[QUOTE=Mexican;21104312]Religion is "a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe" so yeah it is.[/QUOTE]
Atheism is not a religion you dumb fuck. It's simply a [B]lack of belief[/B] in the existence of any deities.
[QUOTE=alphaspida;21104348]If you believe in god you do not believe that trees can grow. My point[/QUOTE]
...:v:
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[QUOTE=JDK721v2;21104363]Atheism is not a religion you dumb fuck. It's simply a [B]lack of belief[/B] in the existence of any deities.[/QUOTE]
Nope, that's agnosticism. A bunch of agnostics like to twist the meaning of atheist because for some reason they want to be called atheist instead of agnostic.
[QUOTE=CobraUnit;21104323]Shut the fuck up, all of you.
Stop waving your prepubescent "intellectual" dicks around trying to look smart. This is about the exorcism, not this playground fight between kids about religion. You guys arent masters of religious philosophy and history.
ON TOPIC:
It was scary to the point that mental issues could progress into something this bad. The human mind is crazy.[/QUOTE]
best post on the thread, i say we listen to this guy
[QUOTE=Mexican;21104355]Okay assuming I wouldn't let you look behind the curtain, [B]you get the point though.[/B][/QUOTE]
Well, I could argue that if there wasn't a car behind it, why the fuck would you put a curtain in the middle of no where.
[QUOTE=Mexican;21104364]...:v:
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Nope, that's agnosticism. A bunch of agnostics like to twist the meaning of atheist because for some reason they want to be called atheist instead of agnostic.[/QUOTE]
Lol, being agnostic means you are not sure my friend. Not lack of belief
[QUOTE=Kybalt;21104427]Well, I could argue that if there wasn't a car behind it, why the fuck would you put a curtain in the middle of no where.[/QUOTE]
Because we're on a game show called "is there a car back there" and I'm your host Bob Barker and stop trying to ruin my metaphor by taking it seriously.
[QUOTE=Mexican;21104364]...:v:
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Nope, that's agnosticism. A bunch of agnostics like to twist the meaning of atheist because for some reason they want to be called atheist instead of agnostic.[/QUOTE]
Agnostic means belief that one cannot prove, or disprove god.
[QUOTE=alphaspida;21104430]Lol, being agnostic means you are not sure my friend. Not lack of belief[/QUOTE]
same thing yo
[QUOTE=CobraUnit;21104323]Shut the fuck up, all of you.
Stop waving your prepubescent "intellectual" dicks around trying to look smart. This is about the exorcism, not this playground fight between kids about religion. You guys arent masters of religious philosophy and history.
ON TOPIC:
[B]It was scary to the point that mental issues could progress into something this bad. The human mind is crazy.[/B][/QUOTE]
No it's quite clear that she was actually possessed by demons. :smug:
[QUOTE=Mexican;21104275]It's not just religious, it's regarding all forms of knowledge. You can be agnostic to anything at all, and it's saying you don't know 100% if said thing is true. Most people are slightly agnostic but have a major hint towards their belief. When people say they're agnostic, though, they pretty much mean they don't have a belief either way and accept they don't know and don't care to guess.
If I showed you a curtain, and asked if their was a car behind it, you wouldn't say "no because I don't have any evidence". You'd simply say "I don't know". So the default is agnostic.[/QUOTE]
Yes, you're right. The default in regards to things like that is agnosticism (because everyone here knows the concept of "car"), but this is a debate about god. Someone who doesn't know about the concept of god (raised isolated from society or something) can't be agnostic towards it. That's the point I was trying to make.
[QUOTE=Mexican;21104364]Nope, that's agnosticism. A bunch of agnostics like to twist the meaning of atheist because for some reason they want to be called atheist instead of agnostic.[/QUOTE]
You're wrong again. Believing that there isn't a god (or not believing in god, yes they're the same for all intents and purposes. Don't start arguing semantics.) is atheism. Believing that we'll never know whether or not there's a god is agnosticism.
[QUOTE=Mexican;21104364]Nope, that's agnosticism. A bunch of agnostics like to twist the meaning of atheist because for some reason they want to be called atheist instead of agnostic.[/QUOTE]
Wow, you're retarded. Do you even understand what the word means?
The prefix 'a' means lack of, absence of, etc. Theism is the belief in at least one deity.
[B]A[/B]theism
[QUOTE=Zeke129;21104473]You're wrong again. Believing that there isn't a god (or not believing in god, yes they're the same for all intents and purposes. Don't start arguing semantics.) is atheism. Believing that we'll never know whether or not there's a god is agnosticism.[/QUOTE]
Mexican can't understand, Zeke.
Not a racist comment. I am stating his name.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;21104471]No it's quite clear that she was actually possessed by demons. :smug:[/QUOTE]
Absolutely. Demonic possession is a great metaphor for this. :smug:
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[QUOTE=alphaspida;21104499]Mexican can't understand, Zeke.[/QUOTE]
Racist
[QUOTE=Zeke129;21104502]Absolutely. Demonic possession is a great metaphor for this. :smug:
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Racist[/QUOTE]
I wasn't being racist, I was stating his name, since that is.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;21104226]Yes, you're using an incorrect definition.
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Yes, that wrong and illogical can both mean the same thing.[/QUOTE]
As stated above by me and at least one other person, you're using many incorrect definitions yourself.
[QUOTE=alphaspida;21104517]I wasn't being racist, I was stating his name, since that is.[/QUOTE]
And I was being sarcastic
your detector is set to the wrong frequencies
I'm going by accepted dictionary definitions not what they should be based on roots and bases.
Here's my crappy chart that I always have to pull out.
[IMG]http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii173/AAOMGiZL/religionchart.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Mexican;21104445]Because we're on a game show called "is there a car back there" and I'm your host Bob Barker and stop trying to ruin my metaphor by taking it seriously.[/QUOTE]
That's an even worse example. I'm assuming that in the past there had been cars behind it, therefore it would be equally logical for me to choose either one, (assuming you had an even probability of having a car back there). However, the claim of god is completely unverifiable, which is the only thing giving it credit.
[QUOTE=Mexican;21104532]I'm going by accepted dictionary definitions not what they should be based on roots and bases.
Here's my crappy chart that I always have to pull out.
[IMG]http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii173/AAOMGiZL/religionchart.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
You do realize that your chart proves me right and you wrong
read the definitions of atheism and agnosticism there. you'll see
[QUOTE=Kybalt;21104542]therefore it would be equally logical for me to choose either one[/QUOTE]
now you're gettin' it
[QUOTE=Mexican;21104561]now you're gettin' it[/QUOTE]
equally logical in regards to cars behind curtains, but not god
[QUOTE=Mexican;21104561]now you're gettin' it[/QUOTE]
When will you?
[QUOTE=alphaspida;21104585]When will you?[/QUOTE]
He won't
Preconceived notions are a bitch to crack
[QUOTE=Zeke129;21104551]You do realize that your chart proves me right and you wrong
read the definitions of atheism and agnosticism there. you'll see[/QUOTE]
If it does than I read whatever you said originally wrong.
My point is if you say you're atheist most people will assume you're saying you believe there are no gods, so if you're not very sure it's good to throw in the "agnostic" qualifier. If you don't know or care, just say agnostic.
[QUOTE=alphaspida;21104585]When will you?[/QUOTE]
Even if he does get it, I extremely doubt he would admit it in the thread.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;21104578]equally logical in regards to cars behind curtains, but not god[/QUOTE]
no, still to god. same exact concept. possible things we can't know the answer to and we don't know and we shouldn't care.
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[QUOTE=alphaspida;21104585]When will you?[/QUOTE]
When will I get what? That there's no way there could be a god, somehow?
I like how whenever we have a religion thread all the atheists 15 year olds try and speak with proper grammar where anywhere else on the forum they might type just like me.
I personally cant see how Atheists can just say there's not a God. nobody knows until you die, why dont you just go die and see if there is a hell.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;21104621]Even if he does get it, I extremely doubt he would admit it in the thread.[/QUOTE]
You aren't admitting you're wrong, either
[QUOTE=Mexican;21104622]we shouldn't care[/QUOTE]
I care a lot
[QUOTE=alphaspida;21104668]I care a lot[/QUOTE]
which is dumb
but I won't judge you on it
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