• Martial Arts
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[QUOTE=Behemoth_PT;38146139]I'd love to do Capoeira. It's actually pretty fun and effective after you master it. [video=youtube;nJTrXxsv2-4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJTrXxsv2-4[/video] Either if you do it for fun or for fighting it's pretty rewarding to learn.[/QUOTE] Woah never knew that capoeira was that affective.
[QUOTE=Rago;38315100]Woah never knew that capoeira was that affective.[/QUOTE] only when your opponent literally has no idea what it is and you have been doing it for fun since your teenage years in the favelas i know lots of brazilians. here's the secret to beating capoeria fools throw straight. straight punches, straight kicks, move straight. it's a very angled attack style, and it was designed to combat other capoeria artists, not boxers. notice the kicks? they all spin and take a full revolution? right when you see him step in with his lead leg, you give him a spartan kick to his chest, flatten him and start pounding away. he starts moving his head side to side while closing the distance? time it, when he picks up a leg, you fire off your right hand straight down the pipe. it's really not that hard to fight against, nobody trains against it so they have no idea what to do.
Going with a physics explanation. The farthest part of the body that rotates over the axis (in this case the leg) is the one that carries the most aceleration, therefore, the most force. Knowing this, just do the math and try to get near the center of rotation as fast as possible where the force is minimal. from there, you either strike or you grapple. Of course it seems very simple, except most of professional capoeira fighters that do MMA are obviously prepared for that, hence the distance they keep from the opponent and the always offensive stance.
[QUOTE=NO ONE;38274364]Well at my Karate dojo, they had a party over the weekend, which they always do, during the night. I didn't go, but that's because when I did go about 2 years ago, I didn't exactly like it. It's just that the dojo kills the atmosphere. It's like trying to have a party in a hospital or something. We didn't do any martial arts, but it didn't change the fact we were "partying" in a [i]dojo[/i]. It was just so lame :( The Christmas Eve class/party/whatever is better though. Much more enjoyable, and we each get a chance to run a part of the class. I've been going every year. At the MMA gym I go to, it's completely different. They don't really give a shit about any occasions. They just train train train train. The motto for the gym is "You Talk. We Train.". They believe in partying [i]after[/i]. They seldom close on holidays unless everyone says they won't come in. But then again there have been a few non special days that nobody came in...but still, they put a lot of effort in to what they do.[/QUOTE] At the TKD place I used to go to, we had a Korean master who had been practicing for 40 years. If we had a party in the dojang, there may have been blood. Or at least someone scrubbing the toilets.
[QUOTE=wallyroberto_2;38342737]At the TKD place I used to go to, we had a Korean master who had been practicing for 40 years. If we had a party in the dojang, there may have been blood. Or at least someone scrubbing the toilets.[/QUOTE] Heh. Not like the parties were done without the knowledge of our instructor. He planned them himself. But I can definitely see other schools being much more strict and not having parties or any screwing around.
Learnt a few valuable lessons in boxing the other day 1. Don't go lunging in, 9/10 times your opponent has more experience then you and will dodge and counter. 2. Always keep your gaurd up no matter how fast you think you are. 3. You can take a punch and your jaw wont shatter so don't be afraid, but don't be cocky either. 4. A punch to the nose doesn't seem like much, but then you realise there's blood gushing everywhere and you're trying to hold your nose with your bloody gloves still on.
[QUOTE=slamex;38360215] 2. Always keep your gaurd up no matter how fast you think you are. [/QUOTE] speak for yourself bitch!!!
Tang Soo Do, as well as some mixed martial arts and Japanese Jujitsu. Lots of fun, and much *safer* than boxing. Plus, the sparring matches are a bit more interesting, in my opinion, than boxing matches. Tex
Been doing Martial Arts Tricking for just over 2 years now. It's less of a competitive martial art and more of a performance art, drawing on elements of TKD, Wushu, and Capoeira while using acrobatic elements from gymnastics and breakdancing. So much fun.
[QUOTE=Steamtex;38390224]Tang Soo Do, as well as some mixed martial arts and Japanese Jujitsu. Lots of fun, and much *safer* than boxing. Plus, the sparring matches are a bit more interesting, in my opinion, than boxing matches. Tex[/QUOTE] Martial arts are always more interesting boxing In my opinion.
Just acted as a bouncer at a boxing tournament. Here's hoping next year I'll be in the ring, rather than on the sidelines.
[QUOTE=Shadowwalker;38391705]Martial arts are always more interesting boxing In my opinion.[/QUOTE] it depends two skilled boxers vs each other? no contest, it's gonna be way more interesting. two faggy TKD point fighters? SHOOT ME NOW god, the mcdojo black belts are so annoying. when i was in high school there was a kid that competed in TKD point fighting and was pretty good. he talked shit to everyone, no one wanted to fight him. the kid was the most annoying useless blonde piece of shit on earth. everyone hated him. i called him out one day cause he was saying he could tornado kick any person at the school. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkdzGLWIdOA[/youtube] i told him it was to be a 1 on 1 fight, he could do whatever he wanted to me. we go in the field and we square up. he gets in his gay little TKD "i'mma put my toes on your boobies" stance. I got in a modified boxing stance, more focused for wrestling (I was a wrestler at the time). Someone says go and bam, i see him take that first revolution. I step in, drop my elbow into his knee cap as he's bringing it up (too fucking predictable), slam him with a over hand right, pick him up with a high crotch, switch the body to horizontal, turned the corner and slammed. he didn't get up for 15 minutes. please guys, don't ever think that your point fighting or half assed mcdojo skills are going to do anything against someone who trains the more practical arts (and is good at them) you want to learn how to best fuck people up? learn the styles that are prevalent in MMA, get a little bit of shotokan/kempo in ye (the strike co-ordination/explosiveness/accuracy they teach is unparalleled), lots of wrestling and muay thai, and brazilian jiu jitsu. bam, human weapon
[QUOTE=SickJits;38411171]it depends two skilled boxers vs each other? no contest, it's gonna be way more interesting. two faggy TKD point fighters? SHOOT ME NOW god, the mcdojo black belts are so annoying. when i was in high school there was a kid that competed in TKD point fighting and was pretty good. he talked shit to everyone, no one wanted to fight him. the kid was the most annoying useless blonde piece of shit on earth. everyone hated him. i called him out one day cause he was saying he could tornado kick any person at the school. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkdzGLWIdOA[/youtube] i told him it was to be a 1 on 1 fight, he could do whatever he wanted to me. we go in the field and we square up. he gets in his gay little TKD "i'mma put my toes on your boobies" stance. I got in a modified boxing stance, more focused for wrestling (I was a wrestler at the time). Someone says go and bam, i see him take that first revolution. I step in, drop my elbow into his knee cap as he's bringing it up (too fucking predictable), slam him with a over hand right, pick him up with a high crotch, switch the body to horizontal, turned the corner and slammed. he didn't get up for 15 minutes. please guys, don't ever think that your point fighting or half assed mcdojo skills are going to do anything against someone who trains the more practical arts (and is good at them) you want to learn how to best fuck people up? learn the styles that are prevalent in MMA, get a little bit of shotokan/kempo in ye (the strike co-ordination/explosiveness/accuracy they teach is unparalleled), lots of wrestling and muay thai, and brazilian jiu jitsu. bam, human weapon[/QUOTE] Typical mcdojos... Brainwashing kids into thinking they are something they aren't. Back in highschool I remember the kids that walked around like they were untouchable because they trained in the lethal art of "Tae kwon do". Don't mess with that guy! His kicks can break boards! I can understand McDojos making a killing back in the karate fad... but now and days? I don't see how they stick around. [editline]11th November 2012[/editline] On another note.... I'm transferring Universities, so I'm going to have to leave my bjj gym. And it turns out, there really isn't any legitimate schools where I'm moving. I hope I can find a BJJ or MMA club at the school to at least keep me sharp.
[QUOTE=SickJits;38411171]it depends two skilled boxers vs each other? no contest, it's gonna be way more interesting. two faggy TKD point fighters? SHOOT ME NOW god, the mcdojo black belts are so annoying. when i was in high school there was a kid that competed in TKD point fighting and was pretty good. he talked shit to everyone, no one wanted to fight him. the kid was the most annoying useless blonde piece of shit on earth. everyone hated him. i called him out one day cause he was saying he could tornado kick any person at the school. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkdzGLWIdOA[/youtube] i told him it was to be a 1 on 1 fight, he could do whatever he wanted to me. we go in the field and we square up. he gets in his gay little TKD "i'mma put my toes on your boobies" stance. I got in a modified boxing stance, more focused for wrestling (I was a wrestler at the time). Someone says go and bam, i see him take that first revolution. I step in, drop my elbow into his knee cap as he's bringing it up (too fucking predictable), slam him with a over hand right, pick him up with a high crotch, switch the body to horizontal, turned the corner and slammed. he didn't get up for 15 minutes. please guys, don't ever think that your point fighting or half assed mcdojo skills are going to do anything against someone who trains the more practical arts (and is good at them) you want to learn how to best fuck people up? learn the styles that are prevalent in MMA, get a little bit of shotokan/kempo in ye (the strike co-ordination/explosiveness/accuracy they teach is unparalleled), lots of wrestling and muay thai, and brazilian jiu jitsu. bam, human weapon[/QUOTE] No argument there, But one you the things that I love about my martial art is the history behind it, The fact that it been around for hundreds of years is just awesome, Boxing just doesn't give me that. Also on a side note getting really good at one style is a better long term idea then taking a lot of different ones, I wanted to do that for a wile but then I realized that I loved what I'm taking now.
[QUOTE=Shadowwalker;38418257]No argument there, But one you the things that I love about my martial art is the history behind it, The fact that it been around for hundreds of years is just awesome, Boxing just doesn't give me that. Also on a side note getting really good at one style is a better long term idea then taking a lot of different ones, I wanted to do that for a wile but then I realized that I loved what I'm taking now.[/QUOTE] I don't know why you keep referring to boxing as distinct from martial arts. Boxing IS a martial art. And it does have a history, a very rich and well documented one. A lot of east asian martial arts histories are blurred and marred by hyperbole and exaggeration of reality.
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;38418818]I don't know why you keep referring to boxing as distinct from martial arts. Boxing IS a martial art. And it does have a history, a very rich and well documented one. A lot of east asian martial arts histories are blurred and marred by hyperbole and exaggeration of reality.[/QUOTE] I don't know why, I just always thought of it more as a sport then a martial art, When I think of a martial art I think of something like kempo. And on the history thing, to me boxing's history is boring, but that's just me.
do u know any dim maks?
I used to do Northern Shaolin Longfist, but if I had known there was a boxing gym around the corner at the time I'd have dropped that shit instantly. I'm not saying Boxing is superior to any martial art, because it doesn't matter, we all do what we love. But boxing gives me the feeling of actual progression that Longfist didn't. Sure I could learn all the fancy moves in the world and learn how to rip a guy's testicles off, but I never fully felt like I was progressing in that school. Although that may just be at fault with my old longfist instructor. These are some of his students. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_X5eey9lgg&feature=plcp[/media] These girls had been students for around 3 years when that video was filmed, and it looks like the same stuff they were doing when the dojo first opened.
[QUOTE=Hoboiam;38424550]I used to do Northern Shaolin Longfist, but if I had known there was a boxing gym around the corner at the time I'd have dropped that shit instantly. I'm not saying Boxing is superior to any martial art, because it doesn't matter, we all do what we love. But boxing gives me the feeling of actual progression that Longfist didn't. Sure I could learn all the fancy moves in the world and learn how to rip a guy's testicles off, but I never fully felt like I was progressing in that school. Although that may just be at fault with my old longfist instructor. These are some of his students. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_X5eey9lgg&feature=plcp[/media] These girls had been students for around 3 years when that video was filmed, and it looks like the same stuff they were doing when the dojo first opened.[/QUOTE] I know that feeling, I took fencing for a time when I was younger but they just taught you one thing and just made you do it over and over again, Not saying repetition isn't part learning something physical but ws just reschedules how much they made you do it. Also Longfist is the name of a technique in my school.
Sparring kinda sucked for me at the MMA gym....as usual. I feel so damn slow and lacking of power. Doesn't really feel any different than when I started back up in like May or June. My striking skills feel so shitty. 3.5 years of Karate feels like next to nothing. Not that I expect to be some sort of Lyoto Machida, but shit... I'm 90% sure if I showed you guys me sparring you'd laugh your asses off. Also, the head trainer presented me with a contract. He gave ones to the other guys in tonight as well. Thing is, I don't have an income right now. It puts a lot of pressure on me, from making sure I can keep up with costs for the few things I spend money on, to not being sure if I should just go with it, or take time off once again and look for a job before signing any dotted line. I don't think it will have any bad terms or anything. He basically said he just wants to make monthly payments easier by being able to just take dues from our bank accounts as appose to dealing with cash. But it still kind of leaves me feeling a bit uneasy. If only I got in to all this shiz when my life was actually sorted out. I have so many questions to still answer about what I'm to do with my life, and the only thing I really know if training martial arts. I haven't had one Amateur fight yet. I'm still so far away from from being able to make money from any of this. The other big thing is that MMA training starts around 5/5:30PM, and I need to allow 30mins minimum to get there. It's hard to find jobs that start early enough and are willing to let me off at like 3 or 4.
I regret signing a contract for my current gym. about to have to pay 200 dollars cancellation because I'm moving. Yeah, never again am I dealing with that shit. Good riddance.
My dojo never does contracts, Hell if you don't have the money He'll just let you pay what you have, whether you have 100 dollars or 10 dollars He'll still train you. [editline]15th November 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=NO ONE;38468311]Sparring kinda sucked for me at the MMA gym....as usual. I feel so damn slow and lacking of power. Doesn't really feel any different than when I started back up in like May or June. My striking skills feel so shitty. 3.5 years of Karate feels like next to nothing. Not that I expect to be some sort of Lyoto Machida, but shit... I'm 90% sure if I showed you guys me sparring you'd laugh your asses off. Also, the head trainer presented me with a contract. He gave ones to the other guys in tonight as well. Thing is, I don't have an income right now. It puts a lot of pressure on me, from making sure I can keep up with costs for the few things I spend money on, to not being sure if I should just go with it, or take time off once again and look for a job before signing any dotted line. I don't think it will have any bad terms or anything. He basically said he just wants to make monthly payments easier by being able to just take dues from our bank accounts as appose to dealing with cash. But it still kind of leaves me feeling a bit uneasy. If only I got in to all this shiz when my life was actually sorted out. I have so many questions to still answer about what I'm to do with my life, and the only thing I really know if training martial arts. I haven't had one Amateur fight yet. I'm still so far away from from being able to make money from any of this. The other big thing is that MMA training starts around 5/5:30PM, and I need to allow 30mins minimum to get there. It's hard to find jobs that start early enough and are willing to let me off at like 3 or 4.[/QUOTE] I haven't spared in almost two months, At this point I would prefer a shity sparing match to none at all.
Well the gym I'm going to is doing some expansion. We're gonna have a lot more mat room, and a cage. There's also talk of a Muay Thai instructor and some strength and conditioning stuff. I was getting away with paying $60 a month for a while, and then I think it was last month that he require $75 because of the expansion. This month he said he would actually do $50, but still, if he makes cancellation fess, or makes no room to freeze payment, I don't know what I'd do. He gave me this very generic, basic looking contract. It doesn't even really have terms. Like I said in my previous post, I think all he wants to do is organize dues. I think he is reasonable enough to deal with whatever situations I get in to, but it could still end up that he might want to add some terms or something. I'm getting so worked up about my fucking life right now....it's dumb. I know it's really not the worse situation, and maybe I can find a job with workable hours really soon. I think it's just that I don't really live a predictable life. From time to time, I get overwhelmed by that fact.
You guys are all so lucky and shit, I have no car and the only martial art place I have is a boxing gym that closed recently and a female-only gym in a 50 miles radius.
[QUOTE=Heigou;38470428]You guys are all so lucky and shit, I have no car and the only martial art place I have is a boxing gym that closed recently and a female-only gym in a 50 miles radius.[/QUOTE] get a punching bag, some gloves, a friend, and watch boxing videos on youtube. it's better then nothing. also muay thai clinch videos, it's kind of hard to fuck up clinch techniques, very simple. such as - when engaged in the clinch, tuck your chin under your shoulders. keep shoulders relaxed and low, elbows glued to your ribs. when throwing a knee, make sure to thrust it up and forwards (not just straight up), you also need to curl your foot so your toes point towards the floor as you throw the knee (so you don't accidentally clip the nuts and get a point deducted). Push the knee out with your core, your back should be curving at the top away from the knee (as if you're leaning back). i guarantee you land one clean knee that is trained like that and you're opponent isn't getting up for a few mins
[QUOTE=SickJits;38490405]get a punching bag, some gloves, a friend, and watch boxing videos on youtube. it's better then nothing. also muay thai clinch videos, it's kind of hard to fuck up clinch techniques, very simple. such as - when engaged in the clinch, tuck your chin under your shoulders. keep shoulders relaxed and low, elbows glued to your ribs. when throwing a knee, make sure to thrust it up and forwards (not just straight up), you also need to curl your foot so your toes point towards the floor as you throw the knee (so you don't accidentally clip the nuts and get a point deducted). Push the knee out with your core, your back should be curving at the top away from the knee (as if you're leaning back). i guarantee you land one clean knee that is trained like that and you're opponent isn't getting up for a few mins[/QUOTE] Oh don't worry, I atleast have a punching bag at home and a bunch of dumb bells, I'm not stopping boxing, I just can't spar anymore.
Today I visited a Muai Thay MacDojo. Damn, that shit was so full of steroid maniacs with a bad case of roid rage just pounding and kicking the hell out of punching bags. They looked like Brucie Kibbutz's clones.
Holy fuck, The next test is the 15th and I think I'm going to be in it, There are two scary things, One is the fact that it will probably be around 4 hours. The other thing is that my mom is going to be in it as well.
Pacquiao just got knocked the fuck out. Did not expect that.
Sigh.... So jealous of people who have a nice BJJ gym to go to. Had nothing but problems with mine... Was always dirty and I don't even know if people cleaned the mats. No one was friendly. The owner/lead instructor never even shows up, and usually has some random blue belt or something lead the lesson in his place. There is a 20% chance that no one, including the instructor will show up. Poor instruction in general. On top of all of that, I was on a 150$ a month contract. Now that I'm leaving my city I need to cancel my contract. I've been trying to contact the owner for 2 weeks by phone/office and he won't pick up. My bank keep getting charged by his shitty gym, so now I have to file a claim. Basically I ended up spending 700+ dollars at this place with nothing to show for it. The only time I learned anything was when i watched Youtube, then used what I learned on open mat. And even more worse is the place I'm moving to has no legitimate BJJ gyms.
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