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Edit: If I remember correctly the piece of paper would represent space time.[/QUOTE]
you think that you know more about wormholes than anyone else on FP but you aren't sure whether or not the median through which you're taking a shortcut is spacetime. :frog:
It's not really a small clarification, and that's my point. The whole basis of the way wormholes function is on the fact that they are effectively shorter passageways through spacetime, and without knowing that it's spacetime that you're taking the shortcut through, the information is hardly valuable.
Although your specification of "which would make it FASTER than going there AT the speed of light. Not faster THAN the speed of light," is really good
[QUOTE=Isaiah Mustafa;29409686]there you go proving my point for me, I needn't even post at all[/QUOTE]
That'd be nice.
before arguing wether or not a wormhole is or is not space-time, I think you should first try to figure out HOW and WHY it is created, before discussing WHAT it's made of.
[QUOTE=Ac!dL3ak;29411928]before arguing wether or not a wormhole is or is not space-time, I think you should first try to figure out HOW and WHY it is created, before discussing WHAT it's made of.[/QUOTE]
1) It is spacetime.
2) No you shouldn't.
[QUOTE=Isaiah Mustafa;29411124]It's not really a small clarification, and that's my point. The whole basis of the way wormholes function is on the fact that they are effectively shorter passageways through spacetime, and [b]without knowing that it's spacetime that you're taking the shortcut through[/b], the information is hardly valuable.
Although your specification of "which would make it FASTER than going there AT the speed of light. Not faster THAN the speed of light," is really good[/QUOTE]
if I read that right
What are you talking about
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Also weather or whether not a wormhole is or is not space-time? What the fuck?
I am really underestimating the daftness of facepunch. A wormhole isn't spacetime, it is a [B]shortcut through[/B] spacetime. Spacetime, a sort of flowing combination of both space and time has boundaries such as a 'speed limit' of sorts (the speed of light). The idea is that you can effectively break these constraints by taking a shortcut through spacetime to another place in spacetime without going the long way there. If you take the shortcut to another location, you could arrive much faster than light could. It is also to be noted that you are not traveling faster than light, but you are simply going from one place to another faster than at the speed of light.
[QUOTE=Isaiah Mustafa;29412216]What are you talking about
[editline]25th April 2011[/editline]
Also weather or whether not a wormhole is or is not space-time? What the fuck?
I am really underestimating the daftness of facepunch. [b]A wormhole isn't spacetime[/b], it is a [B]shortcut through[/B] spacetime. Spacetime, a sort of flowing combination of both space and time has boundaries such as a 'speed limit' of sorts (the speed of light). The idea is that you can effectively break these constraints by taking a shortcut through spacetime to another place in spacetime without going the long way there. If you take the shortcut to another location, you could arrive much faster than light could. It is also to be noted that you are not traveling faster than light, but you are simply going from one place to another faster than at the speed of light.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;29411974][b]1) It is spacetime.[/b]
2) No you shouldn't.[/QUOTE]
I am confused.
holy christ...
please go back to making old spice commercials and stop posting on this matter
I'm sorry, I really didn't think it was so difficult to comprehend
oh god not this again
Odd, I've attempted several of these maneuvers over my travels and none have seemed to work. I'll give the wormhole theory another go in due time.
JohnnyMo, what's your definition of "mass"?
Dude I travel forward through time every day.
After reading this thread before going to bed last night, I had a dream I found a Delorean time machine and spent the whole time excitedly trying to get it to work, only to realise just before waking up the time circuits weren't switched on.
Fuck you FP.
[QUOTE=Ac!dL3ak;29411928]I think you should first try to figure out HOW and WHY it is created, before discussing WHAT it's made of.[/QUOTE]
uh we need to know what something is made of before we can even begin to comprehend how to make it
I feel that it's impossible to change the timeline. The past has already happened, right? Well, if you go back to the past, you can't change it. You may think you've changed it, but you've ALREADY gone back to the past and did whatever you did. The timeline will stay the same. Do whatever you want, George McFly will not become a cooler dude
all you smart guys can prove me wrong, but that's what I think
[QUOTE=Rct33;29407551]Can you explain this.[/QUOTE]
Energy must be a real quantity. If you go to speeds above the speed of light, [img]http://math.daggeringcats.com/?E=\frac{m c^2}{\sqrt{1 - \frac{v^2}{c^2}}[/img] becomes an imaginary quantity. But if the mass also were imaginary then the energy becomes real again [img]http://math.daggeringcats.com/?i^2 = -1[/img]. But those particles (e.g. Tachyons) can't cross the speed-of-light border to get "slower". Still this is just a hypothetical consideration concerning the math and no evidences for Tachyons have been found yet.
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[QUOTE=FinalHunter;29408760]Just because you're within a wormhole doesn't mean you're travelling faster than light.
Someone needs to read up on some wormhole theories...[/QUOTE]
Even with a warp-drive or wormhole, you are locally always below the speed of light. Still you can reach other regions of space within a short period of time you'd otherwise had needed FTL speeds for. That's why some people refer to those types of travel (incorrectly) as FTL. But it has been quite a convention so get along with that :)
How much do you charge for a time travel?
[QUOTE=JgcxCub;29417455]JohnnyMo, what's your definition of "mass"?[/QUOTE]
Density x volume.
[QUOTE=cqbcat;29406606]That's not a time machine. This is:
[img_thumb]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_z2d4IxltHJI/TLs1ffl6R8I/AAAAAAAAECE/McgjRUL2jF4/s1600/SexyChik_smokingBong.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE]
Anyone who rated this dumb needs to watch Futurama.
[QUOTE=flyschy;29392902]One of the things I'm not sure about. Would like to know the physics behind it very much.
It is but by [b]abusing[/b] worm holes or cosmic strings you can take short-cuts in space time that light cannot take allowing you to effectively do you[/QUOTE]
Glitches in real life.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;29422846]Density x volume.[/QUOTE]
No, I don't mean like that. I mean, what is mass a measure of? What [I]is[/I] it?
[QUOTE=JgcxCub;29436497]No, I don't mean like that. I mean, what is mass a measure of? What [I]is[/I] it?[/QUOTE]
There are a bunch of ways to define it. Resistance to acceleration due to some force, and the amount to which an object curves spacetime are the two that come to mind.
Ima go time travel back into the world wars and record everything in Full HD and 3D!
Without getting in the way of the war (.............)
For everyone trying to explain wormholes, wouldn't a good example be something like Portal? I'm not an expert on theoretical whatever, but it seems like the portals in Portal are essentially what everyone's explaining. There's 2 points in space, and you can go through one point and instantly come out of the other.
[QUOTE=BlueFlash;29448117]For everyone trying to explain wormholes, wouldn't a good example be something like Portal? I'm not an expert on theoretical whatever, but it seems like the portals in Portal are essentially what everyone's explaining. There's 2 points in space, and you can go through one point and instantly come out of the other.[/QUOTE]
It's not usually the concept of being somewhere else instantly what bothers people. That's in lots of popular culture.
It's usually the bending of space that puzzles people. Can't really visualize "bending" 3D space because we can't visualize more dimensions to bend it in to.
[QUOTE=Block;29448287]It's not usually the concept of being somewhere else instantly what bothers people. That's in lots of popular culture.
It's usually the bending of space that puzzles people. Can't really visualize "bending" 3D space because we can't visualize more dimensions to bend it in to.[/QUOTE]
Well all you really have to do is show a 2D manifold embedded in 3-space warping and say "It's that with one more dimension." You may not be able to visualize it exactly but it gets the concept across.
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