[QUOTE=eddy-tt-;39080515]True but the point is kyle lacks a certain amount of common sense it takes when using a gun, something both hickok45 and Iraqveteran8888 guys have, even though they do some silly shit on their channel like [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAnbDvLIAac]the little .410 shotgun that could[/url] where they fired rounds not designed for it, through it.[/QUOTE]
Better him than me :v:
Not being cynical or anything but i think that there is more to most of FPS Russia's videos than meet the eye.
Iv'e used After effects for a long time and seen a lot of explosion reels and explosion stock footage in my time using it, in lots of his videos the explosions are enhanced, you can literally see the flashes of a composited explosion a frame or two before along with dust fading away unrealistically sometimes and other things.
Also after watching the Drone video It's really not THAT unbelievable that it's CGI, in fact it looks like a whole load of effort went into fooling the audience so why wouldn't he step up his game and do something like this.
These guys on youtube earn MILLIONS, it wouldn't surprise me if he spent money collaborating with professional FX guys for a video every now and again to keep the videos interesting and controversial.
[QUOTE=Gez;39080671]Not being cynical or anything but i think that there are more to most of FPS Russia's videos than meet the eye. Iv'e used After effects for a long time and seen a lot of explosion reels and explosion stock footage in my time using it, in lots of his videos the explosions are enhanced, you can literally see the flashes of a composited explosion a frame or two before along with dust fading away unrealistically sometimes and other things. Also after watching the Drone video It's really not THAT unbelievable that it's CGI, in fact it looks like a whole load of effort went into fooling the audience so why wouldn't he step up his game and do something like this. These guys on youtube earn MILLIONS, it wouldn't surprise me if he spent money collaborating with professional FX guys for a video every now and again to keep the videos interesting and controversial.[/QUOTE]
Dude, paragraphs do exist :pwn:
[QUOTE=Gez;39080671]Not being cynical or anything but i think that there are more to most of FPS Russia's videos than meet the eye.
Iv'e used After effects for a long time and seen a lot of explosion reels and explosion stock footage in my time using it, in lots of his videos the explosions are enhanced, you can literally see the flashes of a composited explosion a frame or two before along with dust fading away unrealistically sometimes and other things.
Also after watching the Drone video It's really not THAT unbelievable that it's CGI, in fact it looks like a whole load of effort went into fooling the audience so why wouldn't he step up his game and do something like this.
These guys on youtube earn MILLIONS, it wouldn't surprise me if he spent money collaborating with professional FX guys for a video every now and again to keep the videos interesting and controversial.[/QUOTE]
You have a point, he has half a billion views. That has to be loads and loads of advertising cash.
You're just giving him the publicity he works for, that shit is crying fake.
For the amount of cash he earns, a legendary animator to make this kind of thing isn't a big expense.
[QUOTE=Rapist;39077062]Because FP is one person.[/QUOTE]
r u stupid? there is not 1 person on fp, tehre are 10k peoples........
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;39077887]I would love to know what in his tiny rifle could have possibly triggered a full on actual explosion just by shooting one bullet at a car.
Not to mention the camera doesn't even flinch in front of a rather huge explosion and has absolutely no issue filming what should normally be a massive ball of fire.
And don't tell me he shot the gas tank or whatever because making a car explode by shooting/lighting the gas tank on fire is just a myth. Filling the car with explosives won't help either because it will just detonate then make the car catch on fire, but certainly not implode in a shower of shrapnel.[/QUOTE]
A shit ton of tannerite/In the Red.
It's quite clearly mounted.
In the case of chemically expansive combustion (IE Tannerite), there's comparatively little heat as compared to expanding gasses, which tend to blow out most flames. Shooting targets are very rarely designed to catch everything around them on fire - You can probably see why that would be an issue.
Also, imploding is collapsing in on itself. That was very clearly [i]ex[/i]ploding.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;39077931]That would not make a car explode like that. Did he also fill it with dust so it makes a big nice cloud of dirt ?[/QUOTE]
"explosives don't make things explode"
[video=youtube;qx7iijLIItM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx7iijLIItM[/video]
[QUOTE=MoarFunz;39080732]You're just giving him the publicity he works for, that shit is crying fake.
For the amount of cash he earns, a legendary animator to make this kind of thing isn't a big expense.[/QUOTE]
I don't doubt that an animator could create that effect, it's well within the realm of possibility. But knowing this guy and his videos, it's really not that far out to say that this was simply a bad decision on his part and he and his cameraman made it out in one piece because of pure luck.
Not everything on the internet is a hoax or is faked. The car's obviously demolished at the end of the video and this guy does legitimately blow things up, so put two and two together with a common disregard for safety and you're just waiting for an incident.
[QUOTE=The Vman;39077824]I highly doubt this is fake. For one, the last time he tried to fake something (the remote control drone) it was painfully obvious it was CG.
[IMG]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/23/article-2134024-12BAEFEB000005DC-308_634x304.jpg[/IMG]
But with this, it matches far too well with everything else to be fake. If it was faked it would have been done by some top notch animators. Especially considering how erratically the shrapnel moved, like how it curved in the air due to it being a boomerang shape. (Also, in regards to your comment about the grass, look at the shot where the smoke has cleared. Most of the grass, even the grass around the car, still looks fairly intact.)
The other thing is that they also give you the slowmo shot right afterwards, in which you can see the door get sent flying. It gets sent down into the ground, where it ricochets, just like in the real time version, you can see it bouncing up off the ground right as the car explodes.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Zbfy7.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
It's not CG, it's just 2 shots, 1 of him and 1 of the explosion render into one piece. Pretty easy to fake from a director point of view. Same thing you sometimes see with same actor twins on tv they just merged 2 shots in 1. Also the shrapnel looks fake, it shouldn't do a 20 degree twist up with such soft grass.
Either way this video is getting too much attention. I find it bizarre that people make a living through this kind of stunts.
It's funny that everyone is obsessing about the door, when there would be a million deadly pieces of shrapnel that would be propelled from such an explosion. He would be filled with holes, standing that close to an exploding car. A shrapnel the size of a penny would be enough to kill him. Just ask some demolitions experts on how close they want to stand next to an explosion. There's a reason they use blast shields.
I like how at the end, in his head, "Holy fucking shit, I almost died there." and then he calmly says things. He saved the moment, and the camera was on a fucking tripod people, see that smooth as fuck pan right after the door went flying past them?
He seems genuinely shaken up at the end. I know I would be.
He's not being badass by completely disregarding any sort of safe distance or cover, he's being fucking retarded and it annoys me. He might die or be seriously injured one day doing these videos and I am going to say he completely deserves it. This isn't the the movies or those Call of Duty games you play FPSRussia, unpredictable things happen when you are handling guns and explosives. These aren't funny little stunts, this is shooting a fucking explosive car and standing pretty damn close to it.
And injuring his cameraman from the fridge blast didn't get the point through...
He's going to get someone (or himself) horrifyingly injured or killed if he doesn't change the way he does his videos.
If that actually happened, HOLY SHIT that guy needs to get better protection. Considering his fixation with military hardware he could do a lot worse than acquiring some sort of thick protective armour; sure he'd probably look like a tackier version of a Space Marine, but at least he wouldn't be at as much risk from flying shrapnel.
[QUOTE=mac338;39077372]Big balls, no brains.[/QUOTE]
So, a real life Leeroy Jenkins?
I remember in some of this videos he answers a question about safety and said that the camera man has more protection than the bomb squad. sure.
Man what a fucking moron. What did he expect when you blow up a car?
God damn I thought he would have learned his lesson by now.
[QUOTE=Gez;39080671]Not being cynical or anything but i think that there is more to most of FPS Russia's videos than meet the eye.
Iv'e used After effects for a long time and seen a lot of explosion reels and explosion stock footage in my time using it, in lots of his videos the explosions are enhanced, you can literally see the flashes of a composited explosion a frame or two before along with dust fading away unrealistically sometimes and other things.
Also after watching the Drone video It's really not THAT unbelievable that it's CGI, in fact it looks like a whole load of effort went into fooling the audience so why wouldn't he step up his game and do something like this.
These guys on youtube earn MILLIONS, it wouldn't surprise me if he spent money collaborating with professional FX guys for a video every now and again to keep the videos interesting and controversial.[/QUOTE]
But what it does is gives gun owners a bad name and reputation. Most normal people are easily tricked by CGI, and I still think maybe it's legit. But if it isn't, it still gives people with an agenda a lot of ammunition.
This can hurt a lot more people than it entertains.
[QUOTE=don818;39082983]But what it does is gives gun owners a bad name and reputation. Most normal people are easily tricked by CGI, and I still think maybe it's legit. But if it isn't, it still gives people with an agenda a lot of ammunition.
This can hurt a lot more people than it entertains.[/QUOTE]
Because someone might hurt himself by his own free will or stupidness? Boy we gotta ban like all extreme sports, half of normal sports, alcohol, tobacco, fastfood, knives... any sharp or heavy objects for that matter, and everything that you can overdose, including chocolate and water. If you are a fucking moron you can kill yourself with literally everything.
I'm not seeing how people are truly fooled by this. You guys bought into the whole baby and the eagle video despite the fact that was fake as well.
CGI can be done pretty convincingly when you are one of the most popular channels on Youtube and make a shit ton of money. It allows you to hire great editors and animators.
The fact that the part with the debris flying by the camera was just so fast, makes it even easier to fake, since the CGI doesn't have to be on screen for that long. The less screen time CGI has, the easier it is to pass to an audience.
I'm not saying that this COULDN'T happen, I just don't believe this actually happened. He likes to get his views, and he wants people to talk about the video and spread it. It's just a tactic to get people to watch.
And for the people trying to use the "Holy fucking shit" guy in the background as proof that it happened. You do know that there is this thing called writing and acting right? They could have simply said "we are going to make this look like a close call in editing so react accordingly." Or, it simple could have been due to the fact that it was just a really cool explosion? OR, it could have even been added later in post from someone doing a simple voice clip.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;39084044]Because someone might hurt himself by his own free will or stupidness? Boy we gotta ban like all extreme sports, half of normal sports, alcohol, tobacco, fastfood, knives... any sharp or heavy objects for that matter, and everything that you can overdose, including chocolate and water. If you are a fucking moron you can kill yourself with literally everything.[/QUOTE]
Way to take the whole thing out of context and jump on the HURR BAN EVERYTHING bandwagon.
I KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINDA said FPSRussia MIIIIIIGHT be a little fucking retarded and giving people a bad image.
MAYBE.
But probably not.
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;39084065]I'm not seeing how people are truly fooled by this. You guys bought into the whole baby and the eagle video despite the fact that was fake as well.
CGI can be done pretty convincingly when you are one of the most popular channels on Youtube and make a shit ton of money. It allows you to hire great editors and animators.
The fact that the part with the debris flying by the camera was just so fast, makes it even easier to fake, since the CGI doesn't have to be on screen for that long. The less screen time CGI has, the easier it is to pass to an audience.
I'm not saying that this COULDN'T happen, I just don't believe this actually happened. He likes to get his views, and he wants people to talk about the video and spread it. It's just a tactic to get people to watch.
And for the people trying to use the "Holy fucking shit" guy in the background as proof that it happened. You do know that there is this thing called writing and acting right? They could have simply said "we are going to make this look like a close call in editing so react accordingly." Or, it simple could have been due to the fact that it was just a really cool explosion? OR, it could have even been added later in post from someone doing a simple voice clip.[/QUOTE]
What about the slow motion? Looked like the door was actually tumbling towards where he stood.
[QUOTE=don818;39084170]Way to take the whole thing out of context and jump on the HURR BAN EVERYTHING bandwagon.
I KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINDA said FPSRussia MIIIIIIGHT be a little fucking retarded and giving people a bad image.
MAYBE.
But probably not.[/QUOTE]
If you think that some idiot hurting himself with something is an argument for banning the thing, then sorry but according to your logic we should "hurr durr ban everything" because, like I said, you can hurt or even kill yourself with everything.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;39084178]What about the slow motion? Looked like the door was actually tumbling towards where he stood.[/QUOTE]
Looks like it was tumbling. I don't know if it was tumbling towards him or if it kept going once it left the frame, at least not at that speed. I just think that the door flew off but hit the ground and stopped way before it got to him, and they just put in the cgi to make it look like it was a close call.
Some of the debris also appears to be missing from the real time shot versus the slow motion shot. If you stop the real time section and the slow motion section at the exact time the door first hits the ground, there is a lot of large debris that you should be able to see in the real time frame.
Christ, what an idiot. And when something finally happens, it will be a "horrible, tragic accident". No! There's nothing "Accident" about something like this. Standing that close to an exploding car in a T-shirt is asking to get hit by shrapnel. It's suicide to disregard safety with such a baffling level of ignorance and stupidity.
while i don't enjoy his videos, his character, or his fanbase, i have to question whether i admire his dedication and ability to keep cool after being nearly cut in half, or whether i hate him for his blatant disregard of safety.
[QUOTE=The Vman;39077824]I highly doubt this is fake. For one, the last time he tried to fake something (the remote control drone) it was painfully obvious it was CG.
[IMG]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/23/article-2134024-12BAEFEB000005DC-308_634x304.jpg[/IMG]
But with this, it matches far too well with everything else to be fake. If it was faked it would have been done by some top notch animators. Especially considering how erratically the shrapnel moved, like how it curved in the air due to it being a boomerang shape. (Also, in regards to your comment about the grass, look at the shot where the smoke has cleared. Most of the grass, even the grass around the car, still looks fairly intact.)
The other thing is that they also give you the slowmo shot right afterwards, in which you can see the door get sent flying. It gets sent down into the ground, where it ricochets, just like in the real time version, you can see it bouncing up off the ground right as the car explodes.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Zbfy7.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
To be fair the whole point of the Quadrotor video was a viral marketing campaign by Treyarch for Black Ops 2. FPSRussia was even in the Surprise live-action trailer.
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