[QUOTE=OnDemand;25461216]I wonder what would happen if you appeared into a maze with mirrors instead of walls..[/QUOTE]
Solid_jake did once, but he got through ok
I had a huge dream last night, but the whole way through "Part Two", this really unpleasant man kept appearing. In the beginning of my second dream, he made it so that I was tied to someone else and on a train track, like one of those old silent movies. I escaped him easily, though, and went on with my dream. It progressed away from my starting location but, as my dream was ending, I was back on the beach where I'd first met him. He was fishing and ignoring me, but I knew the dream was ending and was already trying to remember by other dreams from that night. As I remembered "Part One" he turned to me and said unpleasantly "Oh, you don't want to remember that, that was from ANOTHER night", but I knew he was lying. My view panned out to the whole of the beach, the crashed train and bright sea and said again, "Look. Didn't you have all you wanted right here?"
If this is my sub, it definitely isn't the companionable, comforting thing I've known in my other dreams :| Any idea who he might be/represent?
So, masters of sleep and the land of dreams, I pose a question.
Sometimes, when I get really tired I start to nod off, my head will droop down and it's incredibly hard to keep my eyes open. Usually, this will happen when, like I said, I get tired. However, it happens in a lot of different places and with a different location I usually get a different result. Example: Late at night sitting at my desk reading FP. Actually it was last night, around 3:00 AM. I was starting to nod off and on and eventually stopped fighting it, so I fell asleep sitting up in my chair. The moment I fell asleep I started dreaming. It feels like there is no transition through the REM cycle, just bam straight into a dream. The funny thing is, I'll realize that it is a dream while I'm dreaming and just go along with whatever happens. I can't control it, and I can't really do much in it. But it's weird because my Girlfriend started laughing and asked if I was asleep, and I immediately wake up, and anywhere from 1 to 5 minutes have passed. When I do wake up, I entirely loose the tired feeling.
Another example is in my Calculus II lab. It usually runs from 2:30 to 4:30 PM. Usually at the midpoint I start to fall asleep in my chair the exact same way I do when I as at home reading FP. However, when I do fall asleep and start dreaming, the dreams are much shorter, because I realize it's a dream and I realize that I had fallen asleep and I snap awake. Not to mention that I fell asleep in class. It feels like these dreams go from about 20 seconds to maybe a minute. When I do break out of it, I'm instantly awake and similar to the last example wide awake for the rest of the class.
The third example is a bit different. Sometimes when I'm laying on my bed with my girlfriend watching TV this happens. I'll quickly fall asleep and she doesn't notice because of how quick it is. And the odd thing about this example is that she could say one word, say anything, and I'll pop awake and say something. It doesn't even have to fit the conversation, but the verbal stimulation wakes me up. Now if she pokes me, or hits me, I don't wake up as easily.
So I come to you, meisters of sleep, hoping for an answer of what exactly is happening and if I can control it.
The dreams can really be about anything, but something I find odd is that I can never remember them past a certain time. And sometimes, environmental things around me effect the dreams, like my teachers lectures. I can hear his voice sometimes in the dreams. Other times, when I become aware that I'm dreaming it feels like a movie, and I'm just sitting in the audience watching my subconscious go on some wild adventure.
Ok, Tonight i am gonna try to dream a specific scenario
How could i got about doing so?
I only remember my dreams every other day.
God last night's one is just a mess. I can't establish any single event. I remember things but it all feels so fast that I can't sort it out.
...and today Im still cleaning up messes from yesterday. figuratively and literally.
I also had a dream about being in JDC again.
And a tower made of sticks. I climbed it, and someone at the bottom lit it on fire. I jumped.
EDIT
Robin Williams was also there.
That story was amazing.
He got like 10 dreams deep
Im making a new blinker for my car out of duct tape. CREATIVITY YAY.
[editline]17th October 2010[/editline]
Im still pissed at that HOMOSEXUAL CEMENT POLE IN MY WAY
[img_thumb]http://i52.tinypic.com/ouphrc.png[/img_thumb]
Help anyone ? Draw this after I saw a dream about my sub torturing the love of my life using cigarettes and then killing her. Couldn't get any dreams after that and I couldn't realise I was dreaming.
What?
What really helps is a combo of MILD and WILD, do both (along with bananna smoothies aplenty) and there's a pretty good chance of LD'ing. I did that, I had a low level of realization, I only truly realized I was LD'ing when I woke up.
vicodin makes me dream every night it's p. cool
[QUOTE=Zarfa;25463917][img_thumb]http://i52.tinypic.com/ouphrc.png[/img_thumb]
Help anyone ? Draw this after I saw a dream about my sub torturing the love of my life using cigarettes and then killing her. Couldn't get any dreams after that and I couldn't realise I was dreaming.[/QUOTE]
Sadness, methinks.
or maybe im just still depressed cuz I crashed my car :(
any ideas as to why I can remember every other dream?
[QUOTE=UberMunchkin;25464326]Is there any way as an amateur to meet their sub as a dream? I really want to[/QUOTE]
according to solid_jake's dream journal, it takes a while before you will meet your sub
[editline]17th October 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=UberMunchkin;25467814]What should I [b]try[/b] to dream about tonight?[/QUOTE]
Try free-running
[QUOTE=UberMunchkin;25464326]Is there any way as an amateur to meet their sub as a dream? I really want to[/QUOTE]
Jake says it takes a while. I've been doing it for so long i can't remember. But I bet you could do it if you tried. Next time you LD, just put yourself somewhere you're comfortable, and then just make sure there's no one around. (Easiest way to manipulate entities inside an LD is to close your eyes, focus on what you want, and then spin around slowly in a circle). To summon your sub, just close your eyes, imagine your sub behind you. Open your eyes and turn around. Don't freak out. It won't be weird, just unsettling to suddenly have something behind you.
Have fun.
[editline]17th October 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=UberMunchkin;25467814]What should I [b]try[/b] to dream about tonight?[/QUOTE]
Whatever you want. Imagining yourself 30 years into the future is fun. I took my son to a baseball game last night.
Question:
If i am using mild, Could the mantra i repeat be something short like:
This is a dream
Or should i still use:
I will realise i am dreaming
If I ever have a really vivid LD, I'll have a game of ss13 but in real life.
[QUOTE=Zarfa;25463917][img_thumb]http://i52.tinypic.com/ouphrc.png[/img_thumb]
Help anyone ? Draw this after I saw a dream about my sub torturing the love of my life using cigarettes and then killing her. Couldn't get any dreams after that and I couldn't realise I was dreaming.[/QUOTE]
Wait, wait. WAIT. Your [b]SUB[/b] did it? I can literally think of only ONE reason that would happen, and your picture supports it.
Either you two were together at one point, or you've just lusted after her for god knows how long. Either way, you need to get over her. She's holding you back and you're using her memory to hold onto so you don't have to deal with getting over her.
[editline]17th October 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=swampie;25468236]Question:
If i am using mild, Could the mantra i repeat be something short like:
This is a dream
Or should i still use:
I will realise i am dreaming[/QUOTE]
This is a dream works, as long as you remember to RC after it.
[editline]17th October 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=Jax Strife;25462214]words[/QUOTE]
Power nap.
[editline]17th October 2010[/editline]
god i love this new reply feature
You really are a sleep master, zin!
[editline]17th October 2010[/editline]
Can you close your eyes in sleep paralysis?
[QUOTE=swampie;25468629]You really are a sleep master, zin!
[editline]17th October 2010[/editline]
Can you close your eyes in sleep paralysis?[/QUOTE]
Uh...I don't believe so, no.
Should I try to talk to my subconscious the first time?
[QUOTE=swampie;25468629]You really are a sleep master, zin!
[editline]17th October 2010[/editline]
Can you close your eyes in sleep paralysis?[/QUOTE]
Shouldn't your eyes be closed during sleep paralysis anyways?
[QUOTE=facepuke;25470427]Should I try to talk to my subconscious the first time?[/QUOTE]
Why not?
[QUOTE=facepuke;25470427]Should I try to talk to my subconscious the first time?[/QUOTE]
If it feels right, then go ahead. I mean, ultimately it's up to your sub, so whatever it's fine with should be fine.
That said, don't just jump into the really complicated stuff; your focus should be establishing procedure, so to speak. I.e. figure out what works and what you need to work on, etc.
Also, Zin? You are like 5 different kinds of awesome. Just thought I'd put that out there.
EDIT: FP definitely needs a 'Mind Blown' rating, because 'Winner' just doesn't quite do it justice
You guys sometimes sound stupid with your expectations, its a dream where you are conscious, not ultra realistic mw2.. i am experimenting with comfort deprivation, lay on your floor untill you cant take anymore, hop in bed and enjoy the SP..
[QUOTE=onforty;25471594]You guys sometimes sound stupid with your expectations, its a dream where you are conscious, not ultra realistic mw2.. i am experimenting with comfort deprivation, lay on your floor untill you cant take anymore, hop in bed and enjoy the SP..[/QUOTE]
First of all, no. Secondly, no. Third, that's a stupid idea. Comfort deprivation works with extreme discomfort, not laying on a floor. If you're tired enough, you'll fall asleep anyway. I've fallen asleep on the bathroom floor several times trying that. If you need discomfort, use your body as a bridge across two objects and try to sleep like that. That's the only way it works. Not that it working is super great anyway, it's a stupid idea with poor results and makes your body hurt. Sounds like something a psychiatrist moonlighting as a freelance chiropractor would suggest.
[QUOTE=Zinayzen;25471725]First of all, no. Secondly, no. Third, that's a stupid idea. Comfort deprivation works with extreme discomfort, not laying on a floor. If you're tired enough, you'll fall asleep anyway. I've fallen asleep on the bathroom floor several times trying that. If you need discomfort, use your body as a bridge across two objects and try to sleep like that. That's the only way it works. Not that it working is super great anyway, it's a stupid idea with poor results and makes your body hurt. Sounds like something a psychiatrist moonlighting as a freelance chiropractor would suggest.[/QUOTE]
Wow, u mad? I disagree with him too, but do you need to be so hasty in your judgement? I can definitely testify to falling asleep on the bathroom floor, though at the time I wasn't really trying to LD anyways. And in any case, onforty said he's experimenting with it, not that he's subscribed himself to it. I'd experiment with ESP but that doesn't mean I believe it. Hopefully something similar here.
EDIT: I TOTALLY AM RESPONDING TO THIS FOR SOME REASON
[QUOTE=Jessbinx;25462209]I had a huge dream last night, but the whole way through "Part Two", this really unpleasant man kept appearing. In the beginning of my second dream, he made it so that I was tied to someone else and on a train track, like one of those old silent movies. I escaped him easily, though, and went on with my dream. It progressed away from my starting location but, as my dream was ending, I was back on the beach where I'd first met him. He was fishing and ignoring me, but I knew the dream was ending and was already trying to remember by other dreams from that night. As I remembered "Part One" he turned to me and said unpleasantly "Oh, you don't want to remember that, that was from ANOTHER night", but I knew he was lying. My view panned out to the whole of the beach, the crashed train and bright sea and said again, "Look. Didn't you have all you wanted right here?"
If this is my sub, it definitely isn't the companionable, comforting thing I've known in my other dreams :| Any idea who he might be/represent?[/QUOTE]
Well, the thing that comes to my mind is the Jungian archetype (OMG JUNG) of the shade, sort of parts of yourself that you don't want to identify with for various reasons. My understanding is that it acts as natural opposition to your definition of progress, maybe to be the consequence of trying to deal with more than you can? Of course, I'm crazy obsessed with Jung, so my views on psychology are inherently skewed towards that as opposed to whatever the truth inside yourself might really be. Everyone's different after all. In any case, if he comes off as a bad guy, he probably is. That much is likely.
All right, about to hit the hay using MILD
What happens if something in the real world wakes me up? Will the dream just end?
[editline]17th October 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=onforty;25471594]You guys sometimes sound stupid with your expectations, its a dream where you are conscious, not ultra realistic mw2..[/QUOTE]
:saddowns:
The dream will most likely end, but, as always, there's a slight chance of SP.
[QUOTE=onforty;25471594]You guys sometimes sound stupid with your expectations, its a dream where you are conscious, not ultra realistic mw2.. i am experimenting with comfort deprivation, lay on your floor untill you cant take anymore, hop in bed and enjoy the SP..[/QUOTE]
lol
a great lucid [i]does[/i] feel ultra realistic
have you ever had a great quality lucid
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