• 70 Years Since Pearl Harbor
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[QUOTE=Soleeedus;33619810][IMG]http://gregbellmedia.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/Harry-Morgan.jpg[/IMG] rip harry morgan[/QUOTE] I thought that was Bela Bartok for a second.
Japan is the demons
[QUOTE=Man Without Hat;33619545]Because nobody gives a fuck about pearl harbour anymore.[/QUOTE] Your an idiot, these are men who fought and died for tons of damn people and I'm pretty sure the least they want is to be remembered for their sacrifice. So if you fought and served your country and died while doing so you would want people to look back at what you did and go "LOL who the fuck cares anymore XD" My point of sarcasm on the last page was that sure Pearl Harbour was horrible but we should keep all this really till November 11 as there are tons of horrible battles that happened throughout WWI and II and if we make one for Pearl Harbour we might as well make one for them all on their appropriate dates which would be pretty dumb, which is why we should just keep it all to November 11.
lol, Pearl Harbour.
[QUOTE=Yahnich;33622257]oh america[/QUOTE] At least he used the word 'help'. Are telling me that we would have won the war if the US hadn't got involved? (If you think you know the answer to this, I'd like to see your magical parallel timeline viewing machine) If pearl harbour hadn't happened, the US probably wouldn't have got involved any more than they already were and history would be different. Nobody knows how it would be different, but I'm sure the war would have been longer for one thing.
[QUOTE=Yahnich;33622257]oh america[/QUOTE] It's ok to be jealous of AMURIKA. Not everyone can be as great as us and win at everything. You name and we win at it. Sports, wars, obesity. No one can beat AMURIKA! We're a country of WINNERS!
[QUOTE=timman;33620264]Because those people died in the line of duty and for their country. They sacrificed their lives to protect us, I think they deserve our respects for doing such an honorable thing.[/QUOTE] They definitely didn't die protecting me. Nor you, if you want to be pedantic. You weren't even born. What I'm saying is that it has been a long time. The event itself should be merged with the remembrance of the entire war, not separate. [QUOTE=bobsynergy;33621718]Your an idiot, these are men who fought and died for tons of damn people and I'm pretty sure the least they want is to be remembered for their sacrifice. So if you fought and served your country and died while doing so you would want people to look back at what you did and go "LOL who the fuck cares anymore XD" My point of sarcasm on the last page was that sure Pearl Harbour was horrible but we should keep all this really till November 11 as there are tons of horrible battles that happened throughout WWI and II and if we make one for Pearl Harbour we might as well make one for them all on their appropriate dates which would be pretty dumb, which is why we should just keep it all to November 11.[/QUOTE] If for some reason, I wanted to join the army, and I died in action; I wouldn't care. I'm dead, what good is being remembered for dying in action going to do me now? Sure, remember Nov 11. That truly did affect the way all of our countries work today. Pearl harbour didn't.
[QUOTE=st0rmforce;33624979]At least he used the word 'help'. Are telling me that we would have won the war if the US hadn't got involved? (If you think you know the answer to this, I'd like to see your magical parallel timeline viewing machine)[/QUOTE] Yes, most of Europe would have just been lead by communists till very late.
[QUOTE=Man Without Hat;33625705] If for some reason, I wanted to join the army, and I died in action; I wouldn't care. I'm dead, what good is being remembered for dying in action going to do me now? Sure, remember Nov 11. That truly did affect the way all of our countries work today. Pearl harbour didn't.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure Pearl Harbor sparked WWII, for the United States at least. When WWII was in action, a LOT of women took over the workplace and replaced men who were serving. That definitely changed the way our country "worked". There were tons or shortages and rationing. There was a lot less food in the country due to us sending it to the soldiers fighting in Europe and the Pacific. We did that with gasoline too. We lost tons of workers and men, which means the US had to find replacements. People loss their family members. Japanese Americans lost their families and homes in Japan due to the atomic bomb. That would have never happened if it weren't for Pearl Harbor. A lot of Japanese Americans were also thrown into work camps and denied rights in the US. It definitely helped women's rights because like I said, they had to replace the men. Don't forget the baby boom after the war was over and the men returned home. After all of that, I think it's pretty safe to say that Pearl Harbor affected our country. Of course, I'm speaking solely for the United States. Plenty of other countries in Europe were terribly affected by WWII. They had been fighting since 1939, two whole years before we were. We were neutral and planned on staying that way, until Japan decided to get us involved.
[QUOTE=jbthekid;33629250]I'm pretty sure Pearl Harbor sparked WWII.[/QUOTE] Huh?
[QUOTE=Patroclus Rex;33630088]Huh?[/QUOTE] Just edited it. It sparked WWII for the US, not Europe. It was how the US became part of the fight.
[QUOTE=timman;33619132]Why was the OP rated so many dumbs?[/QUOTE] Because of idiots and trolls.
[QUOTE=MedicmanV500;33630149]Because of idiots and trolls.[/QUOTE] And the japs.
[QUOTE=Man Without Hat;33625705]They definitely didn't die protecting me. Nor you, if you want to be pedantic. You weren't even born. What I'm saying is that it has been a long time. The event itself should be merged with the remembrance of the entire war, not separate. If for some reason, I wanted to join the army, and I died in action; I wouldn't care. I'm dead, what good is being remembered for dying in action going to do me now? Sure, remember Nov 11. That truly did affect the way all of our countries work today. Pearl harbour didn't.[/QUOTE] No one is forcing you to remember these people or do anything at all. You are just being an ass hat for being so adamantly against it.
dem big ol dumb goodfernuthin gid dam japs. i gon sign up n start shootin sumadem gid dam japs fer my cuntry n kill erylast wunuvum ill tellyouwhat.
Man Without Hat: People had family in the war, you doofus. Our grandparents fought in WWII. I don't know about you, but I give a shit about my grandparents, so I'll gladly take time out of my day to respect what they fought for. Pearl Harbor was a significant day and it deserves some respect. Also, Pearl Harbor brought the US into the War and being Canadian, I hate to admit it, but the US made significant contributions to the war. Without Pearl Harbor, the war would of been drastically different, some might argue to the point that perhaps Hitler might of actually succeeded. It also led to the dropping of the Nuclear Bomb on Hiroshima, which demonstrated the terrible powers of the Nuclear Bomb to the world. Nuclear Power is now what powers many homes. Without dropping the Nuclear Bomb, other countries wouldn't of pursued Nuclear Technology and we would of seen a drastically different future. Enjoy.
My girlfriend's and my anniversary is on Dec 7. This year was our 2 year. I make jokes about our anniversary being on Pearl Harbor day. Maybe I shouldn't.
[QUOTE=Chubbles;33634069]My girlfriend's and my anniversary is on Dec 7. This year was our 2 year. I make jokes about our anniversary being on Pearl Harbor day. Maybe I shouldn't.[/QUOTE] Did you surprise attack her harbour if you get what I'm saying. :quagmire: [sp]I'm sorry.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Tukimoshi;33634021]Man Without Hat: People had family in the war, you doofus. Our grandparents fought in WWII. I don't know about you, but I give a shit about my grandparents, so I'll gladly take time out of my day to respect what they fought for. Pearl Harbor was a significant day and it deserves some respect. Also, Pearl Harbor brought the US into the War and being Canadian, I hate to admit it, but the US made significant contributions to the war. Without Pearl Harbor, the war would of been drastically different, some might argue to the point that perhaps Hitler might of actually succeeded. It also led to the dropping of the Nuclear Bomb on Hiroshima, which demonstrated the terrible powers of the Nuclear Bomb to the world. Nuclear Power is now what powers many homes. Without dropping the Nuclear Bomb, other countries wouldn't of pursued Nuclear Technology and we would of seen a drastically different future. Enjoy.[/QUOTE] ZING!
[QUOTE=squids_eye;33634242]Did you surprise attack her harbour if you get what I'm saying. :quagmire: [sp]I'm sorry.[/sp][/QUOTE] Why can't I be you on a daily basis?
America would have become involved in the war regardless of whether or not pearl harbour was attacked. America would still have nuked japan; nothing much would have changed. [editline]9th December 2011[/editline] I believe just before pearl harbour, an american cruiser was sunk by german subs somewhere in the area between Iceland (Bit further south though) and the USA. That would have been enough to pull them in, they just hadn't found out yet. [editline].[/editline] Looked up some sources, turns out it wasn't a US ship. Though, eventually one would have been sunk and the war would have had the same outcome.
[QUOTE=Man Without Hat;33639130]America would have become involved in the war regardless of whether or not pearl harbour was attacked. America would still have nuked japan; nothing much would have changed. [editline]9th December 2011[/editline] I believe just before pearl harbour, an american cruiser was sunk by german subs somewhere in the area between Iceland (Bit further south though) and the USA. That would have been enough to pull them in, they just hadn't found out yet. [editline].[/editline] Looked up some sources, turns out it wasn't a US ship. Though, eventually one would have been sunk and the war would have had the same outcome.[/QUOTE] You have no way of knowing for sure.
[QUOTE=Tukimoshi;33634021]Man Without Hat: People had family in the war, you doofus. Our grandparents fought in WWII. I don't know about you, but I give a shit about my grandparents, so I'll gladly take time out of my day to respect what they fought for. Pearl Harbor was a significant day and it deserves some respect. Also, Pearl Harbor brought the US into the War and being Canadian, I hate to admit it, but the US made significant contributions to the war. Without Pearl Harbor, the war would of been drastically different, some might argue to the point that perhaps Hitler might of actually succeeded. It also led to the dropping of the Nuclear Bomb on Hiroshima, which demonstrated the terrible powers of the Nuclear Bomb to the world. Nuclear Power is now what powers many homes. Without dropping the Nuclear Bomb, other countries wouldn't of pursued Nuclear Technology and we would of seen a drastically different future. Enjoy.[/QUOTE] I disagree with this. Not that America didn't contribute enormously in the war, but if you're going from this point of view, we are actually just holding a moment of silence to celebrate US ignorance and stubbornness. About the nuclear bomb, yeah, it was dropped. Did it do any good? Yeah, you're right nuclear power, and the fact that the war was cut off earlier (and with less losses). I'm pretty sure nuclear power would have been developed as well (and you're somewhat exaggerating the importance of it, in my opinion. The research brought a lot else with it, though), and the cold war does have much to do with the nuclear bomb race. If it weren't for the stubbornness of the US population (and definitely the Soviet Union), the cold war could probably have ended somewhere in the 60's. Of course, this is a lot of "might's", and the cold war could have ended in a hotter one as well, but I really don't think this post is Zing! worthy in any way.
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