[QUOTE=Deutschbag;19250054]I liked the movie, but throughout its entirety, though I knew who the movie wanted me to sympathize with, I just couldn't. I was rooting for the humans all the way through.
I hope the sequel consists of them returning to Pandora and glassing it from orbit.[/QUOTE]
Sequel isn't set on Pandora
Just found out a new IMAX screen opened on the 18th near me, just booked up to see this on new years eve! :dance:
[QUOTE=jcallan;19251734]Sequel isn't set on Pandora[/QUOTE]
Te Production Director (If I rember correctly, maybe some other rank title) said that it will take place in the core of Pandora.
[QUOTE=SEKCobra;19251892]Te Production Director (If I rember correctly, maybe some other rank title) said that it will take place in the core of Pandora.[/QUOTE]
That doesn't make sense.
[QUOTE=Carnage2323;19249556]Honestly I didn't think the effects in the movie were all that great and the story was really dumb, mostly do to it's way of making the Military these "American" marines that are all war mongers wanting to kill everything, including the General. Honestly, if Earth needed this places resources they would just napalm the fuck out of these aliens, much more cheaper than what they planned don't you think? That's only if they failed to cooperate of course.
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Also, sadly people all bought into this stuff so of course it made it past it's massive price.[/QUOTE]
Not to mention that they would have thousands of scientists studying the local plant and animal life to see if any of it could be used for food, medicine, or who knows what else. A planet's value isn't just in the rocks underground, and it seems retarded that a corporation that had enough money to send hundreds of people that far away and set up a base like that would not consider trying to find other ways to make money off the planet.
[QUOTE=SEKCobra;19251892]Te Production Director (If I rember correctly, maybe some other rank title) said that it will take place in the core of Pandora.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://marketsaw.blogspot.com/2009/12/marketsaw-exclusive-avatar-sequel-scoop.html[/url]
They will explore the other satellites of Polyphemus and also the Alpha Centauri A solar system.
[QUOTE=FreDre;19253277][url]http://marketsaw.blogspot.com/2009/12/marketsaw-exclusive-avatar-sequel-scoop.html[/url]
They will explore the other satellites of the Alpha Centauri A solar system.[/QUOTE]
If that involves Humanity finding more Unobtainium, yet it being denied by some environmental message, I swear to God...
[QUOTE=benos;19249504]She's so bad, she's good.
She was alright in Lost, maybe there was some hate. She was just a character you love to hate.
Though she was got punished by getting killed in Lost thanks to Michelle and Cynthia drunk driving.
I liked her in SWAT, sure, why not, bad acting, I didn't mind it. It was about action.[/QUOTE]
If Buttercup was Hispanic and acted really bad it would be Michelle Rodriguez. ta daaaaa
[url]http://chud.com/articles/articles/21969/1/PROJECT-880-THE-AVATAR-THAT-ALMOST-WAS/Page1.html[/url]
This talks about the original script that James Cameron wrote back in 1995
I've read the beginning of it and it's pretty cool, too bad that Cameron didn't followed his original ideas
Here's a resume of the most important aspects in the original script:
[B]Attention: spoilers[/B]
[quote]
- Earth and its environmental problems are explored
- We see Josh Sully's Avatar being born
- It's revealed the Avatar program exists to train Na'vi to be an indigenous workforce for the Corporation, since it's so expensive to send human workers
- There are more humans, including a bioethics officer on the take, a video journalist, a head of the Avatar program and a second military dickwad
- There is an Avatar controller who is burnt out because his Avatar died with him in it. He committed Avatar suicide because he had fallen in love with a Na'vi girl who had been killed by the military
- The Avatars have a Na'vi guide named N'Deh, who is sleeping with Grace
- Grace survives the soul transfer
- Josh Sully gains the Na'vi trust by being a member of the community. He also excels in a major hunt
- Josh Sully shows his leadership not by taming a dragon but by leading a raid on Hell's Gate to rescue prisoners
- Josh Sully isn't the only Na'vi to ride a big dragon
- Pandora is a living entity and it sees the humans as a virus; it has been mobilizing the plants and animals to attack all along because it wanted to force the humans out
- There is no unobtainium beneath Hometree. The military just wants to wipe out the local Na'vi to send a message to all the tribes that they must be obeyed.
- Some of the humans and the Avatar controllers rise up in the final big battle
- Josh Sully tells the Earth that Pandora will give any humans that return a disease that will wipe out humanity
The differences between the scriptment (which I'll call Project 880 from here on in) and the finished film are immediate from the first page. In Avatar Cameron feels like he is rushing to get to the Na'vi, and we begin the movie off Earth. Project 880 spends time establishing Earth and the life of wheel-chair riding ex-Marine Josh Sully (there are a number of character name changes between 880 and Avatar); the opening page of 880 presents a very Blade Runner dystopia - rainy and gray and filthy and high tech. The people are miserable and stink because of water shortages. The entire surface of the Earth is essentially industrialized, and there are even cities spread out across the Moon. There are no longer national parks, and Yosemite is pointed out as a posh condo community. Josh lives in a megalopolis that takes up the entire Eastern seaboard of the United States, and his cramped, prison-like apartment is located where North Carolina is today.
This is the Earth of 100 years from now, and Project 880 takes its time setting this world up. Earth isn't just polluted (with filth as well as waste from nuclear terrorism) and ugly, it's literally doomed; extinctions have destroyed the planet's biodiversity and its entire ecosystem has collapsed. Humans scrape by because they can turn sea algea into food, and most waterfront property has been turned into manufacturing for the protein farms. This is an Earth where the people aren't just urban, they've completely and utterly lost touch with anything green. Keep this in mind, because this is one of the guiding elements of what makes Josh fall in love with Pandora.[/quote]
[QUOTE=FreDre;19253323][url]http://chud.com/articles/articles/21969/1/PROJECT-880-THE-AVATAR-THAT-ALMOST-WAS/Page1.html[/url]
This talks about the original script that James Cameron wrote back in 1995
I've read the beginning of it and it's pretty cool, too bad that Cameron didn't followed his original ideas
Here's a resume of the most important aspects in the original script:
[B]Attention: spoilers[/B][/QUOTE]
That's badass.
[QUOTE=FreDre;19253323][url]http://chud.com/articles/articles/21969/1/PROJECT-880-THE-AVATAR-THAT-ALMOST-WAS/Page1.html[/url]
This talks about the original script that James Cameron wrote back in 1995
I've read the beginning of it and it's pretty cool, too bad that Cameron didn't followed his original ideas
Here's a resume of the most important aspects in the original script:
[B]Attention: spoilers[/B][/QUOTE]
That would have been a better movie IMHO
[QUOTE=TunnelSnake;19254067]That would have been a better movie IMHO[/QUOTE]
would have be crazy long though, I think he cut it down because of this.
Could have made it as two or three movies. 3 hours for one film is really pushing it. Could have added the removed content to make it 4 hours and split it somewhere in the middle.
[QUOTE=Bean-O;19254319]Could have made it as two or three movies. 3 hours for one film is really pushing it. Could have added the removed content to make it 4 hours and split it somewhere in the middle.[/QUOTE]
I bet you walked out of Inglourious basterds aswell because you don't have the patience to concentrate on a movie that doesen't go 10 minutes without killing someone or blowing something up.
[QUOTE=MortalK0mbat;19254363]I bet you walked out of Inglourious basterds aswell because you don't have the patience to concentrate on a movie that doesen't go 10 minutes without killing someone or blowing something up.[/QUOTE]
No because Inglorious had an amazing storyline and characters and character development, unlike Avatar.
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;19254471]No because Inglorious had an amazing storyline and characters and character development, unlike Avatar.[/QUOTE]
character development? lol, there was no character development at all. you are an idiot who doesen't even know what it means, and now you're going to get back at me by rating me dumb.
[QUOTE=MortalK0mbat;19254648]character development? lol, there was no character development at all. you are an idiot who doesen't even know what it means, and now you're going to get back at me by rating me dumb.[/QUOTE]
No I'll rate you dumb too because there was plenty of character development in Inglorious. Stop acting like you know shit when you're just being an asshole
[QUOTE=TunnelSnake;19254667]No I'll rate you dumb too because there was plenty of character development in Inglorious. Stop acting like you know shit when you're just being an asshole[/QUOTE]
lol, I know right. And you just got trolled too. Well. Guess I'll see you in a week. Or never again if I get perma'd
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[QUOTE=MortalK0mbat;19254689]lol, I know right. And you just got trolled too. Well. Guess I'll see you in a week. Or never again if I get perma'd[/QUOTE]
oh wow you were a troll how clever. he really showed us.
[QUOTE=TunnelSnake;19254718]oh wow you were a troll how clever. he really showed us.[/QUOTE]
i sure did
[QUOTE=MortalK0mbat;19254648]character development? lol, there was no character development at all. you are an idiot who doesen't even know what it means, and now you're going to get back at me by rating me dumb.[/QUOTE]
You are dumb. You are allowed to have opinions but if you think others can't have theirs, welll.
[QUOTE=3v3ryb0dy;19254880]You are dumb. You are allowed to have opinions but if you think others can't have theirs, welll.[/QUOTE]
:< somenbdoy on teh internetsh cal me dumbe!!!11
[QUOTE=MortalK0mbat;19254933]:< somenbdoy on teh internetsh cal me dumbe!!!11[/QUOTE]
You're not even a good troll, so just stop wasting your time. Go troll bungie.net, it's way easier
[QUOTE=TunnelSnake;19254991]You're not even a good troll, so just stop wasting your time. Go troll bungie.net, it's way easier[/QUOTE]
thxe m8
Back to the script treatment:
I really liked the part where Jake saw his own Avatar being born and then he carries it into his arms, it could have been a very beautiful shot.
The introduction on earth was pretty cool; there is a scene when the two men in suit from NDA invites Jake for a dinner to eat real meat, which is extremely rare since earth has consummated almost all of his resources. That scene remembers me the one from The Matrix where the agents are with Cypher also dinning. I guess that Cameron noticed the similarities between the two.
There are a lot of things pretty sweet in that treatment, it is really a shame that it all got changed radically.
Maybe it's because Cameron wanted to make it a huge franchise so it could rival Star Wars, so he had to 'dumb' it down drastically, to have a much better mass appeal.
I'm betting that for the sequels he'll make it much more darker in tone with more scifi elements into it, to have a better and more complex plot.
Looks really over-hyped and lame.
Got my tickets for an hour from now, going to watch Digital 3D, do they give you any glasses or something? What glasses are they? Those red and blue ones or "sunglasses"-ish.?
[QUOTE=MortalK0mbat;19254648]character development? lol, there was no character development at all. you are an idiot who doesen't even know what it means, and now you're going to get back at me by rating me dumb.[/QUOTE]
MARGHERITTI
[sp]Decocco[/sp]
[QUOTE=DarkSpirit05er;19256534]Got my tickets for an hour from now, going to watch Digital 3D, do they give you any glasses or something? What glasses are they? Those red and blue ones or "sunglasses"-ish.?[/QUOTE]
THey have invisible stripes, on both glasses in another direction, so the eye searches its picture.
Saw the movie, loved it despise many stupid points there. Like the water on a floating island.
Alot of stuff was unexplained, like the floating isles, why does that goddamn thing cost so much, why does all the animals have those rastas if only smurfs use them etc.
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