Nightmare House 2 Complete walkthrough (For pussies.) - General

[QUOTE=Dr. Punchgroin;24333511][sp]what's the chapter where the shadow people in the hallway come in?[/sp] Been bugging me cause I want to show a friend[/QUOTE] Operation.

[QUOTE=Calasmere;24335669]Yes. I'm a troll because I have a differing opinion to you. Could you get much more obnoxious?[/QUOTE] You're bashing a free mod, what do you except some fucking wonder of the world or something? God, gamers these days and their "opinions".

[QUOTE=Nelth;24335912]You're bashing a free mod, what do you except some fucking wonder of the world or something? God, gamers these days and their "opinions".[/QUOTE] I said, it's good, but the scares are LAAAAAAME. Someone earlier in this thread said 'The creators of nightmare house have a good future in game design.', when there is nothing AMAZING about the design. It's a good mod that obviously took time, and I enjoyed it, but holy shit, the scares are lame, repetitive and predictable. There is no tension, there is just loud noises and flashing images. Also, calling me a troll for my posts is just retarded. Troll might be slang, but it still has a definition. People seem to think 'you are disagreeing with me. Troll!'. Although this is more prominent among 12 year old boys, I would have expected better of Facepunch.

Stop pointless arguing, people have opinions and you got to respect them no matter what. I'm agreeing with Nelth that what the hell you are expecting from a free mod but anyway. I'm uploading the fifth part now and then sixth and the final part.

[QUOTE=Calasmere;24335669]Yes. I'm a troll because I have a differing opinion to you. Could you get much more obnoxious?[/QUOTE] You said your opinion like it was sensed to be the truth for you. I respect the fact you wasn't afraid, the scares were weak, etc... but it's just your vision of this mod

[QUOTE=Calasmere;24335951]I said, it's good, but the scares are LAAAAAAME. Someone earlier in this thread said 'The creators of nightmare house have a good future in game design.', when there is nothing AMAZING about the design. It's a good mod that obviously took time, and I enjoyed it, but holy shit, the scares are lame, repetitive and predictable. There is no tension, there is just loud noises and flashing images.[/QUOTE] I would argue with you some more but I see you don't see the point of games. Anyway, can't wait till you upload them all.

[QUOTE=ADT;24336095]You said your opinion like it was sensed to be the truth for you. I respect the fact you wasn't afraid, the scares were weak, etc... but it's just your vision of this mod[/QUOTE] It is an opinion, but it is right. Can't you just understand that the scares are cheap? How can you not see that? Even in F.E.A.R., it was all just little girls with creepy voices and delusions, there is no genuine psychological fear, just temporary fear of seeing something pop up then some static playing. F.E.A.R. did do it better though. But yeah, free mod, I'm not entitled to anything, but I can still criticize it. [editline]01:07PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Nelth;24336115]I would argue with you some more but I see you don't see the point of games. Anyway, can't wait till you upload them all.[/QUOTE] How do I not see the point of games...? Are you sure you don't just lack any actual counter-argument? Yeah. I think that's probably it.

[QUOTE=Calasmere;24336133]It is an opinion, but it is right. Can't you just understand that the scares are cheap? How can you not see that? Even in F.E.A.R., it was all just little girls with creepy voices and delusions, there is no genuine psychological fear, just temporary fear of seeing something pop up then some static playing. F.E.A.R. did do it better though. But yeah, free mod, I'm not entitled to anything, but I can still criticize it.[/QUOTE] You seem to be so sure about non-cheap horror so tell us what is it?

[QUOTE=SlayerFin;24336161]You seem to be so sure about non-cheap horror so tell us what is it?[/QUOTE] Non-cheap horror? Silent Hill 2. It has atmosphere, immersion.

[QUOTE=Calasmere;24336201]Non-cheap horror? Silent Hill 2. It has atmosphere, immersion.[/QUOTE] I have played SH1, SH2, SH3, SH4 and SH: Homecoming and guess what, for me Silent Hill 2 was the most boring and non-scary. It was actually hilarious in some parts. But let's get back to the topic!

[QUOTE=SlayerFin;24336249]I have played SH1, SH2, SH3, SH4 and SH: Homecoming and guess what, for me Silent Hill 2 was the most boring and non-scary. It was actually hilarious in some parts. But let's get back to the topic![/QUOTE] This just in; you have no taste in video games!

[QUOTE=Calasmere;24336332]This just in; you have no taste in video games![/QUOTE] It's an [I]opinion [/I]and now stop derailing the thread. Talk about NH2, not about other video games.

[QUOTE=SlayerFin;24336468]It's an [I]opinion [/I]and now stop derailing the thread. Talk about NH2, not about other video games.[/QUOTE] The thread has to be exclusively about NH2? Are we not allowed to discuss video games and everything in a broad sense? Oh, sorry, I forgot I was in a Nazi concentration camp, Führer.

[QUOTE=Calasmere;24336511]The thread has to be exclusively about NH2? Are we not allowed to discuss video games and everything in a broad sense? Oh, sorry, I forgot I was in a Nazi concentration camp, Führer.[/QUOTE] It's called offtop, and it's bannable.

[QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;24320803]The creators of nightmare house have a good future in game design.[/QUOTE] Agreed. This really emulated a horror movie perfectly, it was a fantastic mod. I probably would have paid for something this high quality.

Well I kinda do agree with Calasmere, Here's a sort of a review, and remember I know it's free but I have the right to criticize it, for playing it takes time, time of which I'd rather not have wasted. I've played a lot of horror games, some of the ones that use really true fear rather than cheap scares was probably Penumbra, and a couple of the Silent Hills, and maybe one of the first Resident Evils, this mod introduces nothing new into the horror orientated gaming world, it is fun, but not very scary, and has a very predictable storyline. I knew from the start the moment I saw [sp]the Doctor that he was a bad guy, well cause he bitches at me saying that I must have a gun to survive, or an axe, it's waay to dangerous in here etc.. but he himself doesn't have a single drop of blood on him nor does he seem to be carrying any weapons,[/sp] I don't know if this was a clever trick of foreshortening or just a detail they failed to notice. The scares were very cheap, after the first few zombies get up and start slashing at you once you pass them, it becomes a routine, even on hard there is no real sense of danger, it's all cinematography, hallways slowmotion as a woman walks across the screen- ooooh.. If she were to start running at you, screaming about to kill you and you'd have to run away cause your bullets don't affect her, then I'd be scared, because then there'd be a sense of danger, then the next time you'd hear her crying in another room or see her shadow in a room or soemthing, you'd shit your pants and be too scared to go into that room knowing she's there waiting for you. I'm not scared if she just pops up infront of my face looking at me for 12 milliseconds and leaves, so now if I see her shadow in a room, I'd probably just bunny hop into the room happily and I know that everything would go into slow mo she'd look at me and disappear or something. And everytime I'm walking through a corridor or a vent or soemthing, I'm always ready for something to break and jump out of nowhere, cause after the first few times it happens, again it becomes a routine, then by the time 50% of the game is done, all the tricks have been played, and the style of the game is imprinted in my head, oh look a narrow corridor, I'm in slow motion, I wonder what's going to happen next. oooh she appeared infront of me now the door is gone, what must I do, turn around okay, the door is over there now. There is no real sense of harm in this game other than the zombies. The most scary thing about the game were the "fast zombies?". In real life what do we fear, we fear the unknown because we feel as though it will bring us harm, and harm brings us closer to death, we fear death. In a game where nothing besides zombies that you can empty a double barrel shotgun into can bring you harm, then there is no reason to fear, other than a loss of bullets. It was a very nicely constructed mod, I enjoyed it, but all their ideas of horror were just cheap pop out of the dark scare thrills, nothing was really scary.

[QUOTE=qwerty000;24336568]It's called offtop, and it's bannable.[/QUOTE] 'Offtop'...? Do you mean off topic? You think people are going to get banned because we're talking about things? Jesus christ, take off the tinfoil hat.

[QUOTE=Calasmere;24336332]This just in; you have no taste in video games![/QUOTE] You started off with a valid opinion that could be respected, but you fail to provide the respect towards the authors that is due for allowing you to play a free game and now you're just discrediting other people's opinions.

[QUOTE=Masem;24336749]You started off with a valid opinion that could be respected, but you fail to provide the respect towards the authors that is due for allowing you to play a free game and now you're just discrediting other people's opinions.[/QUOTE] I said I enjoyed it. I apologize for getting aggressive and whatnot, but I stick by the fear in this game being cheap and boring. I do not see how it can be seen as something is truly scary. As someone stated above, zombies don't make me flinch, they are not a fearsome enemies. F.E.A.R. had the typical run of the mill shooting marines crap, but it had some actually scary enemies. [editline]01:50PM[/editline] [QUOTE=theLazyLion;24336733]The scares were very cheap, after the first few zombies get up and start slashing at you once you pass them, it becomes a routine, even on hard there is no real sense of danger, it's all cinematography, hallways slowmotion as a woman walks across the screen- ooooh.. If she were to start running at you, screaming about to kill you and you'd have to run away cause your bullets don't affect her, then I'd be scared, because then there'd be a sense of danger. I'm not scared if she just pops up infront of my face looking at me for 12 milliseconds and leaves. And everytime I'm walking through a corridor or a vent or soemthing, I'm always ready for something to break and jump out of nowhere, cause after the first few times it happens, again it becomes a routine, then by the time 50% of the game is done, all the tricks have been played, and the style of the game is imprinted in my head, oh look a narrow corridor, I'm in slow motion, I wonder what's going to happen next. oooh she appeared infront of me now the door is gone, what must I do, turn around okay, the door is over there now..[/QUOTE] This was my biggest gripe with the game. It gets old fast, and it isn't anything that takes some amazing skill to make in a video game. The frequency in it happening is stupid too. See a skeleton in a vent? Get ready for it to be dragged away, thrown at you, or you getting slapped by nothing. It only makes the stale formula worse when the whole thing has been done several times in FEAR and Condemned.

[QUOTE=Calasmere;24336201]Non-cheap horror? Silent Hill 2. It has atmosphere, immersion.[/QUOTE] I think someone watches too much Yahtzee.

[QUOTE=cyclocius;24336829]I think someone watches too much Yahtzee.[/QUOTE] Sorry, what? I watch most of his new releases, but I don't take anything he says seriously, he's a comedian more than a reviewer. I can't ever even remember him mentioning Silent Hill 2 recently.

Calasmere is so fucking ignorant, good god I'm really starting to think he's just trolling. Can you be anymore dense? How can be a horror game called a horror game without cheap scares? Also, telling somebody that you have bad taste in games makes you look pretty retarded, people have OPINIONS and yes I would respect your opinion if you wouldn't be so fucking dense and would stop bashing NH and every game that has cheap scares (SILENT HILL INCLUDING).

[QUOTE=Nelth;24336948]Calasmere is so fucking ignorant, good god I'm really starting to think he's just trolling. Can you be anymore dense? How can be a horror game called a horror game without cheap scares? Also, telling somebody that you have bad taste in games makes you look pretty retarded, people have OPINIONS and yes I would respect your opinion if you wouldn't be so fucking dense and would stop bashing NH and every game that has cheap scares (SILENT HILL INCLUDING).[/QUOTE] he's starting to make a better argument than you pal. the silent hill series has never really been about twitch scares, more about atmosphere and mindfuckery. the fear doesn't so much come from worrying about what scare will come next as much as it is the fear of being alone in an oppressive environment, weighing down on your psyche more than alma's little houdini routine ever will and I don't think I could count on my fingers how many times the "see a corpse, approach, corpse is pulled out of the way"

[QUOTE=Nelth;24336948]Calasmere is so fucking ignorant, good god I'm really starting to think he's just trolling. Can you be anymore dense? How can be a horror game called a horror game without cheap scares? Also, telling somebody that you have bad taste in games makes you look pretty retarded, people have OPINIONS and yes I would respect your opinion if you wouldn't be so fucking dense and would stop bashing NH and every game that has cheap scares (SILENT HILL INCLUDING).[/QUOTE] Look at Silent Hill 2? Cheap scares with bodies being dragged away or sharp noises? NOPE. You can think I'm a troll all you want, but hey, don't get mad because my opinion is backed up by reviews and people who have good taste in video games. Also, I didn't bash Silent Hill. Have you actually read what I said? Also, I can bash games with poor game design, regardless of whether it's a mod or not. I'm allowed to criticize.

[QUOTE=Nelth;24336948]Calasmere is so fucking ignorant, good god I'm really starting to think he's just trolling. Can you be anymore dense? How can be a horror game called a horror game without cheap scares? Also, telling somebody that you have bad taste in games makes you look pretty retarded, people have OPINIONS and yes I would respect your opinion if you wouldn't be so fucking dense and would stop bashing NH and every game that has cheap scares (SILENT HILL INCLUDING).[/QUOTE] True that most horror games do have cheap scares every now and then to spice things up, but it's kinda pointless when all the game/mod can provide are just cheap pop out scares.

expecting scares pulls you out of a real experience, and really ends up being more like a bunch of kids telling scary stories and passing around a flash light horror that decides to take the mature route of dropping the cheap tricks must instead rely on the immersion factor, bringing the player so far into the experience that the game can really fiddle with the player's head.

You don't like NH2. We get it. Now stop wasting your time talking about something you don't like and prehaps move on elsewhere to discuss something you do like. Prehaps the twilight forums would be a good place to start.

I quit, if you like to compare a Half Life 2 mod to a game like Silent Hill okay, my point being is that it's just a mod which has limits. I know it's more rewarding having a creepy atmosphere and mindfucks but it doesn't shock you as much as having something pop up in your face. I lay down.

Game lays it on thick is what is being said. But yeah, There needs to be some more danger. there's a lot of slow mo and bitches popping in and out and stuff like that but there's no real times when I was actually in danger. [editline]01:56PM[/editline] Not that the devs could give a fuck. I read a comment saying they'd like to drop this shit off and never look at it again.

[QUOTE=Nelth;24336948]Calasmere is so fucking ignorant, good god I'm really starting to think he's just trolling. Can you be anymore dense? How can be a horror game called a horror game without cheap scares? Also, telling somebody that you have bad taste in games makes you look pretty retarded, people have OPINIONS and yes I would respect your opinion if you wouldn't be so fucking dense and would stop bashing NH and every game that has cheap scares (SILENT HILL INCLUDING).[/QUOTE] How can an action movie be called an action movie if the main character isn't an unlikable douche and the action isn't completely incomprehensible?