[QUOTE=Ragdollpwner;19142274]I'm saying lets compare the movies because they were put out to be competitors. Now that both movies are out I was just wondering what people where thinking about both movies, got a problem with that?[/QUOTE]
Competitors? This ain't the gaming industry...
Saw Avatar. It's just a fantasy movie that says Americans are bad because we killed the Native Americans, but with amazing CGI and a happy ending.
D-9, however, is a gritty, Hobbesian view of how Human-Alien contact really should happen, with great CGI, good acting, and a quick-paced story with no "lull before the storm" scenes, possibly excluding the intro.
[QUOTE=Aegis°;19156606]I actually liked how humans were portrayed in District 9 a lot better. Even though the corporation were total assholes, you do see sympathizers in the form of protesters and government enforcing the company to have legal documents for the aliens to sign (or slap with their paws). With the documentary style explaining that they understand that MNU has malicious intent.
In Avatar, all you see was a bunch of asshole Marines who only care about killing stuff and the greedy corporate executive that only walk around with gunships and robots.[/QUOTE]
I think one of the things that would've improved Avatar would've been more focus on the personal conflict of the corporation owner bloke
I liked avatar more, but just barely, they were both amazing and I will be buying both on Blu-Ray. I think that District 9 was more emotionally connecting and deep, while Avatar was the 3D action movie that we always wanted. Comparing them doesn't feel right, because they were too different.
[B]FOOKIN PRAWNS[/B]
Anyway, movie wise I like District 9 better, but Avatar in 3-D is sex on screen.
I'm going to see avatar on saturday, is it worth the time?
Meh.
District 9: Pig + Gravity Gun + huge mecha + mercenary
Avatar: Aliens who can plug themselves into the environment and talk to it. And kill Huge Mechas
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;19180095]I'm going to see avatar on saturday, is it worth the time?[/QUOTE]
It's a good film all right, definitely worth the time. I just rage over it because it's so over-rated. I'd give it a 7/10 probably, maybe a little more.
I didn't really enjoy D9 that much, though it was a great movie. I thought Avatar was amazing and I enjoyed the fuck out of it.
District 9
I think that i should shoot myself for typing this but who cares right ?
[Quote]Without reading the thread and poisoning my view. (obvious spoilers somewhere in there) I would have to choose [B]District 9.[/B] Although I would have to say that most of this is MY OWN opinion, it is biased towards District 9 but I think there are some good points in here for the 'Pro District 9" team to use.
[B]Why I think District 9..[/B]
District 9 worked on so many levels for me, the director Neill Blomkamp worked allot of realism into it that gave it a gritty, realistic and brutal feel; all of those common words used to describe real life conflict.
We are presented with common themes present in the real city of Johannesburg, people being not racially or socially accepted, poverty, forced evictions, slums, guns, riots. The list goes on. Let's not forget the obvious xenophobia towards the aliens. The gravity of each scene in the movie is relevant to the plot and character development in either a direct or indirect manor. My father after watching the Bluray could easily tell as we dissected the movie a second time through.
This shows a world larger than the main character; each scene might not directly try to characterize Wikus; instead focusing on the character of the city, which is a living and breathing hate machine for the aliens. The movie has other characters and scenes that complement Wikus as a person who is stuck in a world that seems to be just outside our bedroom windows, or so the movie made me feel.
Wikus is an 'anti-hero' as opposed to the traditional 'hero' seen in Avatar.
The main character is racist and uses derogatory terms such as 'prawn' to refer to the aliens. One scene that sticks out to me the most in his pre-alien state is when Wikus aborts the aliens eggs with a blink of the eye. This struck a chord in myself that I hadn't really felt before.
It's a hard sensation to explain, since the opening of the film was so negative towards the aliens; the constant news interviews of how bad they are, and the footage of them looking through rubbish for food as well as riots and fires.
The abortion of the eggs and the popping sound made me feel as if something was amiss, not in the sense that something was necessarily wrong, just that it felt conflicting internally to see that happening in the presence of a human enjoying and making light of what was happening. He was killing an unborn creature, and it was socially accepted, and required to keep the population in check, another public problem of the aliens..
After Wikus starts vomiting and growing alien parts, the obvious outcome to me was that he would end up coming very close to becoming alien, shooting guns and saving the day and himself.
What this movie did that Avatar didn't is kept me guessing. Wikus didn't win, he's got to wait 3 years and it's not even sure that the alien, Christopher Johnson will even return to save him from his alien body.
District 9 didn't drip feed information to me, it fucking gave me nothing!
Down to the point where I was literally so engrossed and obsessed in obtaining more information that I didn't realize the movie had come to an end and the credits had rolled. The movie was shot SOELEY from Wikus view of the world. Yet we see two VERY different representations of what is perceived AS the world.
Pre-alien We see a poverty stricken alien slum with feral bottom feeding aliens causing havoc and concern for the residents of Johannesburg. We see MNU trying to make a difference and help the aliens live a better life a refugees on earth. They are doing our best to help the aliens and Johannesburg.
Post-Alien we see a man stripped down to the basics (similar to Avatar in a way) and forced to live like his oppressed alien buddies. MNU spreads lies, it wants to steal the alien tech and is merely using the Wikus to obtain its goal of using the tech with humans.
[B]The end and final notes (TL;DR lol)[/B]
Although they are not directly competing with each other, creatively or story wise, it is my belief that the movie that offers the better end user experience is District 9.
Wikipedia says that District 9 cost $30 Million to develop. Avatar cost $237 Million. The budget does have some say in the end quality of a product, specifically movies with such massive lifelike effects onscreen as these.
District 9 is a standing example that you don't need a massive budget to perform well, Sharlto Copley's acting ultimately triumphed over the CGI of Avatar; not due to him being human, not doe to his accent but his attitude.
It showed me that he was having a conflict of which side he has to now fight for, his body transforming into a horrid creature and the internal psychological battle about coming to terms with the loss of his wife and his former life.
What I have described is 100% capable with James Cameron's CGI. It's not a matter of a technological bottleneck but a simple matter of having a Hollywood hero character as opposed to a general everyday guy, who has qualities that are something more than a hard shell to have bullets wizz by.
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Both badass movies, but the guys accent in D9 takes the cake for me.
Avatar is just Pocahontas with blue people for Indians.
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[QUOTE=cortzxxx;19193564]Both badass movies, but the guys accent in D9 takes the cake for me.[/QUOTE]
I thought he was pretty cool. He was kind of a pussy in the beginning but really came out later.
District 9 portrayed the aliens as dumb worker bugs
Avatar portrayed the aliens as tree hugging Tolkien elves (they even resemble elves)
I haven't seen Avatar yet, but District 9 will probably be my pick for film of the year. Plus Avatar was so fucking expensive, but D9 wasn't.
They both had the message that we need to be kind to other species and treat them with equal respect. They both have a guy who turns into the alien species. Than they realize that what we are doing to them is wrong, and try to help them and screw over our species in the end. They both have a crazy Military guy who is trying to kill the main character who ends up getting killed in the end. Wow I never really realized how much these too movies are the same. But I like district 9 more.
District 9 fucking sucked.
In D9, humans are defensive about their territory- Earth. In Avatar, humans are invading an alien species' territory.
In D9, the main character is a family man, workin for his father in law. In Avatar, the main character is a loner, trying to make money to heal himself.
In D9, the main character has no desire to be an alien, since it keeps him from what he loves. In Avatar, the main character immediately loves being an alien, since it gives him something he does not have as a human.
In D9, the main character does not choose his fate. In Avatar, the main character chooses his fate.
These movies couldn't be more different, once you look past the 'oh look, aliens!' surface.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;19197073]In D9, humans are defensive about their territory- Earth. In Avatar, humans are invading an alien species' territory.
In D9, the main character is a family man, workin for his father in law. In Avatar, the main character is a loner, trying to make money to heal himself.
In D9, the main character has no desire to be an alien, since it keeps him from what he loves. In Avatar, the main character immediately loves being an alien, since it gives him something he does not have as a human.
In D9, the main character does not choose his fate. In Avatar, the main character chooses his fate.
These movies couldn't be more different, once you look past the 'oh look, aliens!' surface.[/QUOTE]
D9=scifi
Avatar=fantasy
Salt or pepper?
Found this in Bulmer's LAMO pictures thread.
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I haven't watched District 9 but I really enjoyed Avatar even though I weren't expecting much but I really got gripped with the characters.
"Let's compare a low budget movie to one of the most expensive movies in history"
D9 is better no contest.
I could've liked district 9, if it wasn't for the disguntingly nervous and dumb human that I had to watch for the whole movie.
[QUOTE=rathat48;19142307]Avatar was by far the best movie I have ever seen.
So you guys disagree that its my favorite movie? You don't know what I'm thinking![/QUOTE]
jesus christ get out more and start socialising
then you will realise that people can disagree and agree with your opinions
grow up
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;19197073]In D9, humans are defensive about their territory- Earth. In Avatar, humans are invading an alien species' territory.
In D9, the main character is a family man, workin for his father in law. In Avatar, the main character is a loner, trying to make money to heal himself.
In D9, the main character has no desire to be an alien, since it keeps him from what he loves. In Avatar, the main character immediately loves being an alien, since it gives him something he does not have as a human.
In D9, the main character does not choose his fate. In Avatar, the main character chooses his fate.
These movies couldn't be more different, once you look past the 'oh look, aliens!' surface.[/QUOTE]
They are very valid points, but all of them sit under the central theme of both movies. A human who changes sides to alien, with mishaps along the way.
That's it though. No other difference between that point and any glaring similarities. Also, the genres aren't the same, I'd call Avatar a Fantasy movie, since it is not glaring Science Fiction.
Does anybody else get really depressed when they watch D9?
I thought District 9 was a far better movie but Avatar was still entertaining.
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