Jon Tron vs Destiny / 4:21 AM - Zukriuchen: I Stand by JonTron, unironically - General

[QUOTE=Stroheim;51956994]"How dare you don't watch an entire 2 hour stream and only rely on twitch clips. Don't come back until you've spent two hours." Anyway, the amount of "I CAN'T TAKE JONTRON, GOODBYE FOREVER" posts on his subreddit is getting ridiculous. The guy's a dick, but you don't need to whip out the Hamlet over it.[/QUOTE] you guys are complaining about people calling jontron racist and yet refuse to watch the very material that viewpoint was formed from

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;51957002]you have hitler as your avatar like every other week so its pretty obvs brah [editline]13th March 2017[/editline] J"ews must burn"!NX[/QUOTE] Jinx McGasJews Jinxyklon B [QUOTE=Stroheim;51957000]Didn't Sgt. have a baby faced hitler one time?[/QUOTE] His entire mod election campaign was around that

Destiny's stream right now is hilarious.

I still think Jontron is funny and Im going to keep watching his videos.

i think jontron fell into a bad crowd after the whole "retarded" thing

[QUOTE=RB33;51957014]Destiny's stream right now is hilarious.[/QUOTE] this dude is a riot. i'm very impressed by destiny's ability to argue. i'm glad i found out about him, this is a very interesting conversation even if i know out of the gate who i agree with (hint: it's not the guy throwing around the words "ethno state") it's incredible how many facts destiny can pull out without having to even think. i can't fact check it all but he's very knowledged on what he's talking about. that's very fucking rare from debates like these, usually you just see emotions thrown at each other.

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;51957002]you have hitler as your avatar like every other week so its pretty obvs brah [editline]13th March 2017[/editline] J"ews must burn"!NX[/QUOTE] "kill all chinks" j!nx

[QUOTE=Wafflemonstr;51956727]He deserves the "abuse". His thoughts are unacceptable, [B]and the only reason I could see him coming out so open about them all of a sudden, is because he want to try to "redpill" his fans[/B]. Clearly that has backfired in a big way.[/QUOTE] You know, he addressed this before on his 2017 Q&A video that the reason he's been posting more political shit lately is because he feels like he wants to be more honest with himself politically wise, and since how everyone is pretty much doing the same he doesn't mind doing so.

[QUOTE=Butthurter;51957048]j!nx if its any consolation i wouldve sold all my asian daughters off to you before this but now im giving them to you free of charge[/QUOTE] Thanks I'll send hand picked rice in 1 months time

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;51957018]i think jontron fell into a bad crowd after the whole "retarded" thing[/QUOTE] I mean lets be fair, the whole "hyper-internet-Left" comes down on him like literally every two months for some stupid shit. Granted, now they have a "good" reason, but still, after a while you'd get so fucking sick of it.

[QUOTE=Jackald;51957012]See this is what i'm saying. This entire thread people have been saying "He literally said black people are inferior" when he didn't say that. He said some things that definitely sound a bit suspect, sure, but his words are definitely being exaggerated by an echo chamber of outrage.[/QUOTE] [url]https://www.twitch.tv/videos/128362374[/url] 1:16:46 and forward is where my paraphrasing came from. I would clip it but 30 seconds is too short and cuts off the talk.

[QUOTE=Gamerman12;51957019]this dude is a riot. i'm very impressed by destiny's ability to argue. i'm glad i found out about him, this is a very interesting conversation even if i know out of the gate who i agree with (hint: it's not the guy throwing around the words "ethno state") it's incredible how many facts destiny can pull out without having to even think. i can't fact check it all but he's very knowledged on what he's talking about. that's very fucking rare from debates like these, usually you just see emotions thrown at each other.[/QUOTE] Yeah he surprised me, and I didn't even know him before all of this. The fact that I came into the stream ready to defend Jontron, not even knowing this dude's name and came out liking Destiny and how he spoke is pretty telling of how well he debates.

[QUOTE=Jackald;51957036]If it's any consolation, I feel nothing but regret for posting in this thread.[/QUOTE] Was it as much of a regret as for never finishing con4essions?

[QUOTE=Duck M.;51956282]It's funny because I wasn't really aware of just how big Jon's following outside of Youtube was until I checked his twitter followers. He has 1.78 [I][B]MILLION [/B][/I]FOLLOWERS ON TWITTER. How in gods green earth are we [I]possibly[/I] pushing the argument that he has no influence outside of his primary content creation? This is boggling my mind.[/QUOTE] To be fair most of these people are probably following him for the funny tweets rather than the political shit he's been going on about recently. Like remember that prior to these few incidents the most controversial thing he was known for was saying "retarded".

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[QUOTE=Gamerman12;51957019]this dude is a riot. i'm very impressed by destiny's ability to argue. i'm glad i found out about him, this is a very interesting conversation even if i know out of the gate who i agree with (hint: it's not the guy throwing around the words "ethno state") it's incredible how many facts destiny can pull out without having to even think. i can't fact check it all but he's very knowledged on what he's talking about. that's very fucking rare from debates like these, usually you just see emotions thrown at each other.[/QUOTE] People call destiny and pseudo-intellectual, and he is to some degree, but the thing is he really tries to understand. In his January monthly update he said when he debates he wants to understand and empathize with people more.

That guy who's on Destiny's stream right now is a riot

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;51957113]To be fair most of these people are probably following him for the funny tweets rather than the political shit he's been going on about recently. Like remember that prior to these few incidents the most controversial thing he was known for was saying "retarded".[/QUOTE] Of course, but they're stil being exposed to the content that he's [I]currently[/I] putting out, which happens to be poltical discourse. Look at the now.

[QUOTE=patq911;51957172]People call destiny and pseudo-intellectual, and he is to some degree, but the thing is he really tries to understand. In his January monthly update he said when he debates he wants to understand and empathize with people more.[/QUOTE] I think that's factually untrue. He is completely honest about what subjects are outside of his expertise and what he doesn't know.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;51957178]I think that's factually untrue. He is completely honest about what subjects are outside of his expertise and what he doesn't know.[/QUOTE] Yeah was just gonna say this, Destiny already said he pretty much parrots experts on these topics. It's not like he has a degree in every subject he debates about.

[QUOTE=patq911;51957172]People call destiny and pseudo-intellectual, and he is to some degree, but the thing is he really tries to understand. In his January monthly update he said when he debates he wants to understand and empathize with people more.[/QUOTE] I mean don't me wrong, Destiny's a (nowadays) understanding guy, but like 2/3 times I've tuned in (granted before the JT thing), he''s kind of come of as a bit more on the Smug 'Im going to let you finish, but blah blah blah you're a fucking dumbass" kind of guy on stream

[QUOTE=Stroheim;51957215]I mean don't me wrong, Destiny's a (nowadays) understanding guy, but like 2/3 times I've tuned in (granted before the JT thing), he''s kind of come of as a bit more on the Smug 'Im going to let you finish, but blah blah blah you're a fucking dumbass" kind of guy on stream[/QUOTE] yeah when he's not trying.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;51957173]That guy who's on Destiny's stream right now is a riot[/QUOTE] Haha he's on his 7th beer

This took a sad turn

[QUOTE=shadow_oap;51957257]This took a sad turn[/QUOTE] We need Batman to throw Jon off a building and turn his face over so we can remember the good times when he would talk about boopin' ass games.

[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;51956550]JonTron is a racist. I still find his videos funny. I'll continuing watching his videos. I enjoy the content of a racist man. I am not a racist man. I just don't care. Am I supporting a racist? Technically yes, but at least I use ublock. Shit I said I'd stop on the top of page 16...[/QUOTE] That's pretty much my feeling on the matter. Disappointed and hopeful he'll come around but I'm not holding my breath. Still gonna watch his stuff.

[QUOTE=Tetsmega;51957237]Haha he's on his 7th beer[/QUOTE] 18 minutes later, 9th beer. this dude's gone off the deep end. he's going to become ghost. [t]http://i.imgur.com/p1O4BE8.png[/t]

[QUOTE=Gamerman12;51957296]18 minutes later, 9th beer. this dude's gone off the deep end. he's going to become ghost.[/QUOTE] He's also rambling on about how Africans have a average of 75 IQ because "the negroids" didn't have to deal with harsh living conditions and thus obtained darker skin and smaller brains

all of this is making me quite sad tbh jon gave me some of the best laughs i ever had but i'm feeling quite bleh regarding the situation

but black people keep stealing in his xbox guys come on