I'm thinking about joining Christianity, should I? - General

[QUOTE=lulzbocks;19169421]I have a question. Can you point out, in modern times, an instance where the whole or majority of the Catholic Church has harmed or impeded humanity in some way.[/QUOTE] Do understand the point that I am trying to make that simply by existing they are allowing the minority, of bigots to have support in their bigoted causes?

[QUOTE=lulzbocks;19169421]I have a question. Can you point out, in modern times, an instance where the whole or majority of the Catholic Church has harmed or impeded humanity in some way.[/QUOTE] The designated church belief concerning gay marriage: Abomination. :)

Eh sometimes I wish I was still Christian. I seemed more happy, even if it was an illusion. I guess it's kinda like the Matrix.

[QUOTE=Kukuzi;19169370]Christianity would not exist without the Bible. Mary is the "Mother" of the Church. Is she the mother of the anti-gay rights movement?[/QUOTE] once again, debatable the [B]church[/B] could not exist without the bible. Stories of a "jesus" figure were pretty common back in that age, so it's quite possible the concept of christianity existed before that of the modern church. aka the stories of the bible existed before it being written, but probably didn't include the small little snippets from god and primarily dealt with the stories of creation, jesus, and repent

[QUOTE=Maccabee;19169445]"1 Corinthians 6:9 (New International Version) Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders" That's the only time that homosexual is said in the bible. And what it says is the truth. The bible says nothing about stoning the gays.[/QUOTE] Leviticus: Ch22 If I am correct. Please stop with the idiocy.

[QUOTE=Kukuzi;19169449]The designated church belief concerning gay marriage: Abomination. :)[/QUOTE] The majority of Catholics do not agree.

[QUOTE=BrickInHead;19169453]once again, debatable the [B]church[/B] could not exist without the bible. Stories of a "jesus" figure were pretty common back in that age, so it's quite possible the concept of christianity existed before that of the modern church. aka the stories of the bible existed before it being written, but probably didn't include the small little snippets from god and primarily dealt with the stories of creation, jesus, and repent[/QUOTE] BS it's debatable. The Catholic Bible was founded on the principles and teachings of Jesus, that is in no sense debatable, the church is Mary's spawn. [editline]05:21AM[/editline] [QUOTE=lulzbocks;19169458]The majority of Catholics do not agree.[/QUOTE] I would enjoy proof of that. However, you asked for a church teaching. I gave it.

[QUOTE=lulzbocks;19169421]I have a question. Can you point out, in modern times, an instance where the whole or majority of the Catholic Church has harmed or impeded humanity in some way.[/QUOTE] StemCell Research Gay Rights Abortion Condom use in Africa

[QUOTE=lulzbocks;19169458]The majority of Catholics do not agree.[/QUOTE] Yet they do not go out and protest against it. They stand by like sheep while the bigoted Catholics do yell, scream and whatever about homosexuality being an abomination. And from the perspective of everyone else, it seems like they have a massive following in the Catholic community. Even if they do not agree, simply by not actively disagreeing, they passively agree and enable it to go on. Do you understand this?

[QUOTE=Kukuzi;19169471]BS it's debatable. The Catholic Bible was founded on the principles and teachings of Jesus, that is in no sense debatable, the church is Mary's spawn.[/QUOTE] jesus also said fuck the rich and that certainly ain't the viewpoint of the church now is it jesus also personally never said jack shit about the gays you seem to be under the impression that everything in the bible is a teaching of jesus the shit in the bible is more the intervention of man, so if I were ever to be a religious man I would pretty much completely disregard it. The "biblical" historical records concerning jesus and jesus alone I'd consider

[QUOTE=lulzbocks;19169421]I have a question. Can you point out, in modern times, an instance where the whole or majority of the Catholic Church has harmed or impeded humanity in some way.[/QUOTE] I don't know about the opinions of Catholics themselves, but in terms of the church? Plenty. For one, refusing to encourage condom use in Africa to help stop the spread of aids. Two, speaking out against stem cell research. Three, speaking out against gay marriage. Self rated late

[QUOTE=BrickInHead;19169487]jesus also said fuck the rich and that certainly ain't the viewpoint of the church now is it jesus also personally never said jack shit about the gays[/QUOTE] You don't know that, he could have slung a few stones at homosexuals for all we know.

You can stone disobedient children to death in the bible.

[QUOTE=Kukuzi;19169503]You don't know that, he could have slung a few stones at homosexuals for all we know.[/QUOTE] truf, we don't know personally I don't care [editline]03:25AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Zeke129;19169500]I don't know about the opinions of Catholics themselves, but in terms of the church? Plenty. For one, refusing to encourage condom use in Africa to help stop the spread of aids. Two, speaking out against stem cell research. Three, speaking out against gay marriage. Self rated late[/QUOTE] oh god watching tv super-priests talk about this shit is hilarious

Please don't follow a religion that says gays should be executed, myself included. I'm sick of all the prosecution.

Well, I'm out for tonight. The stone-throwing was fun. Thanks guys.

Anyway. It's 3:25AM. I have to deal with Christmas eve crap today. So I'm going to sleep. Feel free to add me on steam friends... over... <this way if you want to argue some more later, or something.

[QUOTE=BrickInHead;19169523] oh god watching tv super-priests talk about this shit is hilarious[/QUOTE] Evangelists? Yeah, they are some of the biggest assholes ever. Have you heard of Kent Hovine? 10m tax evasion. In any event, I best be heading off as well.

[QUOTE=HQRSE;19169541]Please don't follow a religion that says gays should be executed, myself included. I'm sick of all the prosecution.[/QUOTE] You're into beastiality, i'm pretty sure the both Religous and Athiests both frown on that.

[QUOTE=bigdan;19169572]You're into beastiality, i'm pretty sure the both Religous and Athiests both frown on that.[/QUOTE] you crazy? we're atheists we don't have morals

Please prosecute HQRSE.

[QUOTE=lulzbocks;19169210]How? How am I controlled by my beliefs?[/QUOTE] Your beliefs affect every single decision you make, have made, and ever will make. What you believe to be right or wrong make you who you are. If you think that it's ok for everyone to just believe whatever they want rather than trying to find out what's actually correct, you are a fool, and are part of the reason we are still fighting off the oppression of religious thought to this day. You must understand, it is your duty, as a human being, to find out the truth. If you are unwilling to ask questions and are content to simply be spoonfed your daily dose of guilt, then at the very least, I ask you stay the hell out of the way while we try to find the truth. Don't deny us access to science.

I think I'd rather benefit the world than sit around praying or taking extra classes to learn 'how Jesus was killed'

[QUOTE=BrickInHead;19169586]you crazy? we're atheists we don't have morals[/QUOTE] Than why is it illegal even in pretty much every state in America where it is run by an Athiest?

[QUOTE=bigdan;19169631]Than why is it illegal even in pretty much every state in America where it is run by an Athiest?[/QUOTE] Because a person died from it.

Christmas was so much more fun when i believed in God And i wasen't the stereotypical nutcase too. [editline]08:37AM[/editline] And christianity stoped me from stealing stuff, now, i'm just loose.

[QUOTE=KestasLT;19169657] And christianity stoped me from stealing stuff, now, i'm just loose.[/QUOTE] that just means your a bad person

[QUOTE=Carbon Knight;19169646]Because a person died from it.[/QUOTE] No, that would be like banning cars because someone ran it front of it.

[QUOTE=KestasLT;19169657]Christmas was so much more fun when i believed in God And i wasen't the stereotypical nutcase too. [editline]08:37AM[/editline] And christianity stoped me from stealing stuff, now, i'm just loose.[/QUOTE] What the shit does believing in God have to do with the fun-ness Christmas?

I'm hating all of these Atheist stating that Christianity is a by the book practice. Christianity is never the same for anyone. It's all based on your point of view. For example, a rather "traditional" Christian will believe that getting a tattoo is work of the devil, while a "laid back" Christian won't have any problems with it. If you find something as wrong, it's wrong, and if you find something as right, it's right (In most cases).