Gay Chat V11 - Were you expecting something funny? - General

On a side note, I'm glad the 80+ guests are gone and we just have a few newbies here now. Makes it feel like a new season of a show with new guests as opposed to being live with everyone watching. Also I'm learning French again yey

[QUOTE=Catscratch;43724529]Australia's nice and I love to visit it, too but I'd much rather visit the UK. I've always wanted to visit the UK. Especially now that I'd have a place to stay with a certain awesome person. Most everything about the UK interests me though and [I]has[/I] interested me for the past several years. Man I wish I could live there. Sorry to hear about your predicament, though Tomo :L[/QUOTE] Why would you want to come here, its dirty, over crowded and expensive. Only pros we have is free healthcare and we tell the time in bongs.

Tomo I have to ask something, why do you want to move to America? Not that I have anything against America and really want to visit, but moreso the fact living in Australia will mean a much easier life in terms of income and such. Why not help her to get over to Australia? While yes, I understand that you don't like the climate here (I don't either), but, you have got to think more than just the climate. Just my 2 cents on that. I'm actually considering getting a ticket to Australia for a close friend of mine in America. [QUOTE=Reagy;43724728]Why would you want to come here, its dirty, over crowded and expensive. Only pros we have is free healthcare and we tell the time in bongs.[/QUOTE] I quite liked the UK when I was over there last time, although as you said, it was expensive.

This isn't just for couples btw my sister and her best friend from elementary school stopped talking for months. They moved in together and after a year or so kept arguing about petty shit her friend moved out.

[QUOTE=Reagy;43724728]Why would you want to come here, its dirty, over crowded and expensive. Only pros we have is free healthcare and we tell the time in bongs.[/QUOTE] Depends where. If you're a tourist you're not going to visit the shitty residential areas in some random English town. I've led a groups of mostly people visiting the UK around some parts of Scotland and they loved it. I love the UK because Scotland. [editline]30th January 2014[/editline] No to independence, by the way.

[QUOTE=Reagy;43724728]Why would you want to come here, its dirty, over crowded and expensive. Only pros we have is free healthcare and we tell the time in bongs.[/QUOTE] Healthcare, the people, the culture, it just seems great. A lot of great friends I've had online have been from the U.K. I kept looking at Southampton but after what it's been rated as I was thinkin' Crawley or Andover. I always get biased comments though from peopel who hate living in the UK as a whole lmfao.

[QUOTE=Roll_Program;43724748]I love the UK because Scotland.[/QUOTE] #VoteYES What are your thoughts on that anyway. I don't know which way I'll vote yet, but I figure voting Yes would be more interesting. [editline]30th January 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Roll_Program;43724748]No to independence, by the way.[/QUOTE] Oh, there it is. I'm not sure yet of which way to go with my vote. I'm waiting until the last week before going to see what people are saying. I'm not going to pretend I know how government works.

Scotland and their economy of exporting uhhhh Stuff

Voting yes is the one way ticket to bankrupting/getting a massive debt for Scotland as there is little making money other than the oil and gas which if Scotland goes independent, will be completely retracted from their access and kept by UK, because we own it. I guess not many people know about that little clause in the independence agreement that was written up.

UK master race south east coastal town represent

Woo UK, where in the north east were all poverty stricken and hate anyone not from here. Especially southerners. Damn southerners. (actually it's terrible and rainy and i like this country for some reason)

[QUOTE=HeavyGuy;43724974]where in the north east were all poverty stricken and hate anyone not from here.[/QUOTE] North east? Pffft north west is just as bad.

[QUOTE=Reagy;43724993]North east? Pffft north west is just as bad.[/QUOTE] Wow. I didn't know there was a North West to be fair anything except here and London is alien to me. I haven't been anywhere else in the country or the world :v:

Free health care is a good incentive for an american. Since our health care system blows chunks.

[QUOTE=Reagy;43724924]Voting yes is the one way ticket to bankrupting/getting a massive debt for Scotland as there is little making money other than the oil and gas which if Scotland goes independent, will be completely retracted from their access and kept by UK, because we own it. I guess not many people know about that little clause in the independence agreement that was written up.[/QUOTE] Got a link to that independence agreement? Good place for me to start forming an opinion.

help heavy guy is being mean [img]http://i.imgur.com/I0oHXSl.png[/img]

[QUOTE=Vilusia;43725065]help heavy guy is being mean [img]http://i.imgur.com/I0oHXSl.png[/img][/QUOTE] Better give it to him. He's a bad bitch.

I'm a lover not a fighter :C

[QUOTE=Teto;43725033]Got a link to that independence agreement? Good place for me to start forming an opinion.[/QUOTE] I can try finding it but the whole thing is kinda being kept away hidden, there's only little parts of it that has been opened up to the public and that whole gas and oil thing I only know about because of there being a couple of reports related to energy companies and who manages those mining operations. The Scottish government at the moment contracts them out on the behalf of the English government to these energy companies. Its really fucking weird the whole independence thing, I just don't see why other that the whole "RAWR PATRIOTISM FREEDOM" and silly shit. It has no real pros to it other than allows your government to push out its own laws without having the English government review them. You've already got your own variant of the Pound Sterling, Scotland is already seen as its own state internationally much like Wales and Northern Ireland. Its like we can't please you enough. :v:

[QUOTE=Teto;43724818]#VoteYES What are your thoughts on that anyway. I don't know which way I'll vote yet, but I figure voting Yes would be more interesting. [editline]30th January 2014[/editline] Oh, there it is. I'm not sure yet of which way to go with my vote. I'm waiting until the last week before going to see what people are saying. I'm not going to pretend I know how government works.[/QUOTE] If it wasn't for Loch Morlich and the Cairngorms being so close (2~ hour drive) I don't know how I'd cope. I seriously love that place on a summer day, big sandy lake beach by a beautiful forest next to the mountains. [t]http://i.imgur.com/ZjuFR3U.jpg[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/aRNANdR.jpg[/t]

Found some references for you. [url]http://www.scotland.gov.uk/About/Government/concordats/Referendum-on-independence[/url] [url]http://www.scotreferendum.com/[/url] [editline]30th January 2014[/editline] Oh jesus maybe I should have looked a bit better at the 2nd one, it's biased to fuck.

The plan if Scotland does go independent is so ridiculous. Salmond only made it up to get votes to secure his seat in power, then when the economy falls because of it, he'll just resign and laugh all the way to the bank.

[QUOTE=Roll_Program;43725136]The plan if Scotland does go independent is so ridiculous. Salmond only made it up to get votes to secure his seat in power, then when the economy falls because of it, he'll just resign and laugh all the way to the bank.[/QUOTE] I don't really follow the political matters but from the way its been tooted about so much it really does sound like that's what he's after. Scotland can't support its self long term without help and currently its getting that help from being part of the UK which for some reason they appear to hate to admit, I don't really get why. It's like lib dem's and the whole we're gonna cut uni fees all over again.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I nearly forgot to confirm I could attend a therapy appointment for tomorrow.

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[QUOTE=Reagy;43725166]I don't really follow the political matters but from the way its been tooted about so much it really does sound like that's what he's after. Scotland can't support its self long term without help and currently its getting that help from being part of the UK which for some reason they appear to hate to admit, I don't really get why. It's like lib dem's and the whole we're gonna cut uni fees all over again.[/QUOTE] I'm swayed by what you're saying, but I don't know for sure whether that's bias coming from someone who focuses on reasons against the referendum, or because they're actually valid points. I see a lot of people who say "Scotland can get by on their own" and lots who say "Scotland have nothing and won't get by on their own." Equally, while you say that Scotland hate to admit that they need the help, someone might say that you hate to admit that Scotland might do okay by itself. Everybody's saying "We can" or "You/We can't" but nobody is telling me why? Where are the numbers? Who are your sources? Hearsay or research? Which view is being manipulated by the parties concerned with getting their way? Probably both, to an extent, with the real truth lying in the dark mysterious void of consequence that exists between the utopian and dystopian pictures painted by the Yes and No campaigners respectively. Politics is just always a load of cheaters and liars trying to manipulate public opinion by overstating the pros and cons. Making promises of wills and won'ts. The question we're being asked here is whether we want to be run by one shower of bastards or another. For me; in the upper corner of an area spanning near half the country, referred to simply as "Highland" while the more south you go, the more places that are considered in more specific depth; it's a question of whether I want to be ruled by people in the south of England, or people in Glasgow and Edinburgh. So for me, in a way, it doesn't matter who I'm voting for; South of England or South of Scotland; things probably wont change much where I am, because we're the kind of place you build a nuclear power station because if it blows up you won't kill [I]too [/I]many people (less than 5 minutes from my house, though deactivated now). So yeah, it's really a question of what resources for growth we'll have if we vote Yes, and how much power we have over the money we do get, and then for me whether or not we'll even see much of it. I can imagine a government more based in Scotland will care more about my area, but then again if the money is less, maybe it won't even make a difference that we're getting a better cut. There's also this idea that peoples' morale and national pride will increase, and that that will make up for any shortfalls. But then again, if it did start going south (so to speak), the doom and gloom of the press will fill people with enough regret and ill-feelings that it'd cancel out any potential good vibes that'd come of independence. This idea feels less like a reason than an excuse, conjured up to fill in the gaps in the Yes reasoning. So right now, I'm somewhere between Yes and No. If I voted Yes, it would be a roll of the dice, and if I voted No, it would be out of caution. Doesn't help that the local SNP representative is on my Facebook friend's list, and that my oldest brother is very much a Yes man. Then again, my second oldest brother is in Greece, so I can rest assured that no matter how bad it gets financially, he's got it worse.

I'd vote no just for the loss of UK culture alone.

[QUOTE=Roll_Program;43725524]I'd vote no just for the loss of UK culture alone.[/QUOTE] In all honesty, No would be my answer. I don't think the country is in bad enough a way for people to start thinking about changing things. It's not a dire enough state yet for there to be any reason to want to make any big decisions. Mostly I feel like any idea to vote yes would just be prejudice and social pressure for me. And on top of that, some vague forced faith that the country will prosper for it. I'm more for No. I want to be sure that I have conviction in my answer before I start to say I'm for No or Yes, because if I went and voted No, then I'd have people to answer to and "im scared" wouldn't impress them, since they really drive for Yes. I want to at least have a respectable opinion, but so far all I see is bias and no good evidence. Also, lastly, as a question at you, would we even lose UK culture? And what is 'UK culture' anyway?

[QUOTE=Teto;43725653]In all honesty, No would be my answer. I don't think the country is in bad enough a way for people to start thinking about changing things. It's not a dire enough state yet for there to be any reason to want to make any big decisions. Mostly I feel like any idea to vote yes would just be prejudice and social pressure for me. And on top of that, some vague forced faith that the country will prosper for it. I'm more for No. I want to be sure that I have conviction in my answer before I start to say I'm for No or Yes, because if I went and voted No, then I'd have people to answer to and "im scared" wouldn't impress them, since they really drive for Yes. I want to at least have a respectable opinion, but so far all I see is bias and no good evidence. Also, lastly, as a question at you, would we even lose UK culture? And what is 'UK culture' anyway?[/QUOTE] You're right, there's no single culture which extends across Britain.

I slowly am realizing that I'm not anti social nor do I have social anexity. Hmmm guess I've just been away from other people for so long that I thought that I was like that.