[QUOTE=Demache;28867833]He may be right.
But there are always those people that take his side to the extreme. They look into any film and find some of the most bizarre theories and try to get them to relate to the real world, and its just like, "WHAT?" and makes absolutely no sense to anyone except the person that came up with it. (run-on)[/QUOTE]
If by 'taking his side to the extreme' you're suggesting that lots of proper cultural analysis leads to irrelevant crackpot theories, then you're wrong. If you're talking about people who are more fixed on finding bizarre correlations between movies and reality than doing proper research, then they can not be equated with the guy in the op, as th89 clarified earlier.
Sometimes people are just over reaching with the analyzing though. Take the "Lion from Narnia is Jesus" thing. The only thing he practically had in common with Jesus is that he died. Perhaps sacrificed.
And sometimes the film gives insight it wasn't supposed to. Take 2001, 45 years later and it gives some insight regarding people in the mid 20th century and how they thought or speculated the next millennium would be. While actually back then it provided insight on how advanced we might be in 2001.
[QUOTE=Hotespresso;28872265]Sometimes people are just over reaching with the analyzing though. Take the "Lion from Narnia is Jesus" thing. The only thing he practically had in common with Jesus is that he died. Perhaps sacrificed.[/QUOTE]
C. S. Lewis was a devout Christian and made the comparison between Jesus and Aslan himself
I assume Rusty will want to shag this man.
[editline]29th March 2011[/editline]
There is a limit, for instance it got incredibly silly when people were sifting through trying to find out if Cobbs was still in the dream. It was MEANT to be for lack of a better phrase, an uncertain ending
[QUOTE=Hotespresso;28872265]Sometimes people are just over reaching with the analyzing though. Take the "Lion from Narnia is Jesus" thing. The only thing he practically had in common with Jesus is that he died. Perhaps sacrificed.[/QUOTE]
This is exactly the kind of thing I was talking about in the OP. It's well established among anyone who knows about literature that Narnia has intentional Christian allegories. It's not a tenuous conclusion, nor is it controversial.
Just because you can't see the connection doesn't mean people who can't are imagining it. If you don't know how to solve a math problem and someone else does, does that mean they made up the answer?
[QUOTE=Droogie;28871865]If by 'taking his side to the extreme' you're suggesting that lots of proper cultural analysis leads to irrelevant crackpot theories, then you're wrong. If you're talking about people who are more fixed on finding bizarre correlations between movies and reality than doing proper research, then they can not be equated with the guy in the op, as th89 clarified earlier.[/QUOTE]
Well obviously if they can back it up, then I'm okay with that. I just wanted to state my opinion on the latter.
I never said the guy was one of those people.
This man is a martyr. Seriously. If i get lambasted, EVER, For claiming a movie, game, or book is shit because i didn't like it and will never like it and going down to a novel-like detail of why it sucks, how it sucks, when it sucks, and how it will always suck,
[b]I
Will
[u]SCREAM[/u][/b]
avatar was terrible all over for me. the only good part was when they bombed the tree and ripley in general even though her character was annoying.
The worst sort of people are the ones that say movies like Transformers are immune to criticism and analysis, because they're "popcorn movies".
I liked the matrix sequels.
[QUOTE=TH89;28830464]What do you guys think? Is it valid to critique art as a part of a broader social context? Can a "simple movie" still provide unintentional insight into the time and culture from whence it came?[/QUOTE]
I think that for sure. Rationally, you can isolate parts of art, emotionally it is impossible. Without context there is no significance.
Here's a good one
"ITS DUMB AND FUN YOU JUST DONT GET IT ITS ENTERTAINING"
perfect example is this entire thread
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/976740-Sucker-Punch[/url]
why not criticize art? enjoyment of something and the ability to criticize it are not mutually exclusive
I think going beyond face value with all art is good brain exercise
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