Who is showing attitude that has only done it for a year? Did I ever say that I show attitude when I fight? My instructor showed attitude and mocked the other guy when he fought, but my instructor has been doing MMA for years. He's a damn black belt in BJJ and Judo, with a brown belt in some form of karate that I don't know how the fuck to spell the name of.
Guys that go to one class and act like they're the shit are retarded, not going to deny that. I'm not defending those guys though, I'm defending the general idea that MMA isn't about bullshit like honor and whatnot.
It's genuine because those guys don't just start being a certain way once they go pro out of nowhere. When interviewed, Josh Koscheck's old wrestling coach/team members said he was a massive dick back then too. A lot of rivalries in the UFC originated from Pride, so saying they are all orchestrated by Dana White is just outright stupid.
[QUOTE=MaverickIB;28452550]Who is showing attitude that has only done it for a year? Did I ever say that I show attitude when I fight? My instructor showed attitude and mocked the other guy when he fought, but my instructor has been doing MMA for years. He's a damn black belt in BJJ and Judo, with a brown belt in some form of karate that I don't know how the fuck to spell the name of.
Guys that go to one class and act like they're the shit are retarded, not going to deny that. I'm not defending those guys though, I'm defending the general idea that MMA isn't about bullshit like honor and whatnot.
It's genuine because those guys don't just start being a certain way once they go pro out of nowhere. When interviewed, Josh Koscheck's old wrestling coach/team members said he was a massive dick back then too. A lot of rivalries in the UFC originated from Pride, so saying they are all orchestrated by Dana White is just outright stupid.[/QUOTE]
~tapout~
[QUOTE=iosekki;28440858]Here's a video of me doing a sloppy run through of Tai Chi Chuan Yang style so I could show you guys what I do everyday anywhere between 6:00AM and 10:00AM. It's a soft form so it looks like a dance but it does wonders for your health, I do Krav Maga as a hard form and take each movement in Tai Chi Chuan Yang style and incorporate it into my Krav Maga.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi_3yh466cY[/media][/QUOTE]
Mate, how long have you been practicing Tai Chi ? As what do you consider it ?
Doesn't happen too often that I meet someone who practices it on the Internet :D
[QUOTE=WuWei;28460672]Mate, how long have you been practicing Tai Chi ? As what do you consider it ?
Doesn't happen too often that I meet someone who practices it on the Internet :D[/QUOTE]
Is Tai Chi not technically meditation?
[QUOTE=WuWei;28460672]Mate, how long have you been practicing Tai Chi ? As what do you consider it ?
Doesn't happen too often that I meet someone who practices it on the Internet :D[/QUOTE]
About a year now, I consider it fighting and health. Tai chi chuan to me is "grand ultimate fist". Are you a practitioner aswell? :)
[QUOTE=Ryz0;28478347]Is Tai Chi not technically meditation?[/QUOTE]
It was originally a martial art. A soft style, more about energy than brute strength. Great martial art, if you find a good sifu (teacher) you're set.
It's fantastic for meditation though, that's why alot of practitioners around the world only know the holistic side - you'll see experienced taiji teachers but they'll only ever know each form, no combat applications or martial aspect of it.
I don't practise taiji, one of my teachers previous did (chen style). At the moment, I practise Wing Chun Kung Fu (martial) and Qigong (purely holistic, meditative). I studied TKD for 2 years a few years back and Shaolin Changquan (Longfist) for a few months about 2 years ago.
Tai Chi is not just meditation, trust me. Taught and done properly you can defend yourself pretty well.
And yup, I am a practitioner and am mostly interested in the fighting side of it- even though you notice your health and strength increasing :D
But for fighting you need a buttload of patience :P
[QUOTE=WuWei;28490973]Tai Chi is not just meditation, trust me. Taught and done properly you can defend yourself pretty well.
And yup, I am a practitioner and am mostly interested in the fighting side of it- even though you notice your health and strength increasing :D
But for fighting you need a buttload of patience :P[/QUOTE]
I dunno if you were replying to me or it was a general message but I'm aware it's a martial art and not just meditation:) I've seen it in practise, it's great stuff!
If you want pure meditation, start Qigong :)
I've only recently ( 5 weeks roughly) started Boxing and MMA basics....
i tell you something the fitness involved in both (but boxing mainly) is so intense! one of the rare times when i get home dripping head to toe in sweat and literally wake up the next day in whole body pain!
Boxing is serious cardio.
Thai boxing doesn't seem as cardio intensive to me, maybe because it's at a slower pace since people are wary of kicks. That being said, I sparred a few rounds after a greco roman wrestling workout last night and my body feels like it's about to fall apart.
My foot hurts the worst, I threw a hard leg kick at a guy and he didn't back up far enough to get out of range, ended up landing it with my foot. Didn't hurt until I woke up this morning feeling like someone smashed it with hammer.
Thai Boxing is pretty cardio intensive, for real. Once you catch some elbows and knees you really do not want to go on :3 (also low kicks on the same spot... over and over again D: )
That's more related to general pain than it is cardio.
Your cardio really has nothing to do with how many low kicks you can take. Boxing doesn't hurt as much in general (of course, impacts build up over the course of 12 rounds so you're hurting like hell by the end of it) but is much more demanding in terms of cardio. MMA fighters and Thai boxers don't throw hundreds of strikes every fight. Sure, some guys throw a lot, but boxing is virtually non-stop striking.
Depends on what you do, our bag trainings are very cardio intensive, all the time you'll be bathing in sweat and panting your ass off.
One day we go full focus on boxing, the other day full focus on kicks or a combination of both.
Having done both extensively, I can definitely agree the pace in MT is nowhere near as intense as boxing.
Mostly because of the difference in fighting or rather competition style. Muay Thai under full thai rules is very slow paced with brief bouts of action. Punches score next to nothing in FTR so a lot of fighters won't push the pace with boxing combinations, instead opting to play a tactical battle with kicks and elbows, using the clinch when they get into danger.
Boxing on the other hand, in the amateurs, you only usually have 3 rounds to make your mark in points, or KTFO the other guy, so the pace is furious.
BJJ/wrestling with striking allowed is ridiculously intensive as well. In standard BJJ when just rolling and stuff, you can be patient and wait for openings and whatnot. Add ground and pound into the mix and it becomes an entirely different game. We'll have days where we just roll with ground and pound allowed and not only will it be ridiculously exhausting, but getting out of bed the next day is super difficult as well.
[QUOTE=MaverickIB;28497927]BJJ/wrestling with striking allowed is ridiculously intensive as well. In standard BJJ when just rolling and stuff, you can be patient and wait for openings and whatnot. Add ground and pound into the mix and it becomes an entirely different game. We'll have days where we just roll with ground and pound allowed and not only will it be ridiculously exhausting, but getting out of bed the next day is super difficult as well.[/QUOTE]
Oh fuck yeah dude, it always annoyed me at BJJ classes where dudes who had been doing it for a few months and were fairly competent started getting smug about their ability to defend themself. Trying to explain that game completely changes when striking is allowed (let alone biting, gouging and the other guys friends soccer kicking your head on the ground) was like talking to a brick wall.
I haven't ran into any problems with dudes like that, moreso guys that are completely oblivious to it. For example, a guy my roommate knows participates in amateur fights and the guy is excellent at standalone BJJ but has lost to a rear naked choke three times in a row. My roommate goes off about how the dude is badass at jits and he doesn't understand how his friend keeps losing, when it's pretty clear the kid has yet to understand jits with striking is way different than jits without it. Some people just outright lose their ability to think and react when they're getting punched in the face.
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;28499826]Oh fuck yeah dude, it always annoyed me at BJJ classes where dudes who had been doing it for a few months and were fairly competent started getting smug about their ability to defend themself. Trying to explain that game completely changes when striking is allowed (let alone biting, gouging and the other guys friends soccer kicking your head on the ground) was like talking to a brick wall.[/QUOTE]
Too true
Just an update and a bump I guess.
I left Kuk Sool Won as progress was way too slow, every class started to feel the same. And I wasn't digging all the traditional forms and techniques I was more about the sparring. It's always been my strong point. Every tournament I was getting gold haha.
Looking for a new one now I guess, any suggestions?
Doing an inhouse MMA tournament with my club tomorrow. Any tips? I don't know enough standup technique to be confident in that aspect, I'm decent in bjj and taketowns, however I don't know how I'll fair with striking involved.
i've always rathered fighting on my feet than on the ground.
the only tip i can think of is to use your elbows if your in the less dominant position on the ground haha
[QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;33218952]Doing an inhouse MMA tournament with my club tomorrow. Any tips? I don't know enough standup technique to be confident in that aspect, I'm decent in bjj and taketowns, however I don't know how I'll fair with striking involved.[/QUOTE]
Don't keep it standing then. One thing that effectively nullifies a good striker is clinching, or to be more specific, tieing up. You see this all the time in heavyweight boxing, or even K1; fighters get into dangerous spots where they feel like someone is about to open up a sharp combination on them, so they tie the opponent up so the referee can reset them. Sometimes this is accidental, but more often than not it's purely intentional.
By tieing up, I mean literally hugging or getting underhooks/overhooks. The Thai clinch isn't as effective in this aspect, as a more experienced striker may have a superior clinch to you, and pummel you into HIS clinch. The alternative obviously is to time their flurries with takedowns. You keep a tight guard, let them get confident with a few jabs, then when they step in to a combination, you shoot and take them down.
I doubt you're facing anyone who can legit call themselves a proficient striker, so chances are they will have terrible balance/over reach a lot and be ripe for takedowns. At low levels of MMA, ground guys almost always have an advantage.
Also, try to fake a takedown. Alot of strikers will sprawl if they haven't had much experience with ground work.
[editline]11th November 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Ryz0;33216770]Just an update and a bump I guess.
I left Kuk Sool Won as progress was way too slow, every class started to feel the same. And I wasn't digging all the traditional forms and techniques I was more about the sparring. It's always been my strong point. Every tournament I was getting gold haha.
Looking for a new one now I guess, any suggestions?[/QUOTE]
New martial art? Muay thai, boxing, grappling, and MMA are effective combat sports but it really depends on the gym. You just have to watch out for McDojos and false martial arts that are really just dances. Plus one style may suit you better. You could do really bad in Wrestling but do pretty well in striking martial arts like me. A general rule for a good martial art place is whether they hold FULL-CONTACT sparring(not that "Oh you'll hit me at slow speed and I'll block it). After a good sparring season, you should be extremely tired.
[QUOTE=BLOB Fish Dude;33240343]Also, try to fake a takedown. Alot of strikers will sprawl if they haven't had much experience with ground work.
[editline]11th November 2011[/editline]
New martial art? Muay thai, boxing, grappling, and MMA are effective combat sports but it really depends on the gym. You just have to watch out for McDojos and false martial arts that are really just dances. Plus one style may suit you better. You could do really bad in Wrestling but do pretty well in striking martial arts like me. A general rule for a good martial art place is whether they hold FULL-CONTACT sparring(not that "Oh you'll hit me at slow speed and I'll block it). After a good sparring season, you should be extremely tired.[/QUOTE]
ive always been interested in Muay thai and mma. i think there's an mma gym not too far from here might check it out. I used to do some wrestling but it really wasnt for me so i left.
Been doing mma for just over 2 months now, really enjoying it.
Doing a kickboxing competition for the first time this sunday really looking forward to it aswell.
Slow speed training is to get the technique in, not to train applications or "realistic fighting", like some believe.
What would one suggest to someone unfamiliar with MA if he has in mind to start doing it?
What kind of stability work, footwork, hand?
[QUOTE=Seith;33274029]What would one suggest to someone unfamiliar with MA if he has in mind to start doing it?
What kind of stability work, footwork, hand?[/QUOTE]
not sure what you mean, are you wanting us to reccomend you a martial art?
I presume there are basics you go through in each and every MA. What would those basics be?
What kind of... stability, foot, hand, face, dick movements would a MA trainer recommend a complete newbie to do ?
[QUOTE=Seith;33274029]What would one suggest to someone unfamiliar with MA if he has in mind to start doing it?
What kind of stability work, footwork, hand?[/QUOTE]
My limited knowledge on the subject matter suggests cardio is the best work to prepare for any type of competitive MA. Footwork etc I believe comes with training technique. But seriously, if you're going to have a problem with anything starting out, it would be cardio. The longer you can last in a fight all the more advantage you have over your opponents.
Also practice makes permanent, not perfect. Don't buy a bag or dummy and start throwing punches and kicks when you don't know the core foundations of what you're doing. Because you will only create bad habits. I suggest a BJJ or MT gym, and I would probably avoid krav maga gyms seeing where you live.
Hope that helps a bit.
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