Jon Tron vs Destiny / 4:21 AM - Zukriuchen: I Stand by JonTron, unironically - General

[QUOTE=Paincake;51979619]I thought that this thread would have actual news and information about how this is affecting Jon's career. Instead everyone is just stalking a twitch streamer who is way under the spectrum. Talk about unhealthy obsessions.[/QUOTE] Yeah god forbid people talk about the other half of the debate, wow

if anyone cares destiny is talking about the animation shit on his stream right now he's being a lot more reasonable than he was when he was tweeting

Okay I lied, I got one last post up my sleeve then I'll stop coming here. Wanted to get used to GIMP outside of my project, so here's a shitty edit. I'm (not) sorry. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/jyE6WOc.jpg[/IMG] [sp]I thought about adding the Nazi symbol on there and twitter/Youtube sinking in the background, but I think it would have been too much.[/sp] Still gonna watch JonTron.

[QUOTE=Sonador;51979455]Exactly what part of that was a joke? It's sarcasm. The man is a waste of space. He was an integral factor in someone killing themselves and has learned absolutely nothing from the experience.[/QUOTE] one of his friends came to him and told him he was suicidal and he said that at the end of the day it's his choice. 20 years ago AND he said he regrets that the most out of everything in his whole life

destiny on his recent twitter memes: [URL="https://clips.twitch.tv/EasyHilariousDiscHoneyBadger"]https://clips.twitch.tv/EasyHilariousDiscHoneyBadger[/URL]

Destiny always used to go on stupid fucking rants out of nowhere, even back when he was a Starcraft II pro. I like Destiny, but he's seriously gotta chill sometimes. It's the same reason he got released from Quantic Gaming, because his sponsors got too tired of his tangents.

[QUOTE=HAKKAR!!!;51979646]one of his friends came to him and told him he was suicidal and he said that at the end of the day it's his choice. 20 years ago AND he said he regrets that the most out of everything in his whole life[/QUOTE] Yes, and I'm sure he does, given he regularly tells people to kill themselves. :rolleyes:

Wow this thread is still very active

"Slit your own throat and drown in a pool of your own blood" 40(?) year old speaking to a 16 year old on the topic of switch "Boobie Streamers" The guy needs to chill out or just learn when to shut up.

[QUOTE=Joem1k;51979615][media]https://twitter.com/JonTronShow/status/841180301627912192[/media] Surprised this didn't get posted yet or i didn't notice it in the pages upon pages of debating BUT, i think with this tweet and boogie's, jon is having some serious regret about this whole situation.[/QUOTE] I'm just going to stop reading and posting in this thread from this point forward; it's been too much for me, honestly. Watching Jon completely break down from his mistakes and overall the constant shitflinging has left the most godawful taste in my mouth. Should've realized from the beginning this wasn't going to end well for anyone.

[QUOTE=Sonador;51979727]Yes, and I'm sure he does, given he regularly tells people to kill themselves. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] You can say something and not mean it.

[QUOTE=Rockeiro123;51979761]You can say something and not mean it.[/QUOTE] That's a pretty bad excuse. "I didn't mean to go on a 6 minute tangent describing how I want this kid to slit his throat because he disagreed with me, I'm actually very level headed!" You could turn around and say the same thing about JonTron. You'd be wrong, but you could still say it.

I wonder if universe C is boring in comparison to our universe T.

[QUOTE=Rockeiro123;51979761]You can say something and not mean it.[/QUOTE] Can you not see the flaw in the logic of "20 years ago I had the opportunity to stop my friend from killing himself, but I didn't and it is the greatest regret in my life, by the way kill yourself ha ha just joking" Jesus Christ.

[QUOTE=Primigenes;51979853]Can you not see the fact that your train of logic is dumb as shit. "20 years ago I made the mistake in not urging my friend to refrain from suicide after countless personal conversations and it is now my biggest personal regret." And then "20 years later someone pissed me off and in an irrational bout of anger I said kill yourself on the internet on a livestream" You think you're getting some wicked zinger for connecting two different things off of superficial reasons. Meanwhile anyone who can actually read context can see that there is no reason to bring up his friend's suicide when he's obviously mad and upset unless you want to be a dick. Your posts is basically "Yeah bro, how the fuck do you tell me to kill myself when your friend kill himself and you failed to stop it!! You're a shit person wtf." Is anyone supposed to take that seriously? Someone with critical thinking would look at the source of the problem which is that Destiny's being mad as shit instead of trying to guilt trip him with things he's divulged of his own accord in the past. I swear anyone in real life would fight you and no one would bat an eye if you brought up their friend's suicide.[/QUOTE] :dogwow: You're right, I'm sure the single thing you regret most in life has no impact on something you do on the regular with such vehement passion that you describe it in gory detail. Sorry I was so ostensibly digging for zingers that I believed it was basic logic that a friend killing themselves might make a decent person not tell someone to kill themselves. You can't make this shit up. Consider the following: [I]try not telling people to kill themselves if you don't want to be criticized for it.[/I] Wow!

[QUOTE=Arc Nova;51979768]That's a pretty bad excuse. "I didn't mean to go on a 6 minute tangent describing how I want this kid to slit his throat because he disagreed with me, I'm actually very level headed!" You could turn around and say the same thing about JonTron. You'd be wrong, but you could still say it.[/QUOTE] I'm not excusing it, but someone who uses it as freely as destiny does it clearly doesn't hold any weight anymore. He's used it so much it's lost all meaning it's just another expression to him. Not excusing his use of the expression but I think it's important to understand that things mean different things to different people and just because it hold weight for some doesn't mean it should hold weight for everyone.

I suppose, it's just anytime I hear someone say "Dude just slit your throat and die already drown in your own blood" there's just no way I can take them seriously anymore, it comes off sounding childish. It's not even a great insult or anything it's just makes you look like a manchild that doesn't know when enough is enough.

[QUOTE=Rockeiro123;51979761]You can say something and not mean it.[/QUOTE] This is some "Kill all jews does not objectively mean gas the kikes" level of deflection

[QUOTE=Zenreon117;51979427]Well, there's videos like [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NYCJLSE7xE"]this[/url] which are purely analytical. But I'm sure you would prefer to bring out things like when he trolled a feminist by tweeting that he wouldn't even rape her. He meant this in the most straightforward and basic way possible, but as a result people took it as a rape threat or an attack on her looks. His shitposts have a purpose as well most of the time, but they aren't something you should point to when trying to analyze his actual reasoned and well-presented opinions.[/QUOTE] I've never given a single fuck about his "I wouldn't rape you" comment and I've never met anyone who has. You shouldn't expect a man who's buried himself in anti-SJW hysteria to be reliable. He's a conspiracy theorist, a fearmonger, and he's obsessed with SJWs to the point where its warped his perception of reality. The fact that you've brought me a video of him likening his enemies to a religion before a mostly atheist audience and claim that it's "analytical" only proves my point. Honestly you seem butthurt that people aren't bowing before the great lord Sargon and his infinite wisdom that doesn't exist.

[QUOTE=Tetsmega;51979916]This is some "Kill all jews does not objectively mean gas the kikes" level of deflection[/QUOTE] I only wish Primigenes' obfuscations of the same logic took as much time to read.

[QUOTE=Arc Nova;51979909]I suppose, it's just anytime I hear someone say "Dude just slit your throat and die already drown in your own blood" there's just no way I can take them seriously anymore, it comes off sounding childish. It's not even a great insult or anything it's just makes you look like a manchild that doesn't know when enough is enough.[/QUOTE] I agree, you have to be a in a completely different state of mind to go on a 6 minute rant about how you want to slit someone's throat compared to just blurting out "kill yourself" when you're mad at someone on twitter. I just thought it was necessary to make a distinction.

As much as I'm on Destiny's side I don't really think there's much defending his "kill yourself" comments.

I honestly think destiny just has an extremely bad habit of saying it, I have an awful habit of swearing my self and it can be hard to kick, especially if you spend most days in debates against some ridiculous people. personally, I really don't think we have enough background to be shitting on him over what happened with his friend committing suicide, he himself could've been in a bad place I could be wrong on both of these things ofc

[QUOTE=Primigenes;51979927] Basic logic dictates that one understands that most people when mad aren't thinking "I can use any insult to hurt this guy besides "Go kill yourself" [/QUOTE] A normal person would actually think "I can use any insult to hurt this guy besides "go kill yourself" because I'm not a child stuck in an adults body"

Casual use of the term kill yourself, or even more flavorful/descriptive versions of the same has been a staple in internet and gaming circles for [I]years[/I] just the same as faggot, retard, nigger, etc. and I really don't understand why you guys are so hung up on this. You can not like their usage all you want, but that isn't going to stop people from using them as they have for many years and it doesn't make anybody that does some piece of subhuman trash like you seem to think. Destiny knowing a person that killed himself (yes, even regardless of his involvement) has virtually nothing to do with his casual use of kill yourself, because everybody reacts differently and making light of serious situations can be cathartic. You're being purely driven by personal emotion on the matter, and it isn't even relevant in the first place.

[QUOTE=Pretty Obscure;51979966]Casual use of the term kill yourself, or even more flavorful/descriptive versions of the same has been a staple in internet and gaming circles for [I]years[/I] just the same as faggot, retard, nigger, etc. and I really don't understand why you guys are so hung up on this. [/QUOTE] I guess I'm part of the "gaming circle" but I've never told someone to kill themselves or even called someone a faggot retard or nigger since I was like what 12? 13? maybe? maybe I have just more self respect

[QUOTE=Pretty Obscure;51979966]Casual use of the term kill yourself, or even more flavorful/descriptive versions of the same has been a staple in internet and gaming circles for [I]years[/I] just the same as faggot, retard, nigger, etc. and I really don't understand why you guys are so hung up on this. You can not like their usage all you want, but that isn't going to stop people from using them as they have for many years and it doesn't make anybody that does some piece of subhuman trash like you seem to think. Destiny knowing a person that killed himself (yes, even regardless of his involvement) has virtually nothing to do with his casual use of kill yourself, because everybody reacts differently and making light of serious situations can be cathartic. You're being purely driven by personal emotion on the matter, and it isn't even relevant in the first place.[/QUOTE] It is true that this is common discourse on the internet. But the internet is mostly made up of children.

[QUOTE=Pretty Obscure;51979966]Casual use of the term kill yourself, or even more flavorful/descriptive versions of the same has been a staple in internet and gaming circles for [I]years[/I] just the same as faggot, retard, nigger, etc. and I really don't understand why you guys are so hung up on this. You can not like their usage all you want, but that isn't going to stop people from using them as they have for many years and it doesn't make anybody that does some piece of subhuman trash like you seem to think. Destiny knowing a person that killed himself (yes, even regardless of his involvement) has virtually nothing to do with his casual use of kill yourself, because everybody reacts differently and making light of serious situations can be cathartic. You're being purely driven by person emotion on the matter, and it isn't even relevant in the first place.[/QUOTE] I dunno about everyone else but I'm hung up on it because he pity partied on reddit about his buddy killing himself and tells people to kill themselves. I get kys is part of the internet hate jargon, but you don't get to have both. Just because it's common doesn't make you a very good person for doing it, either. Places like Overwatch will give you community suspensions for that shit. It's a mark of unintelligence or emotional immaturity.

[QUOTE=Duck M.;51979943]As much as I'm on Destiny's side I don't really think there's much defending his "kill yourself" comments.[/QUOTE] idk about the other guys but im not defending him telling people to kill themselves and being an edgelord because he's dumb as shit doing that, but comparing that to a real life mistake he made with his best friend many years ago that he clearly regrets is kinda laughable

Like, when you play a game and some guy is losing it over the mic calling people retarded faggot niggers and telling children to kill themselves do you not just sit there and think "jesus christ this fucking guy is insane" and it just becomes laughable to you how someone can get that heated over a videogame? basically my view of destiny [editline]18th March 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Primigenes;51980003]Lol ok, normal people don't say "go kill yourself" at times when they're angry. Stop wasting peoples time if you're not going to converse realistically. [/QUOTE] lmao if that's what you do when you're angry, hey fine dude. Just know you come off as a manchild when doing so. control your emotions friend and to answer your question about why people put up "hang obama" signs when they were angry, I have the answer. they're stupid too.