James Cameron's Avatar - General

[QUOTE=Majache;19108280]Though to be honest the design was pretty derivative. But it was more of a cerebral than visual movie.[/QUOTE] Moon's design was derivative on purpose, so it wouldn't detract from the acting. Though it was certainly updated to work with modern ideas about lunar colonization. I especially liked the way they designed the base as a kind of bunker structure because they envisioned it as using Lunarcrete.

[QUOTE=Majache;19108371]It doesn't matter who has more people on their side. That doesn't make you right. It matters who has the best argument.[/QUOTE] No, it doesn't, it matters what the individual likes. It doesn't matter if it's cliche or any of that shit, it's the level of enjoyment it brings.

[QUOTE=Majache;19108280] Well, because your claim of it being a good movie is unsubstantiated. And my claim of it being a sucky movie isn't.[/QUOTE] You hating the movie is nothing more than an opinion. Why the FUCK can't you realize that? You just won't shut the hell up until people agree with you 100 percent? We both know that's not going to fucking happen. So why bother?

[QUOTE=Jallen;19108343]Why can't you just enjoy the film and not compare it to everything else /go all heated discussion on it?[/QUOTE] Well maybe because we're in a thread that's specifically about discussing the movie?

[QUOTE=Majache;19108371]It doesn't matter who has more people on their side. That doesn't make you right. It matters who has the best argument.[/QUOTE] Couldn't have said it better. You're obviously no longer here to discuss the movie. You're just trying to make this place into some debate club. Stop embarrassing yourself.

[QUOTE=Jallen;19108343]And of course the majority of people who gave these films user ratings disagree with you too. Which really boils down to you being in the minority with your opinion.[/QUOTE] The majority of people thought "Transformers" was a good movie. The majority of people voted for fucking GEORGE W. BUSH TWICE. The majority of people are fucking idiots.

[QUOTE=Performual;19108436]Couldn't have said it better. You're obviously no longer here to discuss the movie. You're just trying to make this place into some debate club. Stop embarrassing yourself.[/QUOTE] You couldn't have said it any better either. *applause*

[QUOTE=Warren Holzem;19108440]The majority of people thought "Transformers" was a good movie. The majority of people voted for fucking GEORGE W. BUSH TWICE. The majority of people are fucking idiots.[/QUOTE] What's that quote from Men In Black? "A person is smart but people are stupid"

[QUOTE=Jallen;19108398]No, it doesn't, it matters what the individual likes. It doesn't matter if it's cliche or any of that shit, it's the level of enjoyment it brings.[/QUOTE] No. That's like saying that "Twilight" novels are "good books" because they're popular.

[QUOTE=Warren Holzem;19108440] The majority of people voted for fucking GEORGE W. BUSH TWICE. [/QUOTE] Actually, the first "victory" he had was debatable, but it is without a doubt unbelievable that he got a second term after the first.

[QUOTE=Skyward;19108414]You hating the movie is nothing more than an opinion. Why the FUCK can't you realize that? You just won't shut the hell up until people agree with you 100 percent? We both know that's not going to fucking happen.[/QUOTE] It's a substantiated opinion. That's somewhat different. For example, If I say that Miley Cyrus music is shit, I can support that. Because it's derivative, she has no musical talent, she has no feeling in anything she says, she has nothing separating her from any of the other hot chicks with microphones from the last two decades. If I say Miley Cyrus music is awesome, I can't support that. Or, I'd like you to find me someone who can. Yeah, so what if people don't agree with me in the end? That's their problem, not mine.

Saw this today, my god it was good. It's a cheesy, predictable story that was pulled off amazingly with the cgi, simple dialogue and just amazing scenery. The ending was nice too, films like this usually have disappointing endings.

[quote=zero-point;19108484]actually, the first "victory" he had was debatable, but it is without a doubt unbelievable that he got a second term after the first.[/quote] :911:

[QUOTE=Warren Holzem;19108440]The majority of people thought "Transformers" was a good movie. The majority of people voted for fucking GEORGE W. BUSH TWICE. The majority of people are fucking idiots.[/QUOTE] Actually I think he lost the second popular vote. But whatever.

[QUOTE=Warren Holzem;19108385]Though it was certainly updated to work with modern ideas about lunar colonization. I especially liked the way they designed the base as a kind of bunker structure because they envisioned it as using Lunarcrete.[/QUOTE] They didn't envision it as using lunarcrete actually, they didn't know about that stuff till after making the film. I was at a screening for moon with the director and producer, and they mentioned a story of how at an earlier screening someone from Nasa told them about mooncrete when someone else asked them why they chose to make the base as a bunker instead of something more temporary looking. but meh now we're getting a bit off topic

[QUOTE=iamgnome;19108526]Saw this today, my god it was good. It's a cheesy, predictable story that was pulled off amazingly with the cgi, simple dialogue and just amazing scenery.[/QUOTE] Bad story + Bad dialogue + Good CGI ≠ Good movie

[QUOTE=Warren Holzem;19108479]No. That's like saying that "Twilight" novels are "good books" because they're popular.[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_iVRcLAYc0[/media]

I've never heard of Moon before. Was it a UK movie? Sometimes I hate living in the states, you miss a lot of foreign gems while being force fed all the Hollywood bullshit like Transformers and GI Joe

[QUOTE=Warren Holzem;19108562]Bad story + Bad dialogue + Good CGI ≠ Good movie[/QUOTE] man you must be so cool with your critical opinion

[QUOTE=Warren Holzem;19108562]Bad story + Bad dialogue + Good CGI ≠ Good movie[/QUOTE] Thank you.

Spoony and his bro did a review about it. They think it looks nice, but other than that they're unimpressed. [url]http://spoonyexperiment.com/2009/12/20/vlog-12-19-09-avatar/[/url]

[QUOTE=Warren Holzem;19108440]The majority of people thought "Transformers" was a good movie. The majority of people voted for fucking GEORGE W. BUSH TWICE. The majority of people are fucking idiots.[/QUOTE] The majority of people voted obama too.

[QUOTE=iamgnome;19108612]man you must be so cool with your critical opinion[/QUOTE] You must be so cool with your uncritical opinion. See how that works? Now, when do we get to that part where you start hurling playground insults about my mother?

[QUOTE=TunnelSnake;19108595]I've never heard of Moon before. Was it a UK movie? Sometimes I hate living in the states, you miss a lot of foreign gems while being force fed all the Hollywood bullshit like Transformers and GI Joe[/QUOTE] It's on blu-ray jan 12th. Pick up a copy. You won't regret it.

[QUOTE=Performual;19108436]Couldn't have said it better. You're obviously no longer here to discuss the movie. You're just trying to make this place into some debate club. Stop embarrassing yourself.[/QUOTE] It's a fucking forum. Isn't that almost by definition the most fit place for a debate?

[QUOTE=Majache;19108641]You must be so cool with your uncritical opinion. See how that works? Now, when do we get to that part where you start hurling playground insults about my mother?[/QUOTE] no I'm not cool because I'm bandwagoning duh I wasn't gonna say anything but since you brought it up you can have all the pleasure of "your mother"

[QUOTE=postal;19108645]It's on blu-ray jan 12th. Pick up a copy. You won't regret it.[/QUOTE] Yeah I was sold as soon as I found out Kevin Spacey was in it.

[QUOTE=Zero-Point;19108484]Actually, the first "victory" he had was debatable, but it is without a doubt unbelievable that he got a second term after the first.[/QUOTE] Kerry was not a better candidate than Bush. He really wasn't. The first victory is much more unbelievable, Gore would have been perfect.

[QUOTE=Majache;19108519]It's a substantiated opinion. That's somewhat different. For example, If I say that Miley Cyrus music is shit, I can support that. Because it's derivative, she has no musical talent, she has no feeling in anything she says, she has nothing separating her from any of the other hot chicks with microphones from the last two decades. If I say Miley Cyrus music is awesome, I can't support that. Or, I'd like you to find me someone who can. Yeah, so what if people don't agree with me in the end? That's their problem, not mine.[/QUOTE] You are still claiming my opinion is wrong. You can say "the movie sucked for its plot", but that's only how you view it. I myself enjoyed the whole movie, even the plot. You can give me a whole list of why [i]you[/i] didn't like the plot, but that doesn't mean I feel the same way.

[QUOTE=BlueSaint;19108633]The majority of people voted obama too.[/QUOTE] Only because the alternative was a geriatric and a dimwitted hick from Alaska.