Are you telling me that after all these years, they're still not done rolling out tasers to at least every other officer?
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;48325323]This is why officers here in the US have a minimum distance to keep from armed suspects at all times, you have to assume that since they have a weapon they will attempt to use it, and keep enough distance to be able to react in time to save yourself.
That being said, that was some very impressive work on the part of the officers here, they split up to watch the flanks and kited around him to avoid being struck, they were in complete control of the situation.[/QUOTE]
What if the suspect carries a halberd?
Gotta love the "if this were 'Murricuh..." Youtube comments.
The cops had no obligation to not shoot the fucker. If you lunge at a cop with a knife or any dangerous weapon, expect to be shot. Needless to say, they handled the situation very well.
Well, defending yourself against a knife attack is pretty hard from what I've heard. When I was in the draft here in Norway, they wouldn't teach us how to and just told us to run instead, especially when someone holds the knife like the guy in the video. Even our instructor would never use it in a real scenario.
This was like close-combat elementary though. Basic takedowns, punches, all that, and finding all the rage you have inside you when you need it and letting it go when you're done.
[QUOTE=kazookie;48341265]Well, defending yourself against a knife attack is pretty hard from what I've heard. When I was in the draft here in Norway, they wouldn't teach us how to and just told us to run instead, especially when someone holds the knife like the guy in the video. Even our instructor would never use it in a real scenario.
This was like close-combat elementary though. Basic takedowns, punches, all that, and finding all the rage you have inside you when you need it and letting it go when you're done.[/QUOTE]
Knife wielding maniacs. The key to my flawless invasion of Norway which sees their army turn and flee in terror
People on facebook are all jacking off about this video and how in America the guy would be dead. Those officers were just lucky the guy wasn't high out of his mind on drugs, then their equipment probably wouldn't have helped very much.
[QUOTE=spekter;48327954]If they were alerted that he had a gun then it would be armed response.[/QUOTE]
A knife also falls under SO19 response. If they knew or suspected a knife then these 2 bobbies would not have been the first to confront him. According to police procedure that is, but shit kinda goes out the window when it's a real siuation.
[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;48328013]and how long would it take for armed police to arrive, and then look for him as most likely they would run/hide.[/QUOTE]
armed response is pretty fucking fast from actual experience
I was mugged once at gunpoint, me and my friends called the police and within about 2-3 minutes we had about 2 standard police cars and a armed response vehicle on the scene. Say what you want about the police here but they do their job really well
[QUOTE=butre;48328683]Training accident: 2[/QUOTE]
thats pretty scary that police officers have died during training exercises.
someone holding a knife pointing downwards is especially scary because it guards their wrist from being grabbed and controlled.
[QUOTE=TheNerdPest14;48325150]Had this been the USA, he'd be dead in a second after he refused to comply.[/QUOTE]
And in this case, I'd have no problem with that.
It's actually debatable whether or not a gun would be good in this kind of situations.
I mean, yeah, officer probably wouldnt be in such a risk, but look at this situation, nobody died, and every life is valuable as all fuck. We dont know what drove the criminal to do criminal shit, and if you ask me, it's better to give violent criminals help rather than a bullet.
[QUOTE=Nifae;48325133]I'd be very afraid to be an officer of the law in the UK. I would not feel safe performing my duties without a firearm. One or both of these officers could've been killed, as spray is useless against certain people who are in adrenaline rushes for example.[/QUOTE]
Except that the police the UK are both equipped and trained to be able to deal with these situations without the need of a firearm. The last police officer to be killed by being stabbed in the UK was in 2007.
you guys are right, shit the police can't do their jobs without firearms and they got lucky in this situation
that's why this is a video of one of the few successful arrests in the mad-max style hellzone that is the united kingdom
[QUOTE=TheNerdPest14;48325150]Had this been the USA, he'd be dead in a second after he refused to comply.[/QUOTE]
Which just goes to show that the answer isn't blowing everything away America fuck yeah style.
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[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;48347142]you guys are right, shit the police can't do their jobs without firearms and they got lucky in this situation
that's why this is a video of one of the few successful arrests in the mad-max style hellzone that is the united kingdom[/QUOTE]
They don't need guns. Tasers would be effective.
[QUOTE=Sungrazer;48347166]Which just goes to show that the answer isn't blowing everything away America fuck yeah style.
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They don't need guns. Tasers would be effective.[/QUOTE]
Tasers aren't as effective during winter, when people are wearing multiple layers of thick clothes. Also sometimes the tasers fail to stop the threat, due to sheer adrenaline
[QUOTE=TheNerdPest14;48325150]Had this been the USA, he'd be dead in a second after he refused to comply.[/QUOTE]
Well... Yeah. A lawful order to STOP TRYING TO STAB SOMEONE being ignored and continuing to try doing it is justification for lethal force
[QUOTE=TheTalon;48347666]Well... Yeah. A lawful order to STOP TRYING TO STAB SOMEONE being ignored and continuing to try doing it is justification for lethal force[/QUOTE]
I think the point that he is trying to make is that in the USA, lethal force is too quickly accepted as the fall-back option when someone fails to comply. In the UK, lethal force is reserved for extreme cases - and overall this works well.
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