When I see innocent people being gunned down, I see a problem in our nation's training or in their choosing of weapon operators. The gunner had a clear view of what was going on down there and did not exercise rational thinking.
Our original purpose in Iraq was not to kill insurgents but to create stability so a Westernized provisional government could be established.
[QUOTE=XCIV;21203992]Okay troll, go back to OIFY and take bobste with you. You're both fucked up kids.
To answer your question in the rare case you wanted an actual answer: Yes, but it takes a lot for me to actually hate someone, they'd have to do some pretty wrong shit. I'd shoot them in the foot or arm depending on what they did. If they murdered one of my family, I'd kill them. If I spotted them from the air carrying what seemed to be a black object with a strap, no, I would not shoot them or the 10 people that happened to be around them at the time.[/QUOTE]
it was a war, they didn't just pull up to a random town and start shooting shit up, and they were carrying weapons in a war zone as already been said.
[QUOTE=XCIV;21203992]Okay troll, go back to OIFY and take bobste with you. You're both fucked up kids.
To answer your question in the rare case you wanted an actual answer: Yes, but it takes a lot for me to actually hate someone, they'd have to do some pretty wrong shit. I'd shoot them in the foot or arm depending on what they did. If they murdered one of my family, I'd kill them. If I spotted them from the air carrying what seemed to be a black object with a strap, no, I would not shoot them or the 10 people that happened to be around them at the time.[/QUOTE]
answer my questions
and I'm a troll because I disagree with you?
[QUOTE=XCIV;21203992][B]Okay troll, go back to OIFY and take bobste with you. You're both fucked up kids.
[/B]
To answer your question in the rare case you wanted an actual answer: Yes, but it takes a lot for me to actually hate someone, they'd have to do some pretty wrong shit. I'd shoot them in the foot or arm depending on what they did. If they murdered one of my family, I'd kill them. If I spotted them from the air carrying what seemed to be a black object with a strap, no, I would not shoot them or the 10 people that happened to be around them at the time.[/QUOTE]
Saying this should be a bannable offense! Bobste is a better poster than you by far, so I'm calling troll on this post.
[QUOTE=Wakka;21204083]When I see innocent people being gunned down, I see a problem in our nation's training or in their choosing of weapon operators. The gunner had a clear view of what was going on down there and did not exercise rational thinking.
Our original purpose in Iraq was not to kill insurgents but to create stability so a Westernized provisional government could be established.[/QUOTE]
Good to see someone has some sense around here.
[QUOTE=Marlowe;21204103]it was a war, they didn't just pull up to a random town and start shooting shit up, and they were carrying weapons in a war zone as already been said.[/QUOTE]
How do you know they where carrying weapons?? Here, don't even think about it, I'll answer this for you: you don't. You have no idea if that shit was made up, no idea, zero, nadda, end of story/discussion.
Stop justifying shit in your head, the weapons are imaginary bud.
[img]http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=4730677[/img]
[QUOTE=Parrrky;21204144]Saying this should be a bannable offense! Bobste is a better poster than you by far, so I'm calling troll on this post.[/QUOTE]
Anyone with anime as their avatar is screwed up in the head, so it makes sense why you side with bobste.
[QUOTE=SergeantDead;21204141]Well, what if the soldier's family was in the Twin Towers during 9/11? He doesn't know who did it, and he hates their guts because they're hiding who killed his family.[/QUOTE]
What's your point?
[QUOTE=XCIV;21204148]Good to see someone has some sense around here.
How do you know they where carrying weapons?? Here, don't even think about it, I'll answer this for you: you don't. You have no idea if that shit was made up, no idea, zero, nadda, end of story/discussion.
Stop justifying shit in your head, the weapons are imaginary bud.
[img]http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=4730677[/img][/QUOTE]
just because you watched a low res youtube video don't think YOU can make out what they're carrying either, the people who were actually there at the time recognized multiple weapons so unless you were there, shut up..
hey listen, if they have people trained to tell if they have weapons, and they've got info from these people that they do they have to trust them theyre not gonna sit back and ask "ARE U SURE??"
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[QUOTE=XCIV;21204148]Anyone with anime as their avatar is screwed up in the head, so it makes sense why you side with bobste.
[/QUOTE]
haha, there is literally no reason not to watch anime but whatever! troll harder, fail troll is more fail than longcats are long. ^_^
[QUOTE=XCIV;21204148]Good to see someone has some sense around here.
How do you know they where carrying weapons?? Here, don't even think about it, I'll answer this for you: you don't. You have no idea if that shit was made up, no idea, zero, nadda, end of story/discussion.
Stop justifying shit in your head, the weapons are imaginary bud.
[/QUOTE]
i'm sure you would be able to tell from your hd monitor while sitting in your comfortable chair with a room temperature at ~70 while wearing some nice pajamas with little to no noise to influence your thinking abilities.
and you still haven't answered my questions.
Eh, the dumb troll isn't replying, good. This thread can now be re-railed again!
[QUOTE=Marlowe;21204180]just because you watched a low res youtube video don't think YOU can make out what they're carrying either, the people who were actually there at the time recognized multiple weapons so unless you were there, shut up..[/QUOTE]
Here, you're too near sighted to figure anything out so I'll lay it out for you:
[list]
[*]The weapons where judged from a distance and confirmed in a very quick manor by a "footman" who wasn't equipped with optical or sight enhancing equipment (binoculars, scope, ect). They also where sighted as having an RPG which is fucking bullshit because no one was carrying anything remotely similar to an rpg obvious from the footage.
[*]Go to the collateral murders sight and find out there where many innocents killed in that group as well as two children who where fired on even quicker than the group of people with even less verification
[*]The soldiers behaved as if they didn't care about killing and showed an obvious disregard for human life.
[*]The group they fired on was not a threat even if one of them where carrying light arms
[/list]
[QUOTE=SergeantDead;21204269]Why are you bringing anime into the subject. I, for one, am extremely fond of anime such as Haruhi and Paranoia Agent. It does not necessarily mean I'm not processing my thoughts as well as you or any other person. Why troll?[/QUOTE]
Haha! Really? You like anime? No way!
And I bring your taste for anime to light so I can rationalize the causality for your awkward perspective and comments.
[QUOTE=bobste;21204270]i'm sure you would be able to tell from your hd monitor while sitting in your comfortable chair with a room temperature at ~70 while wearing some nice pajamas with little to no noise to influence your thinking abilities.
and you still haven't answered my questions.[/QUOTE]
Yes I know the ROE, what about them?
And are you making excuses for the soldiers...?
[QUOTE=XCIV;21204337]Here, you're too near sighted to figure anything out so I'll lay it out for you:
[list]
[*]T[B]he weapons where judged from a distance and confirmed in a very quick manor by a "footman" who wasn't equipped with optical or sight enhancing equipment (binoculars, scope, ect). They also where sighted as having an RPG which is fucking bullshit because no one was carrying anything remotely similar to an rpg obvious from the footage.[/B]
[*]Go to the collateral murders sight and find out there where many innocents killed in that group as well as two children who where fired on even quicker than the group of people with even less verification
[*][I]The soldiers behaved as if they didn't care about killing and showed an obvious disregard for human life.[/I]
[*][I]The group they fired on was not a threat even if one of them where carrying light arms[/I]
[/list][/QUOTE]
Ok, can you please prove the bolded stuff.
As for italics,
[*] ITS THEIR FUCKING JOB MORON
[*] oh i see so they just should have let the terrorist go!
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[QUOTE=XCIV;21204337]Haha! Really? You like anime? No way!
And I bring your taste for anime to light so I can rationalize the causality for your awkward perspective and comments.[/QUOTE]
Bring anime out of this!
[QUOTE=XCIV;21204337]Here, you're too near sighted to figure anything out so I'll lay it out for you:
[list]
[*]The weapons where judged from a distance and confirmed in a very quick manor by a "footman" who wasn't equipped with optical or sight enhancing equipment (binoculars, scope, ect). They also where sighted as having an RPG which is fucking bullshit because no one was carrying anything remotely similar to an rpg obvious from the footage.
[b] do you expect them to walk up to them and search them[/b]
[*]Go to the collateral murders sight and find out there where many innocents killed in that group as well as two children who where fired on even quicker than the group of people with even less verification
[b] wah [/b]
[*]The soldiers behaved as if they didn't care about killing and showed an obvious disregard for human life.
[b] that's how soldiers are trained. if you actually think that you are killing people you become ineffective and might have a mental breakdown during a firefight and that can get you or your friend killed. some people do after they leave the military, PTSD.[/b]
[*]The group they fired on was not a threat even if one of them where carrying light arms
[b] if they are carrying a weapon, that is a threat [/b]
[/list][/QUOTE]
[quote]Yes I know the ROE, what about them?
And are you making excuses for the soldiers...?[/quote]
no I am not making excuses for them and they don't need excuses because [b]they were doing their job.[/b] as for the ROE, they followed it exactly, they did not do anything out of the ROE.
still haven't answered my questions
[quote] what would you do[/quote]
[QUOTE=Wakka;21203606]You're a god damn child that does not comprehend the seriousness of the military and the value of human life. It's all a game to you.[/QUOTE]
Srs bsns.
This is where I stop wasting my time with trolls/general idiots #1, #2, and #3.
XCIV,
[list]
[*]you're a little bitch for caring about terrorists.
[*]they clearly fucking had automatic rifles.
[*]they weren't reporters.
[/list]
[QUOTE=XCIV;21204392]This is where I stop wasting my time with trolls #1, #2, and #3.[/QUOTE]
how are we even trolling
we just disagree with your points of view, that isn't trolling.
[QUOTE=XCIV;21204392]This is where I stop wasting my time with trolls #1, #2, and #3.[/QUOTE]
No this is where you give up trolling; none of what I said has been trolling, they're valid questions and I've proved you're either;
a) a troll
b) an anime hater
c) pulling things out your arse as a foundation for your argument
either way; you really are just pathetic.
And for the record, your posts are boring to read. Try to learn English better so you can speak your mind to where you don't sound like an uneducated hillbilly.
And stop being copycats. Just because I made a list doesn't mean you get to as well.
[QUOTE=XCIV;21204438]And for the record, your posts are boring to read. Try to learn English better so you can speak your mind to where you don't sound like an uneducated hillbilly.[/QUOTE]
My posts are in perfect english; you however are disgracing it by being a moron. Listen just admit you're wrong so we can finally resolve whether you are a troll, or not. Simple.
[QUOTE=XCIV;21204438]And for the record, your posts are boring to read. Try to learn English better so you can speak your mind to where you don't sound like an uneducated hillbilly.
And stop being copycats. Just because I made a list doesn't mean you get to as well.[/QUOTE]
translation: "i can't think of anything good for a counterpoint so I'm just going to insult their grammar and how using a list is copying me!"
Shooting the first 8 people? I am completely fine with that. Hell, I even though they had weapons. Killing the SUV and children trying to save their injured friend and bury the dead? What. The. Fuck.
How the fuck does watching anime change ones perspective and comments?
You sir are an idiot and should thus give up arguing.
@XCIV
[QUOTE=Darkebrz;21204464]Shooting the first 8 people? I am completely fine with that. Hell, I even though they had weapons. Killing the SUV and children trying to save their injured friend and bury the dead? What. The. Fuck.[/QUOTE]
The most fucked up part is where they don't get any punishment for doing so and got to go back to their jobs probably to do the same thing a couple more times.
[QUOTE=XCIV;21204484]The most fucked up part is where they don't get any punishment for doing so and got to go back to their jobs probably to do the same thing a couple more times.[/QUOTE]
Honestly answer my points, I am contemplating reporting you to a Moderator to be banned.
[QUOTE=bobste;21204379]no I am not making excuses for them and they don't need excuses because [b]they were doing their job.[/b] as for the ROE, they followed it exactly, they did not do anything out of the ROE.
[/QUOTE]
oh no, civilians were accidentally killed! like this never happens...
[QUOTE=LeonS;21204483]How the fuck does watching anime change ones perspective and comments?
You sir are an idiot and should thus give up arguing.
@XCIV[/QUOTE]
Watching anime is an emergent result of a particular type of perspective and mindset. Not a specific or absolute mindset, but a general one. In general, people who associate with anime very frequently seem to consistently be oddballs and are never in tune with normal social behavior and normal societal values. Often lack common sense too.
Sorry I had to explain it and that you couldn't figure it out on your own.
But since I am an idiot, I must concede my argument and leave you the victor.
/offtopicness
[QUOTE=Makol;21204505]oh no, civilians were accidentally killed! like this never happens...[/QUOTE]
You're right let's just ignore it like we always do.
Can't we just all get along?
Wow, thats some real looking graphics.
[QUOTE=XCIV;21204512]Watching anime is an emergent result of a particular type of perspective and mindset. Not a specific or absolute mindset, but a general one. In general, people who associate with anime very frequently seem to consistently be oddballs and are never in tune with normal social behavior and normal societal values. Often lack common sense too.
Sorry I had to explain it and that you couldn't figure it out on your own.
But since I am an idiot, I must concede my argument and leave you the victor.
/offtopicness[/QUOTE]
That makes no sense whatsoever so I won't even bother. GOOD DAY SIR
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