[QUOTE=mysteryman;32494833]Plus it pisses me off because i have a problem thanks to english class where i no longer can actually find a deeper meaning because i've been forced to find ~deep~ meanings in quotes and passages that literally mean nothing.
It truly saddens me because as of late, i've been watching quite a lot of great movies and reading a lot of books that i can't delve into their meaning.
Fucking english class.[/QUOTE]
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh agree x5000
It's like English class wants to ruin everything that doesn't have 50 themes and autistic amounts of character development.
Here's some old relevant gold:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/9seYm.png[/img]
While i agree that there are plenty of things in a book an author uses to symbolize something, in english class even what the character fucking ate for breakfast represents some deep conscious allegory.
[QUOTE=mysteryman;32495539]Here's some old relevant gold:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/9seYm.png[/img][/QUOTE]
oh god that just sums up my thoughts of english class, fuck I hated that.
[QUOTE=mysteryman;32494727]I never got how/why people put quotes before videos and movies.[/QUOTE]
It's a device used to set the tone of a piece. In that (really well-done!) video, the George Orwell quote is just lifted from the original; it introduces the content by warning that a "big" government can easily cover up war crimes & injustices.
[QUOTE=mysteryman;32494727]I feel as if when they do that, they try to force you to feel something but instead backfire.[/QUOTE]
All media are created with purposes - in the "collateral murder" video, for instance, the editors were attempting to incite rage & rebellious sentiment against the seemingly oppressive, murderous U.S. military. You're right, though - quotes can be totally misused and end up having a weak emotional effect. For example, the loading screens from the recent Call of Duty games feature war-themed quotes from famous commanders and generals. Some of them might be [i]interesting[/i], but they don't mean anything because there's no context - they're just psuedo-intellectual filler. That's where a sarcastic description like
[QUOTE=Tark;32494765]it's ~deep~[/QUOTE]
would be totally appropriate.
[QUOTE=mysteryman;32494727]Also i feel like they are going on and just searching for suitable quotes, not ones that they just know.[/QUOTE]
There's nothing wrong with searching for a suitable quote if it's truly suitable, right?
[QUOTE=mysteryman;32495539]Here's some old relevant gold:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/9seYm.png[/img]
While i agree that there are plenty of things in a book an author uses to symbolize something, in english class even what the character fucking ate for breakfast represents some deep conscious allegory.[/QUOTE]
That's not "gold" at all! If you adhere strictly to the literal meaning of an author's words, chances are you'll end up missing most of the real content. If you're not a naturally left-brained or analytical person, you might find comfort in an image like the one you posted - I find it ridiculous. Any respectable literature would never waste prose on kindergarten-level stuff like [B]THE CURTAINS WERE BLUE[/B] or [B]JOEY ATE SAUSAGE FOR BREAKFAST[/B], so I have a hard time believing you're really being forced to read (and analyze) anything that shallow. People can think in drastically different ways - if you're not great with themes & symbols, you shouldn't blame your teacher/instructor/professor (who, if they're working in English, is guaranteed to have studied literature professionally).
[QUOTE=smallfry;32497091]
That's not "gold" at all! If you adhere strictly to the literal meaning of an author's words, chances are you'll end up missing most of the real content. If you're not a naturally left-brained or analytical person, you might find comfort in an image like the one you posted - I find it ridiculous. Any respectable literature would never waste prose on kindergarten-level stuff like [B]THE CURTAINS WERE BLUE[/B] or [B]JOEY ATE SAUSAGE FOR BREAKFAST[/B], so I have a hard time believing you're really being forced to read (and analyze) anything that shallow. People can think in drastically different ways - if you're not great with themes & symbols, you shouldn't blame your teacher/instructor/professor (who, if they're working in English, is guaranteed to have studied literature professionally).[/QUOTE]
Here we have a small recital from famous writer S. Fry. As you can see, the writing style represents Fry's sadness and pain, due to the hard tribulations he faced throughout his life. He also is critical of the writing work of others, claiming some to even be "kindergarten-level", which signifies his loss of control over his heavy drinking habits.
[QUOTE=Taggart;32497333]Here we have a small recital from famous writer S. Fry. As you can see, the writing style represents Fry's sadness and pain, due to the hard tribulations he faced throughout his life. He also is critical of the writing work of others, claiming some to even be "kindergarten-level", which signifies his loss of control over his heavy drinking habits.[/QUOTE]
I can't stop reading your posts in your voice.
[QUOTE=smallfry;32497091]It's a device used to set the tone of a piece. In that (really well-done!) video, the George Orwell quote is just lifted from the original; it introduces the content by warning that a "big" government can easily cover up war crimes & injustices.
All media are created with purposes - in the "collateral murder" video, for instance, the editors were attempting to incite rage & rebellious sentiment against the seemingly oppressive, murderous U.S. military. You're right, though - quotes can be totally misused and end up having a weak emotional effect. For example, the loading screens from the recent Call of Duty games feature war-themed quotes from famous commanders and generals. Some of them might be [i]interesting[/i], but they don't mean anything because there's no context - they're just psuedo-intellectual filler. That's where a sarcastic description like
would be totally appropriate.
There's nothing wrong with searching for a suitable quote if it's truly suitable, right?
That's not "gold" at all! If you adhere strictly to the literal meaning of an author's words, chances are you'll end up missing most of the real content. If you're not a naturally left-brained or analytical person, you might find comfort in an image like the one you posted - I find it ridiculous. Any respectable literature would never waste prose on kindergarten-level stuff like [B]THE CURTAINS WERE BLUE[/B] or [B]JOEY ATE SAUSAGE FOR BREAKFAST[/B], so I have a hard time believing you're really being forced to read (and analyze) anything that shallow. People can think in drastically different ways - if you're not great with themes & symbols, you shouldn't blame your teacher/instructor/professor (who, if they're working in English, is guaranteed to have studied literature professionally).[/QUOTE]
I find this post ridiculous to be honest.
I agree wholeheartedly that a good quote can indeed set a great mood or invoke a powerful feeling in the viewer.
And yes there is something wrong with TRYING to find a suitable quote, at least for movies. When a scene is filmed with a quote already in mind and intended for it, the scene fully backs that up and invokes a true feeling and understanding. When a scene is filmed and the producers want to add something extra to it, they pour through books and such LOOKING for something relevant to the scene. When it is added to the scene the quote is hallow...empty...it isn't implied within the scene and feels forced.
I also commend you for reading my post, especially the part where i said
[QUOTE=mysteryman;32495539]
While i agree that there are plenty of things in a book an author uses to symbolize something, in english class even what the character fucking ate for breakfast represents some deep conscious allegory.[/QUOTE]
Oh, shit, wait....you didn't. Because you went ahead and jumped to the conclusion that i ignorantly shut out the authors words with a mental block and just go "LOL NOPE". I also beg to differ on "respectable literature (that) would waste prose on kindergarten-level stuff", most poetry RELIES on things like inanimate objects and scenery to convey some symbolism. THE CURTAINS WERE BLUE and JOEY EATING A SAUSAGE FOR BREAKFAST can be viably use in such situations in poetry.
In addition, i also was in fact forced to read and analyze shallow things like the above in english class. Last year for instance, our teacher had us analyze in "The Catcher in the Rye" when Ackley cut his toenails. I can get that it was used to convey that he was a crass slob, but NOOO that wasn't enough. Our teacher had us "delve in deeper to it". Ackley was a slob and cut his toenails and left the clippings on the floor, he was lazy and dirty, the end. There is nothing more to that, but our teacher INSISTED there was.
I'm not great with symbolism either as i don't often retain much when i read novels, although i read excessively. I tend to reread books numerous times just so i can retain knowledge and meainings from them. I also do blame my instructors for this in addition to my "adhd esque" personality. I blame them for the shit i mentioned above. There are times where things that were conveyed in black and white terms were somehow ambiguous enough that they HAD TO MEAN SOMETHING COMPLETELY UNRELATED which wasn't implied AT ALL.
[QUOTE=mysteryman;32498103]-textings-[/QUOTE]
oh god everything about english in media is true
nooooooooo
wat
[QUOTE=mysteryman;32498272]wat[/QUOTE]
tl;dr.
vidya game thread - nerde english shit
[editline]26th September 2011[/editline]
that no one gives a fuc about
I'm sorry guys, i don't want to fight anymore. We can just hug it out.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/CHsBK.png[/img]
the only possible outcome of mp cortex command
Irish news agency was claiming arma 2 gameplay was real IRA footage from the 80s.
Xbox Beta Key:
2P3VR-PKPHC-T9C4V-MK6C4-YPX2Z
PC Beta Key:
GDX7-5P94-G62X-WMMC-MNAQ
For BF3 have fun guys!!
[editline]27th September 2011[/editline]
just my left over keys for BF3
[QUOTE=DarkZero135;32511837]Xbox Beta Key:
2P3VR-PKPHC-T9C4V-MK6C4-YPX2Z
PC Beta Key:
GDX7-5P94-G62X-WMMC-MNAQ
For BF3 have fun guys!!
[editline]27th September 2011[/editline]
just my left over keys for BF3[/QUOTE]
Aww shit thanks man, just grabbed the PC code.
i get the pc one ok
[editline]27th September 2011[/editline]
Well fuck you
fuck programming hw, I could have got it :(
Hot off the gmod.
[img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14329594/stompitlikeitshot.gif[/img]
[editline]27th September 2011[/editline]
Is the gif playing for you guys?
It isn't for me.
[QUOTE=DarkZero135;32511837]Xbox Beta Key:
2P3VR-PKPHC-T9C4V-MK6C4-YPX2Z
PC Beta Key:
GDX7-5P94-G62X-WMMC-MNAQ
For BF3 have fun guys!!
[editline]27th September 2011[/editline]
just my left over keys for BF3[/QUOTE]
Why could I not have seen this earlier?
[editline]27th September 2011[/editline]
And as soon as I try the Xbox code and see it was used the beta finally goes up on PS3. Looks like I won't be getting my homework done tonight.
I havent payed attention to what you have to do to get to the beta, do you just pop in MOH and even then where do you go?
[QUOTE=Back_Slash;32512034]Hot off the gmod.
[img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14329594/stompitlikeitshot.gif[/img]
[editline]27th September 2011[/editline]
Is the gif playing for you guys?
It isn't for me.[/QUOTE]
Honestly it's just pathetic if it bothers you that much.
[QUOTE=ossumsauce;32513167]I havent payed attention to what you have to do to get to the beta, do you just pop in MOH and even then where do you go?[/QUOTE]
On the PS3 you get the early access if you have the limited edition of Medal of Honor and played one game online with it. It just pops up in the PSN store. Unfortunately the PSN store didn't update until 5:20 PM my time.
[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;32513492]On the PS3 you get the early access if you have the limited edition of Medal of Honor and played one game online with it. It just pops up in the PSN store. Unfortunately the PSN store didn't update until 5:20 PM my time.[/QUOTE]
Well whats your time, its 8:05 here.
[QUOTE=ossumsauce;32513601]Well whats your time, its 8:05 here.[/QUOTE]
I'm on mountain time here. If you go into the PSN store, go to search by title, and find Battlefield 3 the beta should be in there.
BF3 is sexy
[QUOTE=mysteryman;32513406]Honestly it's just pathetic if it bothers you that much.[/QUOTE]
to on my ridiculous amounts of spare time, make a half assed 2 frame gif?
no the mindset that you want to kill ponies out of hatred of a child's show.
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