[QUOTE=Novangel;50900964]These demos are waaaay too scripted[/QUOTE]
I'm getting the impression of one of those games where the "gameplay" is really a scripted mockup. It looks more authentic than the last demo but it still doesn't look much like an actual game at all.
There was a Metroid 2 remake called Metroid SR388 that did the same thing, and it later turned out that it never actually existed.
[QUOTE=usaokay;50900696]For a realm that is full of fire and lava, Hell sure is dark.[/QUOTE]
To be fair Hell is huge and has varied geography and climate.
Imagine getting some hardcore Christian who hates video games like Animal Crossing for being the work of Satan and having them play this. Even better if you can do it in VR.
Mmm, Baphomet Booty
hopefully it's not just another running-away-from-things simulator but prospects for that are looking slim
[editline]17th August 2016[/editline]
also this hell is gross. DOOM hell is much classier
this seems like it would be cool with vr yeah
I hope for varied terrain/areas and also the ability to appreciate said architecture/HELLCHITECTURE without being buttfucked by chase monsters 24/7
We know from the last demo that someone(thing) is trying to contact you, and that you can absorb powers from or fight others in hell or from certain spots, so running all the time may not be a thing.
Of course there's probably a catch where using the power makes you more evil or some shit like that, but it doesn't look like running away from everything is 100% of gameplay.
[QUOTE=Robber;50902216]What happens when you die in hell? I don't see how anything that would come after could possibly be worse.[/QUOTE]
In the bible, the purpose of hell is to kill you for good in the most horrid way possible, as you can still die since only god is eternal or some shit like that, so maybe it's something like that?
[QUOTE=Blazedol;50904143]In the bible, the purpose of hell is to kill you for good in the most horrid way possible, as you can still die since only god is eternal or some shit like that, so maybe it's something like that?[/QUOTE]
The bible is very vague about the definition of hell, it's mostly Dante's inferno that gave people the images of the hell we see today.
Seeing a bunch of skeletons in a place that's supposedly hell breaks my immersion because how are there dead people???
[QUOTE=Tetsmega;50904329]Seeing a bunch of skeletons in a place that's supposedly hell breaks my immersion because how are there dead people???[/QUOTE]
I don't think Hell has literal definitions or descriptions. It's almost perceptive to the person being tormented. It also doesn't have to conform to real world concepts.
What I'm saying is the skeletons don't strike me as odd. They're something people fear, something that reminds them of their own mortality etc. etc. and it seems appropriate to have Hell littered with them if by no other purpose than to disturb the tormented. Watching other people being mutilated and killed also doesn't have to represent literal real individuals. For all we know Hell is a state of being and existence and not a physical location, real world concepts such as individuality don't have to exist.
In theory if you were absolutely completely terrified, disturbed by car crashes than perhaps Hell to you would be an endless series of car accidents, pile-ups, mangled corpses in seat belts, limbs sticking out of windshields etc. etc.
They don't have to have deceased owners if you get me. They exist. That's all. Just like the people you see in dreams and nightmares don't really exist. Just because people can't "die" in dreams doesn't mean they don't actually die in your nightmares, they do.
And the actual mechanisms of hell are left to the interpreter and vary through different texts and author.
Like, the setting for this game isn't Miami Beach or the Empire State Building. There are no pictures, references or real world locations, examples or inspirations for Hell. It's up to their imagination. Saying Hell shouldn't have this, that or the other thing seems kind of irrelevant to me. If "Hell" had concrete source material like Hogwarts did in the Harry Potter books we could start comparing and picking apart the setting but there is no good source material. Even the bible is a little sketchy on the details, Dante's Inferno is probably as close as you can get to real physical descriptions of Hell and it's from the 14th Century.
I really want to like this game, but the 2016 Horror FPS bandwagon is stopping me from doing that.
[QUOTE=dead60;50900734]First Scorn and now Agony. I can't wait for both of them.[/QUOTE]
Now all we need is an Israeli developer to come out with a game called Tsuris
[QUOTE=Tetsmega;50904329]Seeing a bunch of skeletons in a place that's supposedly hell breaks my immersion because how are there dead people???[/QUOTE]
If hell is anything like what I've been told, you can die, you just come back. So maybe those skeletons are from one person being tortured and killed over and over or etc.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;50903558]Imagine getting some hardcore Christian who hates video games like Animal Crossing for being the work of Satan and having them play this. Even better if you can do it in VR.[/QUOTE]
CHRISTIANS REACT
Is this by chance inspired by Wayne Barlowe's "Inferno" series of paintings?
[QUOTE=Novangel;50904328]The bible is very vague about the definition of hell, it's mostly Dante's inferno that gave people the images of the hell we see today.[/QUOTE]
I wish we see the original bible-version of Satan.
Wasn't it like a dragon with 7 heads or something? How cool would that be!
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In theory if you were absolutely completely terrified, disturbed by car crashes than perhaps Hell to you would be an endless series of car accidents, pile-ups, mangled corpses in seat belts, limbs sticking out of windshields etc. etc.
They don't have to have deceased owners if you get me. They exist. That's all. Just like the people you see in dreams and nightmares don't really exist. Just because people can't "die" in dreams doesn't mean they don't actually die in your nightmares, they do.
And the actual mechanisms of hell are left to the interpreter and vary through different texts and author.
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It would be pretty cool if the game did something like Until Dawn or Silent Hill Shattered Memories where the game would alter itself (environments, enemies etc) based off your choices you pick in the game. Sadly in both of these games, the alterations are quite minor and considering how this is a game made by less than 10 people, can't expect something like that from them.
[QUOTE=SgtTupelo;50906600]I wish we see the original bible-version of Satan.
Wasn't it like a dragon with 7 heads or something? How cool would that be![/QUOTE]
That wasn't satan, but that was in the bible, although it was a leopard, and jesus threw it and a two headed lamb into a lake of fire because revelations is fucking metal
[QUOTE=Blazedol;50906663]That wasn't satan, but that was in the bible, although it was a leopard, and jesus threw it and a two headed lamb into a lake of fire because revelations is fucking metal[/QUOTE]
Actually it was, it's how Satan is described in Revelations 12:
[QUOTE="King James Bible"]And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, [B]called the Devil, and Satan[/B], which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.[/QUOTE]
fuck I didn't know Satan was that cool
[QUOTE=doctordarken;50902178]I wish I wasn't a pussy and could play spooky games without shitting out my heart.[/QUOTE]
The fact that it looks to represent Hell based on "The Divine Comedy" and other biblical nods makes this one of the scariest games that I will never play. Amnesia was scary, but it gave you time to breathe after being chased or saw something bizarre. In "Agony"? You're in worst place mankind could ever imagine! There are no breaks in Hell! VR with this game would surely put someone in a coma!
I have to wonder if the movement in the game is actually designed to be, for lack of a better word, as agonizing as it is in the gameplay trailer or if whoever's playing is just literally moving in the most obnoxious, headache inducing way possible for dramatic effect.
Seriously I've never had headaches from FPS's before but every single piece of footage from this game has given me one.
If the movement in game is really as slow, crawling and sluggish as the trailers, it'll be, uh, interesting.
the pr for this game is going to be agony
I don't really get it. Is walking around and enjoying the scenery the only thing you do in this game? The scenery itself was kind of letting me down as well. I like the idea of a surrealist interpretation of hell with corpse architecture and stuff, but this just seems like a muddy mess of effects and miscellaneous organ textures.
Watch the original trailer and you'll see there's combat and "magic" or hell juju or whatever.
At first I thought that corridor was made of tentacles.
Nope.
It's [I]teeth.[/I]
[QUOTE=srobins;50922621]I don't really get it. Is walking around and enjoying the scenery the only thing you do in this game?[/QUOTE]
My first thoughts were that it'd be something akin to the Penumbra games and the series' successors. Horror-adventure. Picking up the fertility statue and hiding from the vaginamorph supports that. But if there's hell juju like 27X said then maybe it'll be more similar to Alien: Isolation. Hide when things are around, do stuff when you're alone.
[QUOTE=srobins;50922621]The scenery itself was kind of letting me down as well. I like the idea of a surrealist interpretation of hell with corpse architecture and stuff, but this just seems like a muddy mess of effects and miscellaneous organ textures.[/QUOTE]
I think it looks fucking awesome. I think the muddy mess works well because I would imagine hell to be an exceedingly chaotic, even disorienting place.
I spent most time thinking while watching the trailer how uncomfortable it must be to walk on any of that irregular surface.
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