Angry, sad, depressed, miserable, feeling hopeless? Come here and lets help each other out! - General

I see there's "how is therapy different from talking to a friend?" "Therapy is bullshit and all they do is give you pills to make you dead inside" "Therapy doesnt work for me, thus as a whole its completely useless" fuckmyautomerge ok where to begin. I think the first bit was the first to come up. So as you all know there are many different types of therapy when it comes to psychology and most people think of the 'sit on the couch and talk about your mother' kind which is psychoanalysis. This is a massive topic so im gonna try and condence it. First you need to look at who is giving the therapy. Obviously a Ph.D holder is going to be able to do a hell of a lot more than your best friend that has little to no clue as to what your brain/mind is doing or whatever. Now you have 3 degrees of psychology, PhD, PsyD, and social work. Psychiatry is the medical world of psychology where you are an MD in psychology, this is the only one that allows you to actually prescribe drugs and not be limited to referring you to a physician like some psychologists are limited to. So If you walk into this guys office and you see a degree on the wall be happy, THIS IS IMPORTANT. YOU DO NOT NEED A LICENCE TO PRACTICE PSYCHOTHERAPY. This is a major problem in the field that means anyone can practice 'therapy' and have no idea what the fuck they are doing. Now i know we hear all of these stories about how a friend is seeing a psychiatrist and all they do is give pills and shit and dont really fix your friends problem, but there is a large majority where it does help and... im going to get back to this later. Anyway, since people can open up shop and claim to be a Shrink, morons waltz into their office and often come out worse than before. Since people hear these stories they think the shrink was a legitimate psychologist and give the whole field a bad name. These 'psychotherapists' have no idea what they are doing to the point where they can destroy families by implementing group therapy. There have been cases where someone goes into one of these sessions and they explain they have some trust issues or other problems that they want fixed. The shrink thinks that it was from a traumatic event in their past because that's what every noob who follows Freud thinks, that something happened during a stage or they were abused or molested and thats why they have these problems. They only know (and dont even fully understand) the psychoanalytical model and put them into group therapy. In this group therapy they have a bunch of people with the same problems and some with actual abuse from their past and some with no abuse in their past. What ends up happening is the people who were never abused by their loved ones, become convinced that they were, subconsciously, and resent their parents and literally tears the family apart. This is how bad it can be. So just to elaborate, PhD is the best, second is PsyD the only real difference is pay and effort, its fucking hard to get into PhD programs where you essentially get payed to do research in PhD in PsyD no. And Social work is for people that listen to your problems or family issues and if it is above their skill or training they refer you to a specialist. Now that was explaining different types of therapists from the pros to the fucking noobs that dont know what they're doing. This is going to explain the "all they do is give pills and make you dead inside" and explain the different models of psychology. Now when people hear the word psychiatrist they immediately think of pills. Thats because they are a MD and learn heavily in medical school the Medical Model. The Medical Model and Behavioral Model are the two biggest ones used to treat mental illness, and this is both a good and bad thing. Some Medical model followers can get tunnel vision and only blame chemical imbalances in the brain and only give prescriptions instead of looking at alternatives. This is where you hear the stories about "oh his therapist only gives him pills and it turns him into a zombie, its not helping the problem", and this is true ESPECIALLY when the doctors are corrupt. What i mean is, some get payed to prescribe these pills from the company that makes them, so naturally they are either over-prescribing or wrongfully-prescribing. Im not even sure if its illegal (i think it might be). So that is why you hear people getting shit treatment. Also just because they are doctors doesnt mean they care, you get people only looking for the money and not caring if they fix your problem or worse want to keep you coming back then you need to find someone else quick. Ok onto the behavioral model, these are the people who try to not use drugs and focus on things like conditioning and learning. They look at correcting the behavior and stopping it before it even happens, etc. For example my job uses the behavioral model where i implement a plan on a client to reduce and stop their problem behaviors (autistic children, finding methods to keep them from becoming aggressive and use a more socially acceptable way of getting their needs). The good thing is, it can cure the problem but the bad is that it just doesnt work and frustrated the people involved. The best way is to combine the two, ex you can have a client that needs to first be given medication to calm their arousal and make it so they can concentrate on the behavioral therapy. There are also models in psychology like Cognitive, social, psychoanalytical, and more, each has their benefits but the best is using all of them. I feel like i could write a lot more, but i think this is sufficient. And for the last bit, "therapist didnt do shit for me so they are useless for everyone else". Fuck off, it works for so many other people, just because you lack the intelligence or the balls to go find another therapist doesnt mean the whole system fails, you failed. It would be like saying, the cashier didnt know where my favorite brand is, instead of going to another store or asking the manager im going to say the whole foods industry sucks dick. Also to add to the friend/therapist thing, your friend may know more about you but they dont know how to fix it. Proper therapists have years of experience and thousands of clients, they probably have had a case similar to yours and can combine treatments from other clients' data to help you. They also know all the different treatments and multiple ways of approaching it so thats why they would be a lot better for real problems. If your problem is that you arent sure you should stay with your girlfriend of 2 years because you dont think you love eachother blah fucking blah, you can talk to a friend about that. Suicide on the other hand, as long as its serious, you should see someone. (what i mean by serious is that some people post about suicide and shit only to get attention and shit, those people dont need a psychiatrist. Its when you really think about it, start planning it, and think about the consequences of it is when you need a therapist asap.)

I was supposed to meet my therapist almost year ago, he haven't contacted me at all and recently I just got a letter saying that i'm alright now.. well yeah. I still think about suicide few times a day and probably would do it if I wasn't such a pussy. I stopped eating those crappy pills many months ago, weed has been best thing in my life lately. Wish I had some now. I just can't get anything done with my life. I graduated 2 years ago and been unemployed since. I haven't studied enough to get any of those jobs I dream of and I didn't get accepted to any school I applied to. I have some people to talk to but well. Its always been this way that I keep things to myself until they are totally fucked up and I break. Hell its a fucking challenge for me to do a damn phone call. On top of this I have this gambling addiction that is totally getting out of hands. I play all money meant for rent or months food. I try to stop and have closed most my accounts but well.. there is always a new casino to play at. I can't even go to clubs with my friends because if there is a blackjack table I will play until I have nothing left. I feel like I need help but I don't look for it and wouldn't probably take it anyway.. I'm just tired..

Life starts good, turns to shit, gets better, turns to even more shit, gets a little better, gets horribly fucking worse, starts looking up, dips a little bit, gets much better to the point where you feel like it'll all be okay, then turns to shit, gets better, etc. There's no stopping it unless you want to rely on the small chance there's life after this one. Just hold on to the good moments while you have them, and think about the good ones when you don't. The most we can do is live, learn, laugh, and love. On that note, my cousin who was closer than a brother to me shot himself a week ago and I've been completely fucked up on gear since about 3 hours after it happened. If I didn't know how badly suicide hurts those around me, I would have painted the walls with my brains by now. Just fucking wish it could go back to how it was.

[QUOTE=Nick Nack;34936553]Life starts good, turns to shit, gets better, turns to even more shit, gets a little better, gets horribly fucking worse, starts looking up, dips a little bit, gets much better to the point where you feel like it'll all be okay, then turns to shit, gets better, etc. There's no stopping it unless you want to rely on the small chance there's life after this one. Just hold on to the good moments while you have them, and think about the good ones when you don't. The most we can do is live, learn, laugh, and love. On that note, my cousin who was closer than a brother to me shot himself a week ago and I've been completely fucked up on gear since about 3 hours after it happened. If I didn't know how badly suicide hurts those around me, I would have painted the walls with my brains by now. Just fucking wish it could go back to how it was.[/QUOTE] What is gear?

Lol so this thread just took a turn for the worst, now we get to discuss how shitty our lives are and that we contemplate suicide...

[QUOTE=steven688;34936655]What is gear?[/QUOTE] Diacetylmorphine/heroin. I still don't know where I picked up that nickname for it.

Guys smook greenie beenies from your billy bongz and just get bleezied [video=youtube;K4FSew0vmUQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4FSew0vmUQ&feature=channel_video_title[/video]

[QUOTE=Mac2468;34921870]im not denying the power of meditation, im just saying its not a magic cure all[/QUOTE] i would know its not a magic cure all because i meditate and im pretty fucked myself [editline]29th February 2012[/editline] not that it doesnt help some

[QUOTE=Nick Nack;34936716]Diacetylmorphine/heroin. I still don't know where I picked up that nickname for it.[/QUOTE] I have heard it be referred to as coke before

For the past month I've been seeing a social worker about my depression. He has done more for me in 4 sessions than 10 years of psychiatry ever did.

[QUOTE=Dr. Disciple;34938064]Guys smook greenie beenies from your billy bongz and just get bleezied [video=youtube;K4FSew0vmUQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4FSew0vmUQ&feature=channel_video_title[/video][/QUOTE] Jesus Christ.. This guy makes me cringe so much. :( e: Where the fuck is StayBlazed?

Well guys, for the first time in my life im truly scared... my mom had a heart attack 3 weeks ago and recovered fine, went in for cat scan to make sure everything was just fine and they found multiple "nodules" in her lungs they think it may be cancer. I want to try to be as optimistic about this as possible but god damnit don't let it be cancer... I don't know what to think about other than that right now. We have no insurance or money and im not sure if they will treat her if it is cancer without getting their fat fucking check...

this thread makes me feel bad about being feeling depressed/suicidal because I don't have any real problems in my life

[QUOTE=En-Guage V2;34957875]this thread makes me feel bad about being feeling depressed/suicidal because I don't have any real problems in my life[/QUOTE] you shouldn't feel bad, more often than not a large part of depression is a chemical thing. It's why people get sad in the winter, and why manic depressives like myself can't really control it

[QUOTE=strayebyrd;34959725]you shouldn't feel bad, more often than not a large part of depression is a chemical thing. It's why people get sad in the winter, and why manic depressives like myself can't really control it[/QUOTE] Thats because of your serotonin and Dopamine levels are low

[QUOTE=confinedUser;34960248]Thats because of your serotonin and Dopamine levels are low[/QUOTE] yeah that makes a lot of sense because the way I felt on my MD comedown was really similar to intense depressive states I've been in

I just had a panic attack because since 2-3 days Ive been thinking a lot about death and It scares the shit out of me because Im afraid that conscience stays when you die, like... that would mean I would do anxiety thourough all the "afterlife" and therefore suffer for infinity... Im illogic , but shit.......

[QUOTE=toastman;34881355]Ok, so I feel like shit. Life is boring, and the only way for me to enjoy life and make something out of it is when I drink way too much alcohol, roll on E or be so far gone I dont even know what I am anymore. Life seems so pointless. Eat, drink, do your work, sleep, repeat, repeat, weekend, relaxation, repeat. Still got my bro's but they are autistic as fucks. Feel misserable for not having a girlfriend or having a real good time in like 3 years or so. The only times I remember enjoying life is when I was high on something, and now I think fo those times it just feels like a gimmick. I have tried to take drugs to make this feeling go away, (K, alcohol and benzo's like valium) but it just makes me feel like a machine, it does not solve the problem. I just feel empty. Also OP, don't kill yourself. Not worth it. If you dont care about being "alive" or dead, go do the things you have always wanted to do. Make life an advanture. After all you got nothing to lose. Just see how life forms after that, go with the flow. I dont got the balls to do it because I cant and wont leave my family behind as I do not want other people to feel like me.[/QUOTE] Story of my fucking life. I know nothing of myself anymore, and I have no expectations of myself. I see no future in my education, my last friends I barely speak with or in reality can't stand. I don't know, hitting rock bottom's actually been the best part of my life. A steap hill downwards all the way, and now I'm finally going horizontally, or even if it's just an average part of life. I got nothing better to do, so I end up thinking about what I could've done instead of sitting here, and by now I've pretty much concluded every single way of entertaining myself to extremes. Life just doesn't seem as satisfying as it used to be. My temptational requirements (or whatever) has been increased so high that I find no joy in anything. I may be laughing to your jokes, I may be smiling in a friendly matter, but behind the cover it's just me waiting to leave or something entertaining to happen. It hasn't became all about life and death, giving birth and passing on to the next world, now it's just all about the next minute of your life as it slowly counts to an end, and how you make the most of it. An eternal fight till the clock runs out. [editline]5th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=feloix13;34981669]I just had a panic attack because since 2-3 days Ive been thinking a lot about death and It scares the shit out of me because Im afraid that conscience stays when you die, like... that would mean I would do anxiety thourough all the "afterlife" and therefore suffer for infinity... Im illogic , but shit.......[/QUOTE] anxiety is ignoreable after the worst possible has happened to you. I've literally been sitting in a dark corner with hands on my neck screaming for help in a panic anxiety madness, after that it's just some ridicoulus flaw that you can live by. Don't be afraid, you just always gotta remember to see and live the bright sides of life.

[QUOTE=feloix13;34981669]I just had a panic attack because since 2-3 days Ive been thinking a lot about death and It scares the shit out of me because Im afraid that conscience stays when you die, like... that would mean I would do anxiety thourough all the "afterlife" and therefore suffer for infinity... Im illogic , but shit.......[/QUOTE] I used to think this way too... Well...when i was like 12. I used to think also that i might turn into a ghost and end up floating through space for all eternity. Now i've just accepted death is death and when you die you're going to be free.

[QUOTE=Blazed.I.Stay;35005057]I used to think this way too... Well...when i was like 12. I used to think also that i might turn into a ghost and end up floating through space for all eternity. Now i've just accepted death is death and when you die you're going to be free.[/QUOTE] you have no choices when you're dead... and every choice in the world when you're not!!

That's why you enjoy the time you have, no need to be afraid of death because it's completely inevitable. Fearing death is a waste of life.

what is this hippie bullshit i can fear death erryday

420 fear death, waste life errday

life isn't wasted if you are enjoying yourself

How can you enjoy yourself while freaking out about dying?

I misread it as 420 smoke weed, waste life erry day My bad

you don't have to [B]freak out[/B] about dying but that doesn't mean I want to

Im just not keen on pain before death :v:

i wouldn't want to be sleeping when i died.

I would