Why would it be correct if that websites owner put it there? It's his opinion on it.
It's not any different than mine. QED[/QUOTE]
The definitions of words come from the people who coin them
[QUOTE=Darkar;21105261]:siren:[highlight]PEOPLE! I HAVE A GREAT IDEA![/highlight]:siren:
[B]IF GOD EXISTS HE WILL FORCE GARRY TO POST IN THIS THREAD IN THE NEXT 5 MINUTES[/B]
if nothing happens god doesnt exist[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry, but that makes no sense and you're only making it harder for these good people to further argue their points.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;21105277]
[B]Agnostic[/B]: I can't believe either way[/QUOTE]
Good god you're dense.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;21105277]The furthest you can simply the definitions is this:
[b]Atheist[/b]: I don't believe
[b]Theist[/b]: I believe
[b]Agnostic[/b]: I can't believe either way[/QUOTE]
Quoting for emphasis
[editline]04:40PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Weirdo009;21105296]Good god you're dense.[/QUOTE]
I DON'T KNOW is completely different than I CAN'T KNOW
agnosticism is the latter
get it through your skull
[QUOTE=Zeke129;21105299]I DON'T KNOW is completely different than I CAN'T KNOW
get it through your skull[/QUOTE]
Agnostic is "I don't know" and "I can't know", it has both definitions.
But most people use "I don't know"
i'm not even sure what I believe but I can definitely say this.
no disorder could EVER let you change your voice, and speak in a language you don't know FLUENTLY.
That'd be like me sounding like Lady Gaga then yelling at someone in Russian.
[QUOTE=Mexican;21105327]Agnostic is "I don't know" and "I can't know", it has both definitions.[/QUOTE]
The traditional definition of agnostic is simply "humanity is unable to know the truth". It's also the most elegant definition.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;21105299]
I DON'T KNOW is completely different than I CAN'T KNOW
agnosticism is the latter
[/QUOTE]
Or you don't give a fuck about god or not
If you're on the fence and you want to call yourself an agnostic, fine. But don't misapply that label to other people.
[QUOTE=bud389;21100538]Thats one possible theory, but to me, the "other languages" part makes me wonder. She also displays more "multiple personnality" type syndrome effects then she does just plain batshit insane (schizophrenic) effects, but normally you need traumatic events from childhood to cause that and the personnality being reflected is a personnality from your past (which doesn't suit this case at all).[/QUOTE]
I think she was a cocktail of Schizophrenia, Multiple Personality disorder, and mind-alter delusions.
IMO, the mind controls and overpowers everything. So if you believe enough that you are possessed, your thoughts become reality.
[QUOTE=Weirdo009;21105371]Or you don't give a fuck about god or not[/QUOTE]
That's just general apathy.
Like I said, you can label yourself whatever you want. But don't go applying your labels to other people when you don't fully understand them.
[QUOTE=Leon;21105364]i'm not even sure what I believe but I can definitely say this.
no disorder could EVER let you change your voice, and speak in a language you don't know FLUENTLY.
That'd be like me sounding like Lady Gaga then yelling at someone in Russian.[/QUOTE]
Foreign Accent Disorder and Foreign Language Disorder
[QUOTE=Zeke129;21105367]The traditional definition of agnostic is simply "humanity is unable to know the truth". It's also the most elegant definition.[/QUOTE]
okay if you want to go by definitions, a language is "a body of words and the systems for their use common to a people who are of the same community or nation, the same geographical area, or the same cultural tradition" therefore if the common people have re-attributed agnostic to mean "I don't know" then it means "I don't know"
[QUOTE=Uberman77883;21105376]I think she was a cocktail of Schizophrenia, Multiple Personality disorder, and mind-alter delusions.
IMO, the mind controls and overpowers everything. So if you believe enough that you are possessed, your thoughts become reality.[/QUOTE]
yeah so i'll just learn german in 5 minutes
lol religion sucks im such a cool rebel lets smoke weed
[QUOTE=Leon;21105400]yeah so i'll just learn german in 5 minutes[/QUOTE]
You're heard enough German throughout your life to piece together phrases, perhaps even have a conversation. Your conscious mind simply can't tap into this resource because we're not wired to do so.
who said i was?
[QUOTE=Paravin;21105403]lol religion sucks im such a cool rebel lets smoke weed[/QUOTE]
ok
[QUOTE=Paravin;21105403]lol religion sucks im such a cool rebel lets smoke weed[/QUOTE]
ok
[QUOTE=Mexican;21105399]okay if you want to go by definitions, a language is "a body of words and the systems for their use common to a people who are of the same community or nation, the same geographical area, or the same cultural tradition" therefore if the common people have re-attributed agnostic to mean "I don't know" then it means "I don't know"[/QUOTE]
Like I said twice, knock yourself out. But don't mislabel other people.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;21105421]You're heard enough German throughout your life to piece together phrases, perhaps even have a conversation. Your conscious mind simply can't tap into this resource because we're not wired to do so.[/QUOTE]
fine i'll go speak martian
wait
[QUOTE=Zeke129;21105435]Like I said twice, knock yourself out. But don't mislabel other people.[/QUOTE]
I didn't mislabel anyone, it's always atheists trying to say I'm atheist and not agnostic actually.
[QUOTE=Leon;21105439]fine i'll go speak martian
wait[/QUOTE]
Your analogy is asinine.
[editline]04:48PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Mexican;21105453]I didn't mislabel anyone, it's always atheists trying to say I'm atheist and not agnostic actually.[/QUOTE]
I'm going to assume you meant "agnostics trying to say they're atheist and not agnostic".
i think neo-paganism is the best religion
[editline]12:49AM[/editline]
its self centered and you get to actaually do stuff not leave it to a god
[QUOTE=Zeke129;21105421]You're heard enough German throughout your life to piece together phrases, perhaps even have a conversation. Your conscious mind simply can't tap into this resource because we're not wired to do so.[/QUOTE]
That isn't true, actually. The mind doesn't simply store all of the information it gets (for example, you don't learn German subconciously by passively experiencing it over time). If you can prove otherwise, please show source.
[QUOTE=Darkar;21105489]
its self centered and you get to actaually do stuff not leave it to a god[/QUOTE]
LaVeyan Satanism
look it up
[QUOTE=Zeke129;21105461]I'm going to assume you meant "agnostics trying to say they're atheist and not agnostic".[/QUOTE]
No I mean there's literally atheists who go HEY MAN YOU'RE NOT AGNOSTIC YOU'RE ATHEIST QUIT SAYING YOU'RE AGNOSTIC as if they think making more people say they're atheists will strengthen their cause or something
[QUOTE=Zeke129;21105521]LaVeyan Satanism
look it up[/QUOTE]
theres more stuff to paganism than satanism
wicca for example
[QUOTE=Mesothere;21105513]That isn't true, actually. The mind doesn't simply store all of the information it gets (for example, you don't learn German subconciously by passively experiencing it over time). If you can prove otherwise, please show source.[/QUOTE]
[url=http://www.news.com.au/weird-true-freaky/speedway-crash-victim-suddenly-bilingual/story-e6frflri-1111114418448]Here's a guy who was in a car accident and started speaking perfect English despite only having a basic understanding of the language[/url]
[editline]04:53PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Mexican;21105534]No I mean there's literally atheists who go HEY MAN YOU'RE NOT AGNOSTIC YOU'RE ATHEIST QUIT SAYING YOU'RE AGNOSTIC as if they think making more people say they're atheists will strengthen their cause or something[/QUOTE]
Well those are the mis-labellers I bitched about.
[QUOTE=Darkar;21105553]theres more stuff to paganism than satanism[/QUOTE]
LaVeyan Satanism has nothing to do with paganism and is entirely atheistic. I just mentioned it because you expressed an interest in self-centered religions that don't rely on gods.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;21105594][url=http://www.news.com.au/weird-true-freaky/speedway-crash-victim-suddenly-bilingual/story-e6frflri-1111114418448]Here's a guy who was in a car accident and started speaking perfect English despite only having a basic understanding of the language[/url]
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Well those are the mis-labellers I bitched about.
LaVeyan Satanism has nothing to do with paganism and is entirely atheistic. I just mentioned it because you expressed an interest in self-centered religions that don't rely on gods.[/QUOTE]
The article does state that he was making an effort to learn it. He could've known more than he let on.
I'm not against your side of the argument or anything, I'd just like some solid proof on that statement.
[QUOTE=Mesothere;21105637]The article does state that he was making an effort to learn it. He could've known more than he let on.
I'm not against your side of the argument or anything, I'd just like some solid proof on that statement.[/QUOTE]
It's all dodgy because it just isn't common. It's not like this girl had entire conversations in foreign languages, she just used a few sentences. She could have heard them before and just forgot about it until the stress of the "exorcism".
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