TB fanboys hard over a game - General

[QUOTE=SweFox*;42132339]Yes.[/QUOTE]It certaintly looks like a decent game and all, but out of all the games that you have played this year, and the years prior, you honestly think this is the best game that you've ever played? And nothing else comes close?

[QUOTE=Skyward;42132309]The only people that whine about him are people who can't stand the fact that he won't bend over and suck off his fans at the drop of a hat. He's damn good at what he does but people can't stand the fact that he doesn't [I]treat us leik the speshul snowflaeks we r :'c[/I][/QUOTE] huh? personally I dont like him because i dont think he is in any way interesting

[QUOTE=Killer900;42132373]It certaintly looks like a decent game and all, but out of all the games that you have played this year, and the years prior, you honestly think this is the best game that you've ever played? And nothing else comes close?[/QUOTE] Uh, considering he said yes, I'd wager he does.

[QUOTE=Skyward;42132359]Guys, why does it matter? Seriously? He loved the game. Why do you people insist on hounding him over it?[/QUOTE] What good are opinions if we can't discuss them? I'm genuinely curious as well. I didn't like the game all that much, other than a few select parts that were fantastic, and want to know why he thinks differently. I believe I've already explained my main problems with it.

[QUOTE=Vedicardi;42132376]huh? personally I dont like him because i dont think he is in any way interesting[/QUOTE] Okay then. So why come here to just say that?

[QUOTE=Skyward;42132379]Uh, considering he said yes, I'd wager he does.[/QUOTE]I wanted him to elaborate more on why. Not like it will make a difference but I just want to hear his thoughts about it compared to other games.

[QUOTE=Skyward;42132337]Why do people post Ashens' videos? Why do we have a Two Best Friends Thread? Why does Dunkey ever get posted here? or Retsupurae? Or Game Grumps? Brutal Moose, Spike and Barely, Dopefish, Yogscast? Why not just subscribe? Why have a videos forum when people can just use youtube?[/QUOTE] they dont post every video, they post the rare ones that could reach a broader audience, and if a channel has a thread, the videos dont get posted outside of it. go make a TB thread, then.

I think the problem with some people and TB is that people expect him to be professional, while he's just saying his own honest opinion on a game. I think people think he's objective and all that, while he just says what he thinks based on his own tastes.

[QUOTE=Skyward;42132381]Okay then. So why come here to just say that?[/QUOTE] i didnt i came here to ask why people make new threads for his videos when no one really seems to enjoy them other than die hard fans lol

[QUOTE=icemaz;42132350]It's good, and probably indie game of the year. But best game of all time seriously? You've never played a better game than this? Can you tell me why it's the best of all time to you?[/QUOTE] I have never found a game that is so incredibly amazing. The artstyle, the sounds, how they speak, how you can interact with literally anything and the fact that the big brother is more polite and the little brother is more rude. The first hour of the game I was blown away and couldn't really understand how great the game is. No I have not found a single game that gave me the same feeling as this. The latest two games I completed were Bioshock Inf and Tomb Raider and then Far Cry 3 before that. Yes they were good games but they were repetitive like any shooter. This game is something else.

[QUOTE=Vedicardi;42132389]they dont post every video, they post the rare ones that could reach a broader audience, and if a channel has a thread, the videos dont get posted outside of it. go make a TB thread, then.[/QUOTE] We did have one a while back, but people came in an did nothing but shit on it because "I DON LEIK TB SO THIS THRED IS BAD" and it got shitposted into obscurity because people didn't like the fact that TB doesn't coddle his fans so he's apparently he's comparable to the devil. If we made another it'd happen again. So now we post threads on his more interesting videos to try and get responses from people who don't know his stuff to much and start discussing about the subject with people who do. When people like you show up and are all "WHY POST THIS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK TB'S INTERESTING" it drags the thread down. Just leave it be. Its not like it affects you.

[QUOTE=Skyward;42132425]We did have one a while back, but people came in an did nothing but shit on it because "I DON LEIK TB SO THIS THRED IS BAD" and it got shitposted into obscurity because people didn't like the fact that TB doesn't coddle his fans so he's apparentl yhe devil. If we made another it'd happen again. So now we post threads on his more interesting videos to try and get responses from people who don't know his stuff to much and start discussing about the subject with people who do. When people like you show up and are all "WHY POST THIS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK TB'S INTERESTING" it drags the thread down. Just leave it be. Its not like it affects you.[/QUOTE] doesnt seem like youre winning anyone over lol

[QUOTE=Vedicardi;42132446]doesnt seem like youre winning anyone over lol[/QUOTE]I don't think it really matters honestly.

[QUOTE=Vedicardi;42132446]doesnt seem like youre winning anyone over lol[/QUOTE] What? I'm not trying to win anyone over. I'm just saying TB gets threads because people like his stuff and people like you come in and shit it up because you have a differing a opinion[I] and that's not okay[/I].

whats the diff between getting shit on in multiple threads and getting shit on in one singular thread?

[QUOTE=Vedicardi;42132484]whats the diff between getting shit on in multiple threads and getting shit on in one singular thread?[/QUOTE] Why do you shit on a thread in the first place? A single thread can get shit on to the point where there's no reason to use it. Multiple threads breaks up the shit into more manageable amounts. Why should we stop sharing TB's content with people that like him because people like you don't?

[QUOTE=Vedicardi;42132484]whats the diff between getting shit on in multiple threads and getting shit on in one singular thread?[/QUOTE]Why do you feel the need to shit on it if you don't care. [QUOTE=Vedicardi;42131989]why do people even post videos by this guy here anymore? this game looks great but [B]why should I care what this guy has to say lol[/B][/QUOTE]I'm not a big fan of TB either but honestly if you don't care then maybe you shouldn't click on the thread. Just looking at your ban history though it's pretty obvious why you're doing it. Trolling, why reply's, flaming, you were even permabanned for doing these things yet you still continue to do it, you aren't that bright are you.

[QUOTE=Skyward;42132496]Why do you shit on a thread in the first place? A single thread can get shit on to the point where there's no reason to use it. Multiple threads breaks up the shit into more manageable amounts. Why should we stop sharing TB's content with people that like him because people like don't?[/QUOTE] im not shitting anywhere i just dont get it lol

[QUOTE=Vedicardi;42132514]im not shitting anywhere i just dont get it lol[/QUOTE] You've effectively derailed a thread about a TB video into a discussion as to why people post content they like on this forum. IE: Threadshitting.

What's this annoying habit of FP users calling something they don't like or understand a "gimmick." How the hell is the control method a gimmick? I don't think you actually understand what that word means. If it was used as some sort of annoying form of control for a few puzzles, and was that token kind of tedious part of a game that you dread getting to whenever you replay it, that's a gimmick. When the entire game is designed around the mechanic it isn't a gimmick. When the system permeates every puzzle and the whole of the gameplay that's called a mechanic, not a gimmick. You don't call the portals in Portal a gimmick, or the gravity gun in Half-Life 2 a gimmick, do you.

[QUOTE=Vedicardi;42132514]im not shitting anywhere i just dont get it lol[/QUOTE] pls go

[QUOTE=Atlascore;42132543]Why did you even bother responding to him in the first place? You only helped him ruin the thread by doing so.[/QUOTE] Good point. To be fair I tried to answer his question. But I should have stopped when his argument eventually became "I DON GET U LEL"

[QUOTE=Sift;42131909]I hate what gaming has become. It's a silly statement I'm aware but the game is 2 hours, controlled through a gimmick, has some of the most bare puzzles I've ever seen in a game and just. Ugh. It's okay to like it but I wish there was another term because when I think of games I think of stuff like Metal Gear Rising or Mario or something. These stories can be engrossing but calling it GOTY when there's little game in it annoys me. Same reason why The Walking Dead bothered me. Fantastic story and I loved the characters but there wasn't much actual game there.[/QUOTE] um yeah thats because those games are obviously focused around you know the story and you can still get thousands of games that aren't you're acting like all games are 100% about the story. Without the story complimenting game play to some degree making interesting goals would be boring as fuck and it would make it much less interesting. Most stories in games are completely secondary, and the gameplay comes first, but both really 'stick' together to make said game, giving you a better feeling and immersion into the game play, perhaps giving you the push to play more, etc. Many games can do 1 or the other really well, in the end, if you play a game with no story for the plot, or a game thats all about story for the game, you'll get bored as fuck. [editline]9th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Sift;42132164]It's not grown up at all though? Because a game presents itself as a mature adventure with adult themes doesn't mean the industry has evolved. Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons has a nice plot, but it's cramped into 2 hours of puzzles where the setpieces come by fast and furious where only a single character is really expanded on. When replaying it I'm sure you can cruise through the game even faster which is not a good thing. Silent Hill 2 on the other hand had a mature story to it, had different riddle levels for players to figure out and got by without the use of sad children. It had enemies in it and a upsetting plot and it found a way to balance the two in a satisfying manner. This was a good game. Indie games these days forgo the gameplay part in favor of nothing but the story. Yeah there are level pulling puzzles or whatever but there's no option to change it up. The gameplay itself is stagnate. You can write the most interesting story in the world filled with the best set pieces anyone's ever seen but when the gameplay is boring it goes against it all. It's about finding the perfect medium, and it can go both ways. Bioshock Infinite for example has a nice story (although filled with plot holes) but chose to deliver it as a FPS. They didn't think this through so you're character is presented as sympathetic for most of the game, despite the fact he'll gore a bystander and hold his bleeding husk over his head. That could ruin the characterization in a instant and is a example of the scale being too far on the gameplay side of things. The industry is maturing and just because it can tell a nice story doesn't mean it's evolved[/QUOTE] Silent hill 2 had horrible acting, a terrible story, and stupid puzzles in my opinion and no indie games aren't 100% always about the story, have you even PLAYED ANY indie games lately? Limbo, Outlast, Stealth Bastard, Waking Mars, Don't Starve, rochard and a shitload of others... some don't even have a 'story' being told, its just gameplay. Story is a side of the gameplay.

[QUOTE=J!NX;42132553] Limbo, Outlast, Stealth Bastard, Waking Mars, Don't Starve, rochard and a shitload of others... some don't even have a 'story' being told, its just gameplay. Story is a side of the gameplay.[/QUOTE] Not to mention Risk of Rain, that game's pretty much 100% gameplay and its a blast. Point is he's making stupidly inaccurate sweeping generalizations.

[QUOTE=Skyward;42132530]You've effectively derailed a thread about a TB video into a discussion as to why people post content they like on this forum. IE: Threadshitting.[/QUOTE] it's still about TB, specifically. I don't see how "calling me out on threadshitting" is contributing to the discussion [editline]9th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Skyward;42132552]Good point. To be fair I tried to answer his question. But I should have stopped when it eventually became "I DON GET U LEL"[/QUOTE] v funny when thats what i was saying from the beginning

[QUOTE=Vedicardi;42132581]it's still about TB, specifically. I don't see how "calling me out on threadshitting" is contributing to the discussion[/QUOTE] Because we like his videos, fuck, why can't you get that?

[QUOTE=ionuttzu;42132539]pls go[/QUOTE] funny interenet joke [editline]9th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Skyward;42132590]Because why like his videos, fuck, why can't you get that?[/QUOTE] what?

[QUOTE=Vedicardi;42132592]funny interenet joke [editline]9th September 2013[/editline] what?[/QUOTE] go Seriously leave

[QUOTE=Skyward;42132578]Not to mention Risk of Rain, that game's pretty much 100% gameplay and its a blast. Point is he's making stupidly inaccurate sweeping generalizations.[/QUOTE] I also pointed out benefits of story in game in another thread [QUOTE]I thought Night Sky, Stealth Bastard, Hard Reset, Garrys mod, UT99, Serious Sam, TF2, and a bunch of other games that don't focus a lot of the game on story are amazing games. Some even have nearly NO story Mars: War logs is a game about story, and suffers because of a poor one (and poor... everything but thats not the point). Then Bioshock Series, is very fun ( I didn't say the game was boring, I said no matter how "Boring" the game is, in, the sense that, even if you find it boring, the games story is still well above average), and the story would ruin the game a very large amount of the storyline was poor. Story is very important in many many games. Without a good story, these games will turn very terrible and much more bland. Why? Because theres no longer a PUSH onto the next "Mission", there's no logic behind the next scene and all that other shit. Some games can allow this, but Fallout and Bioshock and Far Cry 3 and GTA series simply NEED a good story otherwise it'll VERY MUCH kill a lot of the fun. Story, Audio, Visuals, are all just as important as gameplay in some cases, however this varies on a lot of things. And, a LOT of things, is meant when it's said. Most games need good audio, visuals and Story to go along WITH the gameplay. This is why Gnomeria can fail for example, its pretty much all gameplay. Most of the time gameplay is most important, obviously, but gameplay and all 3 of the other 'element's REALLY go hand in hand. just like spies masks when he's disguised and on your team, thats a visual mechanic to tell you something. As well as Good soundtrack to keep flow, dialog, etc. Without music, somegames can even become very boring, and horror games ESPECIALLY VERY MUCH NEED non music audio such as screams and such that are good, in fact, that is literally a part of the gameplay itself.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Vedicardi;42132581]it's still about TB, specifically. I don't see how "calling me out on threadshitting" is contributing to the discussion [editline]9th September 2013[/editline] v funny when thats what i was saying from the beginning[/QUOTE] please stop posting you are saying "You guys need to contribute" and then you post this shit what the hell is wrong with you? are you dumb?

[QUOTE=Vedicardi;42132272]well, the overwhelming majority of TB threads seem to be people complaining about him thats all im sayin[/QUOTE] People complain about Arin (GG) all the time yet we still love him. Don't we, guys?