Jon Tron vs Destiny / 4:21 AM - Zukriuchen: I Stand by JonTron, unironically - General

I don't understand how destiny is losing a debate with any of these people. I seriously expected better debating from him. I'm sitting here listening to his Sargon debate and I've screamed at the screen about twelve times with how destiny should have responded to shut down Sargon. It's a shame he's fucked up and people have instantly turned on him. He's literally just arguing common sense when it comes to immigration. I have no clue why he's digging himself a hole by arguing about animation or whatever the fuck he's doing.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;51975276]Seeing how people were railing on PsychicPebbles earlier for a brief discussion with Destiny, and they're now doing the exact same thing but the other way around, I think this has less to do with either of these people and more to do with people on this thread wanting to antagonize [I]someone[/I] at any given time, no matter who that is. Like yeah Destiny fucked up but god damn this thread has one hell of a blind hate boner going on, the target just changes every dozen page or so.[/QUOTE] I'll criticize anyone who's an asshole. IDGAF if they're right or not. Right now, Destiny is being an asshole. That doesn't invalidate what happened before. But he's still being an asshole.

[QUOTE=Tudd;51975099]Destiny is an actual manchild who reacts badly to adversity and doesn't even realize it. [/QUOTE] So what you're saying is that he can count on your vote if he ever runs for president?

So I honestly haven't cared about this since the original debate, the fuck is going on with this thread?

[QUOTE=KillRay;51975365]youd think as someone with a music degree destiny would be more respectful to artists of any kind. idk dude[/QUOTE] Maybe he's just tilted from how his debate went earlier today. I've yet to watch it but it would make sense if he's lashing out so unusually.

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;51975308]You keep using these words I don't think they mean what you think they mean[/QUOTE] If there's one word Tudd doesn't know the meaning of, it's self-awareness.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51975306]Content Cop when.[/QUOTE] Sounds like you literally couldn't wait for Destiny to slip up so you could crusade against him.

[QUOTE=Tudd;51975099]Naked apes humor is intentional and he is self aware about it. Destiny is an actual manchild who reacts badly to adversity and doesn't even realize it. I mean I can say Naked Apes humor (and his voice) is not for everyone. He also isn't my grand example of what I follow, but I do enjoy his content.[/QUOTE] ah yes, you who like Naked Ape enjoy him calling people autistic and using images of people with down's syndrome as mockery you're disgusting

[QUOTE=rilez;51975343]What makes them childish: Destiny offering financial "advice" to animators, Ape calling people retards showing images of people with down syndrome, etc. What makes them wrong: Destiny misrepresenting animators and their incomes, Ape misrepresenting Destiny and others by showing clips out of context to construct a narrative (AKA what Leafy does) They both do the same shit, you're just quick to call one a manchild and find excuses for the other. I don't get it. Sargon is just as guilty of shitposting as the rest of them.[/QUOTE] Well I do agree with Naked Ape more than Destiny on policies, but to say I can't realize Naked Ape is also childish for using that humor is something I can admit is childish. I just really dont take it as harshly as everyone else on here does. Also Naked Ape did show the full clip of the incest debate if you watched beyond the intro, but even I acknowledge it is just better for others to watch the clip in itself. Though Destiny telling his friend to just commit suicide if he feels like it is just messed up regardless if Naked Ape commentated on it or not. But now I am really interested on why you put Sargon in with being just as bad. I mean surely you can recognize that the guy is way more cordial than both Destiny or Naked Ape?

[QUOTE=Mingebox;51975391]If there's one word Tudd doesn't know the meaning of, it's self-awareness.[/QUOTE] Also humor. If you think "humor" is the reason people don't like Naked Ape maybe consider the fact that most of the same people don't like Sargon or PJW or Milo or Crowder.

Destiny should really stop this inflammatory condescension thing. I guess if that's what he wants to do I can't stop him, but everyone was on his side and attacking people in an illogical fashion goes completely against what Destiny has been trying to push and is very quickly putting people on the side of Naked Ape and Jontron which are both two really shitty people.

[QUOTE=Tudd;51975398]Well I do agree with Naked Ape more than Destiny on policies, but to say I can't realize Naked Ape is also childish for using that humor is something I can admit is childish. I just really dont take it as harshly as everyone else on here does.[/QUOTE] You're either baiting, or have a fundamental misunderstanding of how FP works. Given how often you post here I have to imagine it's the former.

[QUOTE=Toothpick;51975393]Sounds like you literally couldn't wait for Destiny to slip up so you could crusade against him.[/QUOTE] Or sounds like Destiny is making a massive fool of himself right now, y'know, like he did in the past for quite some time now?

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[QUOTE=Tudd;51975398]I mean surely you can recognize that the guy is way more cordial than both Destiny or Naked Ape?[/QUOTE] He's slightly more composed but that doesn't make him good. Some of his videos are okay??? I still see him shitpost on Twitter just like the rest.

I haven't watched any of Desinys content yet today but it seems like I agree with him quite a bit when it came to the Sargon discussion. I've never really liked psychopebbles and he's been doing the same shit Jon has been doing on twitter but I don't really think it's right for Destiny to be attacking his personal business and career. It's way too petty.

I've just come to accept that most of these internet quasi-celebrities are absolute shitheads regardless of what their views are.

[QUOTE=Tudd;51975398]Well I do agree with Naked Ape more than Destiny on policies, but to say I can't realize Naked Ape is also childish for using that humor is something I can admit is childish. [B]I just really dont take it as harshly as everyone else on here does.[/B][/QUOTE] hey there you go with that argument again [img]https://puu.sh/uhoPu/f359909168.png[/img] Hint: you don't take his spastic shit-flinging as harshly [B][I]because you are not the target[/I][/B], you oblivious dolt

[QUOTE=rilez;51975436]He's slightly more composed but that doesn't make him good. Some of his videos are okay??? I still see him shitpost on Twitter just like the rest.[/QUOTE] I mean to be fair, you don't really get anything else but shitposting when arguments are limited by 140 characters.

[QUOTE=Toothpick;51975393]Sounds like you literally couldn't wait for Destiny to slip up so you could crusade against him.[/QUOTE] I know you like looking for opportunities to yell at me for whatever reason but no, i actually enjoy the guy when he's not doing whatever the hell this is. I dont actually care whether or not iDubbbz actually did a content cop or not, thats mostly me being facetious. What i do want is for him to stop being a dick.

[QUOTE=Gwoodman;51975445]I've just come to accept that most of these internet quasi-celebrities are absolute shitheads regardless of what their views are.[/QUOTE] Harsh, but rather egalitarian way of looking at things. This is why I focus my opinions on arguments rather than people. Stefan Molyneux seems like a generally repellent person, but he has made some compelling arguments in the past, as one particularly outside-the-box example.

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;51975449]hey there you go with that argument again [img]https://puu.sh/uhoPu/f359909168.png[/img] Hint: you don't take his spastic shit-flinging as harshly [B][I]because you are not the target[/I][/B], you oblivious dolt[/QUOTE] I get called a lot of mean and horrible things on here though and don't react harshly to it.

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;51975449]hey there you go with that argument again Hint: you don't take his spastic shit-flinging as harshly [B][I]because you are not the target[/I][/B], you oblivious dolt[/QUOTE] Also the thinly veiled assertion that people don't like Naked Ape because they are thin-skinned babies and not because he, you know, lies in a particularly vicious manner.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51975455]I know you like looking for opportunities to yell at me for whatever reason but no, i actually enjoy the guy when he's not doing whatever the hell this is. I dont actually care whether or not iDubbbz actually did a content cop or not, thats mostly me being facetious. What i do want is for him to stop being a dick.[/QUOTE] "i was ironically being stupid" [editline]17th March 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Tudd;51975469]I get called a lot of mean and horrible things on here though and don't react harshly to it.[/QUOTE] you like negative attention because in your mind you think it means you've defeated them in some weird sadistic way

[QUOTE=Toothpick;51975478]"i was ironically being stupid"[/QUOTE] Why do you always do this. And no i wasnt being ironically stupid, i was being normal stupid. Because sometimes is say stupid things.

[QUOTE=Tudd;51975469]I get called a lot of mean and horrible things on here though and don't react harshly to it.[/QUOTE] ?????? Of course you fucking react harshly to it, lmao You just do it by proxy and post [I]other[/I] people calling liberals sheltered retarded cucks It's as transparent as it gets that you're just dying inside to say that shit yourself, dude

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Also Sargon really is no better. He's been on record misrepresenting studies, has been shown not even reading those studies or even referencing the incorrect ones. He's more interested in pandering to the anti-SJW crowd and outrage culture than he is in being an upstanding intellectual. I guess his discussion with Desinty is a good start (again, I haven't watched it yet but I will when I get home) but he has to come a long way if he gets any respect or credibility for me. I mean, just a couple of days ago he rehosted Destinys content out of context with inflammatory titles a la WSJ. He's a hypocrite with a concerning lack of consistency that suggests he's too committed to causing drama and getting views.

[QUOTE=Primigenes;51973904]Sargon is an idiot. Nobody wants to be a fucking construction worker.[/QUOTE] probably because people like you make vocational work out to be something below, something shameful that only the poors and immigrants do

[QUOTE=Toothpick;51975478]"i was ironically being stupid"[/QUOTE] Nothing in his post transmitted that, stop being a dolt.