Far-right activist Richard Spencer is punched on camera while being interviewed - General

[QUOTE=Foogooman;51701895]"Let's not take the rise of nazism seriously, because surely that could never happen in the modern day, right?" says increasingly nervous man[/QUOTE] That doesn't answer my question or have anything to with what I asked, either directly or indirectly. When are you starting your militia?

[QUOTE=jimhowl33t;51701898]I feel like I've already heard something like that before, except it was in German.[/QUOTE] I don't understand how you can compare "let's kill minorities to make the white race strong" to "let's squash nazism before it gains a foothold" like they're equally horrible

[QUOTE=Wafflemonstr;51701904]My point is that if Liberals don't nip this in the bud in some way, these "alt-right" groups could become the monarchists of their time. Trump is a (alleged) multi-billionaire, with a cabinet comprised of the wealthy, and a Vice President that openly wants to eliminate the rights of LGBT groups. Mind you, this all occurring in a time when wealth inequality is at it's highest in who knows how long. This is not too far from the realities of the time of the French Revolution, it's just sugarcoated nowadays.[/QUOTE] You don't "nip this in the bud" by outright assaulting people. All that does is sets precedent and fosters their ideals. I mean what are you suggesting, just perpetually beating them till they are too scared or outright killing them?

[QUOTE=Foogooman;51701913]I don't understand how you can compare "let's kill minorities to make the white race strong" to "let's squash nazism before it gains a foothold" like they're equally horrible[/QUOTE] Being intolerant of bigots makes you a bigot, obviously

[QUOTE=Samiam22;51701875]I was thinking of something along this line. Feels like a "we'll react with violence but we're in the right this time" reply.[/QUOTE] it also compares getting punched in the face to murder but you know, if you can't distinguish violence from fascism it's unsurprising that you can't distinguish any kind of meaningful boundaries at all :^)

[QUOTE=Foogooman;51701913]I don't understand how you can compare "let's kill minorities to make the white race strong" to "let's squash nazism before it gains a foothold" like they're equally horrible[/QUOTE] I don't understand how you can say something like "These people are a threat, let's squash the vermin before they have a chance to harm us" and not take a step back, rethink that for a minute, and wonder if you've accidentally quoted Mein Kampf.

[QUOTE=Samiam22;51701919]Being intolerant of bigots makes you a bigot, obviously[/QUOTE] Yes, actually. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/GkNCNvT.png[/IMG]

Of course people are on here defending this. This forum has a massive hate boner for anything slightly right leaning.

[QUOTE=jimhowl33t;51701927]I don't understand how you can say something like "These people are a threat, let's squash the vermin before they have a chance to harm us" and not take a step back, rethink that for a minute, and wonder if you've accidentally quoted Mein Kampf.[/QUOTE] Because in Mein Kampf it would be referring to innocent people When I'm saying it I'm referring to irredeemable literal fucking nazis

[QUOTE=Foogooman;51701858]Do people really have a problem with Nazis getting punched? I say squash the cockroaches before they infest the place. Don't forget that nazi ideals once threatened the entire planet[/QUOTE] People can say the same thing about Islam.

[QUOTE=Foogooman;51701937]irredeemable[/QUOTE] how exactly?

[QUOTE=Foogooman;51701937]Because in Mein Kampf it would be referring to innocent people When I'm saying it I'm referring to irredeemable literal fucking nazis[/QUOTE] Being a nazi does not mean you are irredeemable or unsavable, people can change grow and learn and we should try for that before violence.

[QUOTE=Zombinie;51701933]Yes, actually. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/GkNCNvT.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] And I suppose BLM are the real racists, too. [QUOTE=Sombrero;51701936]Of course people are on here defending this. This forum has a massive hate boner for anything slightly right leaning.[/QUOTE] Open your eyes. There are people defending nazis based on "it's their free speech".

[QUOTE=Foogooman;51701913]I don't understand how you can compare "let's kill minorities to make the white race strong" to "let's squash nazism before it gains a foothold" like they're equally horrible[/QUOTE] You said "squash the cockroaches," directly after asking why anyone would have a problem with a neo-nazi being phsyically assaulted. So, not only is assault acceptable when the victim is a neo-nazi, you also wish to "squash the cockroaches." (To squash a cockroach is to kill it; the metaphor is that neo-nazis need to die, or at least face severe violence, in order to quell them.) My question is, what is your plan of attack? How will you squash all these cockroaches? Clearly, you would need help. You'd need an armed force to efficiently squash these cockroaches, especially when they begin fighting back. So when will you start a militia so that you can begin squashing the cockroaches?

[QUOTE=Sombrero;51701936]Of course people are on here defending this. This forum has a massive hate boner for anything slightly right leaning.[/QUOTE] I'm not justifying the assault, but to be fair, this dude is like extremely far-right probably to the point of nazism and isn't just your ordinary conservative.

[QUOTE=Covalent;51701941]People can say the same thing about Islam.[/QUOTE] But they would be wrong because Islam is a nuanced religion with many opposing perspectives within it, ranging from peacefulness to radicalism. We can't categorically say Islam is a threat, just that radical Islam is, meaning we need to take peaceful efforts to stave off radicalism and violent efforts to kill those who are already radicalized and seek to hurt innocent people. Nazism is not a nuanced issues, all nazis are irredeemable fucks

[QUOTE=Sombrero;51701936]Of course people are on here defending this. This forum has a massive hate boner for anything slightly right leaning.[/QUOTE] "White nationalism" "[I]Slightly[/I] right-leaning" Choose one.

[QUOTE=Zombinie;51701945]Being a nazi does not mean you are irredeemable or unsavable, people can change grow and learn and we should try for that before violence.[/QUOTE] Is this going to be before or after they grill another 10 million people

[QUOTE=Foogooman;51701937]Because in Mein Kampf it would be referring to innocent people When I'm saying it I'm referring to irredeemable literal fucking nazis[/QUOTE] So let's say I grow up in Bumfuckville, Arkansas and I get homeschooled by the KKK and the Aryan Brotherhood, should I be violently beaten simply because what I believe and my opinions are trash? Or if I'm raised in a orthodox jew household in the most extreme parts of Israel and I truly believe that the jews are the chosen people and that all other humans are trash, does that give you an automatic right to punch me? Or are people here hanging way too much onto the "nazi" part here? That's what I think is happening, I dub it "reverse dog-whistling".

Honestly, to the people approving of this what the fuck is your end goal here? What, Just brutally beat everyone that is called a nazi? What if they don't change their mind, do you just keep beating them every day or do you just kill them.

[QUOTE=Sombrero;51701936]Of course people are on here defending this. This forum has a massive hate boner for anything slightly right leaning.[/QUOTE] Assaulting people isn't productive but if you call people advocating [I]actual[/I] ethnic cleansing "slightly right leaning" you're a fuckin wacko

[QUOTE=Zombinie;51701945]Being a nazi does not mean you are irredeemable or unsavable, people can change grow and learn and we should try for that before violence.[/QUOTE] If only we had simply invited the nazis to a nice meal during WW2, we could have just talked it all out :')

[QUOTE=Samiam22;51701966]Is this going to be before or after they grill another 10 million people[/QUOTE] So Richard Spencer was a part of the holocaust? Has he actually assaulted/threatened/killed someone/some people?

[QUOTE=Samiam22;51701966]Is this going to be before or after they grill another 10 million people[/QUOTE] Because being a nazi automatically means you want to exterminate all subhumans. Just like being a muslim automatically makes you a suicide bomber, and that being a socialist automatically makes you want to send political dissidents into gulags for the next 40 years.

One person punching a Nazi: wrong. Every American who is physically able punching a Nazi: The Greatest Generation

[QUOTE=Foogooman;51701975]If only we had simply invited the nazis to a nice meal during WW2, we could have just talked it all out :')[/QUOTE] If different actions had been taken in regards to Germany post-WWI I'm sure we would have seen a much different outcome, one not necessarily leading to the rise of the Nazis. so yeah you're right actually. [editline]20th January 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Foogooman;51701988]One person punching a Nazi: wrong. Every American who is physically able punching a Nazi: The Greatest Generation[/QUOTE] this is such a huge leap in logic, that ignores the fact that we were at war and that Nazi Germany was being an actual threat to the world order. What exactly has richard spencer done other than be a neo-nazi? What exactly have the Neo-Nazis in the US done recently?

I don't get how anyone can say , yeah just punch that Nazi or fascist or whatever. You get people like there are in Sweden, Group of Anti Fascists that break into Nazi/ right leaning peoples houses to break their shit and to hurt them or to accuse people of being right leaning/Nazis and hurt innocent people. I can't find the video documentation about it right now maybe someone else remembers it. You can't just hurt someone just because you disagree with them and their views even, If this person is a nazi. He can talk as much as he likes about his views, as long as said Person doesn't hurt anyone. By being that person to attack someone for their views you are actually becoming what you are against.

[QUOTE=Foogooman;51701988]One person punching a Nazi: wrong. Every American who is physically able punching a Nazi: The Greatest Generation[/QUOTE] One person punching another for having a different political opinion = Going to war because you were attacked Totally the same thing :v:

[QUOTE=Foogooman;51701975]If only we had simply invited the nazis to a nice meal during WW2, we could have just talked it all out :')[/QUOTE] So you agree that peaceful talks are out of the question, on the grounds that they are irredeemable and it wouldn't have worked in WWII. So again I ask you, how do you plan on facing the neo-nazi threat? What is your plan of attack? I'm not asking for anything unreasonable here. I'm only asking how you would execute the violence that you are currently championing against them.

[QUOTE=Skanic;51701996]I don't get how anyone can say , yeah just punch that Nazi or fascist or whatever. You get people like there are in Sweden, Group of Anti Fascists that break into Nazi/ right leaning peoples houses to break their shit and to hurt them or to accuse people of being right leaning/Nazis and hurt innocent people. I can't find the video documentation about it right now maybe someone else remembers it. You can't just hurt someone just because you disagree with them and their views even, If this person is a nazi. He can talk as much as he likes about his views, as long as said Person doesn't hurt anyone. By being that person to attack someone for their views you are actually becoming what you are against.[/QUOTE] Nazi ideals violently hurt people every day. Preaching and encouraging hate IS violence. The person who orders his soldiers to kill innocents isn't innocent himself simply because they themselves didn't hurt anyone