Jon Tron vs Destiny / 4:21 AM - Zukriuchen: I Stand by JonTron, unironically - General

[QUOTE=Tudd;51975469]I get called a lot of mean and horrible things on here though and don't react harshly to it.[/QUOTE] I dunno man, the way people here hate Trump and how you go as far as editorializing titles and spamming anti-left videos to make him look good makes that a little arguable

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51975306]*post about how it needs a content cop*[/QUOTE] IDubbbz doesn't need to waste his time on this bullshit.

[QUOTE=Tudd;51975469]I get called a lot of mean and horrible things on here though and don't react harshly to it.[/QUOTE] OK, I don't like doing this but: You literally got completely and utterly annoyed at me because I rated a few of your posts dumb. Then when I replied to that with a few points I thought you'd address... you called me triggered. Are you sure you don't react harshly to things?

[QUOTE=ChronoBlade;51975521]IDubbbz doesn't need to waste his time on this bullshit.[/QUOTE] Yes, i already addressed this.

[QUOTE=Gwoodman;51975507]I dunno man, the way people here hate Trump and how you go as far as editorializing titles and spamming anti-left videos to make him look good makes that a little arguable[/QUOTE] Can you stop for a second and realize you're posting in a thread about Destiny? bitch about this somewhere else, I'm sick of hearing it on unrelated threads.

[QUOTE=Tudd;51975452]I mean to be fair, you don't really get anything else but shitposting when arguments are limited by 140 characters.[/QUOTE] Not everyone shitposts on Twitter... and even if they did, is that really his best excuse? That everyone else does it? The argument you called Destiny a manchild over... happened on Twitter. There's a real lack of consistency here

In respect to all three people in this great debate, no one should be voicing their opinion on the internet. ESPECIALLY since they all have some kind of public figure to maintain. Destiny, Jon, and whoever the fuck Sargon is all debated points with no reference or source, or straight up lied about. None of this would be a thing if everyone just kept their opinion to themselves.

[QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;51975537]Can you stop for a second and realize you're posting in a thread about Destiny? bitch about this somewhere else, I'm sick of hearing it on unrelated threads.[/QUOTE] Actually, it was about JonTron initially then it twisted a little between Sargon/Naked Ape and then Destiny but it's cool, tell the instigator to stop tho he's the one shitposting, dunno why you quoted me of all people replying to him

[QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;51975537]Can you stop for a second and realize you're posting in a thread about Destiny? bitch about this somewhere else, I'm sick of hearing it on unrelated threads.[/QUOTE] as soon as a discussion involves tudd, it just has to stop happening apparently? Just reading the chain of posts that got us to Gwoodmans post there, it's not like it was just brought up out of the blue, it's a tangent but a related tangent to this discussion

[QUOTE=SenhorCreeper;51975537]Can you stop for a second and realize you're posting in a thread about Destiny? bitch about this somewhere else, I'm sick of hearing it on unrelated threads.[/QUOTE] He is responding to an argument Tudd is making in defense of Naked Ape's content which is perfectly on topic. If you don't want to see his posts, set him to ignore, report him to a mod, then kick rocks.

So what'd destiny do today can I get a [I]quick rundown[/I]?

[QUOTE=BackSapper;51975543]In respect to all three people in this great debate, no one should be voicing their opinion on the internet. ESPECIALLY since they all have some kind of public figure to maintain. Destiny, Jon, and whoever the fuck Sargon is all debated points with no reference or source, or straight up lied about. None of this would be a thing if everyone just kept their opinion to themselves.[/QUOTE] I have no idea who Destiny is and you are absolutely right about JonTron but the problem is "having opinions on the internet" is literally Sargon's only marketable skill so that will be a little hard for him.

[QUOTE=BackSapper;51975543]In respect to all three people in this great debate, no one should be voicing their opinion on the internet. ESPECIALLY since they all have some kind of public figure to maintain. Destiny, Jon, and whoever the fuck Sargon is all debated points with no reference or source, or straight up lied about. None of this would be a thing if everyone just kept their opinion to themselves.[/QUOTE] That only really applies to Jon. Destiny and Sargon have a significant focus of heir content on politics.

If this entire thread and on the side my past experiences have ever taught me anything, it's definitely this: don't idolize or give too much credit to people you barely know, even if they look nice and / or cool on the surface. Destiny ironically fell into the same trap for some.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51975569]So what'd destiny do today can I get a [I]quick rundown[/I]?[/QUOTE] He started shitting on PsychicPebbles (including making baseless assumptions about him having a cushy lifestyle and coming from money while also telling him to kill himself) when Zach said its possible for blue collar workers to take pride in their work, and then in doing so spouted off a bunch of misinformed shit about internet animators that managed to piss off a bunch of the animation community. He's still digging the hole as we speak.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51975549]as soon as a discussion involves tudd, it just has to stop happening apparently? Just reading the chain of posts that got us to Gwoodmans post there, it's not like it was just brought up out of the blue, it's a tangent but a related tangent to this discussion[/QUOTE] Because this discussion contributes to nothing, you're in the wrong thread in the wrong time, is Tudd instigating what you're complaining about first? great, let him do his thing, don't throw further wood into the fire that is the bitching about his political opinions. It's one thing arguing about his points on the thread, it's another complaining that he spams anti-left video on Facepunch and how he tries to paint Donald Trump into a good light. Posts like this [QUOTE=Mingebox;51975379]So what you're saying is that he can count on your vote if he ever runs for president?[/QUOTE] are not even related to the discussion in hand, it somehow went to Destiny vs Naked Ape to Tudd's argument to Tudd's Facepunch etiquette, it's stupid.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51975591]He started shitting on PsychicPebbles (including making baseless assumptions about him having a cushy lifestyle and coming from money while also telling him to kill himself) when Zach said its possible for blue collar workers to take pride in their work, and then in doing so spouted off a bunch of misinformed shit about internet animators that managed to piss off a bunch of the animation community. He's still digging the hole as we speak.[/QUOTE] whew so is this in the sargon talk and twitter?

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51975607]whew so is this in the sargon debate and twitter?[/QUOTE] Yeah.

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;51975492]?????? Of course you fucking react harshly to it, lmao You just do it by proxy and post [I]other[/I] people calling liberals sheltered retarded cucks It's as transparent as it gets that you're just dying inside to say that shit yourself, dude[/QUOTE] I actually don't think in that way about Facepunch and the community here. I like to post content that breaks up the political consensus, but I actually really like the community as a whole.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51975607]whew so is this in the sargon debate and twitter?[/QUOTE] He started it right after the debate with Sargon.

[QUOTE=Tudd;51975610]I actually don't think in that way about Facepunch and the community here. I like to post content that breaks up the political consensus, but I actually really like the community as a whole.[/QUOTE] *proceeds to post BERNIE SANDERS IS A FUCKING MORON PART 2: REVENGE OF THE LIBCUCKS and berate anyone who doesn't listen to 10 minutes of alt-right leafy shitting on their entire ideology*

[QUOTE=Tudd;51975610]I actually don't think in that way about Facepunch and the community here. I like to post content that breaks up the political consensus, but I actually really like the community as a whole.[/QUOTE] your last few threads have been pretty much a stretch of this to the extreme It's like posting O'Keefe and expecting people to take it seriously, and not have people apply the rational doubt they should which IIRC you have actually done

[QUOTE=Tudd;51975610]I actually don't think in that way about Facepunch and the community here. I like to post content that breaks up the political consensus, but I actually really like the community as a whole.[/QUOTE] No one gives a shit what you think about Facepunch. Stop making this thread about you and baiting people into getting banned. You asked for examples of Naked Ape lying. I provided.

[QUOTE=Tudd;51975610]I actually don't think in that way about Facepunch and the community here. I like to post content that breaks up the political consensus, but I actually really like the community as a whole.[/QUOTE] You're breaking up the political consensus with content ranging from people yelling in their microphone on how "an opposing politician is a cuck and none of his concerns should matter" to heavily editorialized news articles making a non-issue story the hottest shit in the political word. The amount of /pol/ that radiates off of you is annoying, and that's what gets on a lot of people's nerves. You discredit a lot of peoples opinion because they're more Liberal than Conservative, and don't even reflect back on your own comments of the nature. Recently, you've only been banned due to political discussion. Maybe you should reflect on that, and see how you want to post alternative content in a proper way, and accept that someone else has a different opinion than yours.

The problem with Tudd is that he lowers the quality of any argument he involves himself in by being unnecessarily contrary on principle, and when people call him out on it, it completely derails the thread and becomes a "why is Tudd still here" "what is Tudd doing wrong" debate. I'd almost feel sorry for him if his own self-stated purpose wasn't to be a contrarian for laughs. The only way to win is to just not fucking respond to him when he's making awful posts. I'd be enthralled if we could enact that effective immediately in this thread, but I'm neither a moderator nor anyone important. Destiny's opinion (and his cohorts'/guests') is largely irrelevant. You don't sway opinion by gibbering like a caustic idiot. Martin Luther King Jr. didn't amass a millions strong movement and end centuries of systemic and civil atrocities by taking the podium and going "I WISH I COULD BE WHITEY AND DRINKING AT THE WHITE FOUNTAINS, GO OFF YOURSELVES." He did it by using sound logic, reason, and fellowship combined with specific and educated action. You could be preaching the word of Jesus reincarnate himself, nobody cares if you're an inflamed asshole about it.

[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51975522]OK, I don't like doing this but: You literally got completely and utterly annoyed at me because I rated a few of your posts dumb. Then when I replied to that with a few points I thought you'd address... you called me triggered. Are you sure you don't react harshly to things?[/QUOTE] It was actually you who called me "literally triggered" first. I only returned the same language you used because I was asking you sincerely what was wrong with my moderate opinion at the time. [quote=blackmagemari]First off: no, and stop being so delicate and going "wah woah is me" every time someone disagrees with you. You seem to get literally triggered by every, single, dumb.[/quote] From around December.

random question out of nowhere but I've read that Jon is half-Persian and has immigrant Iranian parents, is any of this true?

[QUOTE=Tudd;51975362]Given enough time, maybe even people on here will start supporting Sargon. :v:[/QUOTE] [This is what Tudd actually believes]

[QUOTE=Gwoodman;51975682]random question out of nowhere but I've read that Jon is half-Persian and has immigrant Iranian parents, is any of this true?[/QUOTE] Yeah, his dad is Iranian, his mother is Hungarian iirc.

[QUOTE=Gwoodman;51975682]random question out of nowhere but I've read that Jon is half-Persian and has immigrant Iranian parents, is any of this true?[/QUOTE] Yes that's true. EDIT: as araon said I think his mom is Hungarian.