Thief gets shot trying to rob a motorcycle - General

[QUOTE=Rusty100;42509316]I clearly can't convince anyone that death is always a tragedy and that there are limits to self defense (even in the eyes of the law). So I guess you guys can keep jacking it over dead criminals without anyone to disturb your sick revenge fantasies.[/QUOTE] how are you a mod, you have like full blown down syndrome everything you've said has been so irrelevant and off-point. you even came into the thread spewing asinine nonsense due to the fact that you didn't even watch the video correctly. you understand that? you are not capable of properly looking at something lmao nigga you are so dumb.

[QUOTE=Hellduck;42519080]wooooow [editline]14th October 2013[/editline] thats probably how serial killers talk tbh[/QUOTE] probably means it because the cop shot the kid twice and managed to not hurt anyone else (that we know of) since there were a bunch of cars passing by behind him and shit. a cop from a developed country probably wouldn't have taken that shot. in fact some of you used the "how do I know the gun is loaded?!?" argument which is the stupidest fuckin thing to say. always treat a gun as if were loaded.

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;42522315]I didn't know you can call utterly terrible attempts at sarcastic strawmen being edgy. The guy got shot because he was aiming a gun at a cop. He didn't get death punishment for being a thief or for having a gun or even for aiming at the cop. He got shot because that was the only way to make him stop being a lethal danger to other people. He was the one who chose to steal from people using a gun and he was the one who chose to raise a gun at a cop who's already pointing a gun at him. His decisions led to this. He's the only one responsible for getting shot. But he didn't deserve to get shot, he's still the one to blame for it though. Same way you don't deserve to die for running a red light, but that's what you're probably going to bring on yourself.[/QUOTE] no my problem was that people are saying as soon as you try to steal something from someone, you forfeit your "right to life" or whatever bullshit. I support the dude being shot in this case, it was defense on the cop's part.

Oh Jesus fucking Christ are you guys still debating was it the 'right' thing to do. Now as much as i am against the death penalty this guy had it coming,he threatened the lives of two people for his own selfish deeds. Now stop trying to be smart and witty by saying stuff as 'lel so ~edgyyy' and how we apparently discust you since someone like that criminal was killed.If you were in the same situation as the cop was,i can bet on my life that you would've pulled the trigger without even thinking twice.

[QUOTE=Idzo;42525321]Oh Jesus fucking Christ are you guys still debating was it the 'right' thing to do. Now as much as i am against the death penalty this guy had it coming,he threatened the lives of two people for his own selfish deeds. Now stop trying to be smart and witty by saying stuff as 'lel so ~edgyyy' and how we apparently discust you since someone like that criminal was killed.If you were in the same situation as the cop was,i can bet on my life that you would've pulled the trigger without even thinking twice.[/QUOTE] no-one's saying the police officer was wrong, people are just creeped out by how people are getting all hyped over a man's death, rating the op winner, saying he was[QUOTE=loopoo;42509282]no better than an animal[/QUOTE] and [QUOTE=tirpider;42518534]it was a nice take-down.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lambda 217;42529490]no-one's saying the police officer was wrong, people are just creeped out by how people are getting all hyped over a man's death, rating the op winner, saying he was and[/QUOTE] Nice that he took just the guy waving a gun around down. Yes. QUITE nice that no innocent people were hurt. People are getting creeped out because of their own sick fantasies of how they suppose other folks think.

I dunno, I don't feel sad that he died. I feel happy that no one else did.

I have no sympathy for low lives like he, I'd spit on his corpse

While I agree with the general idea that someone taking your stuff isn't worth executing another human being over, I believe that as soon as you escalate to using a firearm and brazenly stealing a motorcycle with a police officer nearby you cede your right not to be shot. Particularly when you start pointing that pistol at the cop himself because then it becomes solid self defense. That said, the sociopathic glee that some of the people have in this thread for seeing someone shot in the street is scary.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;42530506]While I agree with the general idea that someone taking your stuff isn't worth executing another human being over, I believe that as soon as you escalate to using a firearm and brazenly stealing a motorcycle with a police officer nearby you cede your right not to be shot. Particularly when you start pointing that pistol at the cop himself because then it becomes solid self defense. That said, the sociopathic glee that some of the people have in this thread for seeing someone shot in the street is scary.[/QUOTE] I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I definitely don't have any "glee" for seeing him get shot. Many things happened in that video, and I'm just glad no innocent parties were hurt and the would-be thieves failed to profit. [editline]15th October 2013[/editline] You're making it sound like we just witnessed an execution with no context.

[QUOTE=Apache249;42530622]I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I definitely don't have any "glee" for seeing him get shot. Many things happened in that video, and I'm just glad no innocent parties were hurt and the would-be thieves failed to profit.[/QUOTE] Okay I didn't name names but there are definitely people in this thread who have made some sociopathic posts. You don't have to weep for the armed robber, but being happy because someone died is weird and creepy. [QUOTE=Apache249;42530622]You're making it sound like we just witnessed an execution with no context.[/QUOTE] I explicitly stated the context in the post you quoted?? [QUOTE] While I agree with the general idea that someone taking your stuff isn't worth executing another human being over, [B]I believe that as soon as you escalate to using a firearm and brazenly stealing a motorcycle with a police officer nearby you cede your right not to be shot.[/B][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Raidyr;42530842]Okay I didn't name names but there are definitely people in this thread who have made some sociopathic posts. You don't have to weep for the armed robber, but being happy because someone died is weird and creepy. I explicitly stated the context in the post you quoted??[/QUOTE] I don't see it as being happy he died. I see it as being happy he failed to commit his crime.

[QUOTE=Apache249;42530861]I don't see it as being happy he died. I see it as being happy he failed to commit his crime.[/QUOTE] Then you haven't flipped through all 9 pages of replies like I did.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;42530873]Then you haven't flipped through all 9 pages of replies like I did.[/QUOTE] I didn't flip through all nine page, I read them, and I didn't see anyone calling for a death penalty for robbers. I did, however, see many people trying to make it seem like we were.

[QUOTE=-ZeeBo-;42529820]I have no sympathy for low lives like he, I'd spit on his corpse[/QUOTE] war crime desecration of a corpse is considered a war crime welcome to facepunch everyone, where saying "hehe wow i'd spit on a dead dude shot in an epic take down by a cop and be committing a war crime under the geneva convention if this were in a different place" gets two agree ratings

You people disgust me

[QUOTE=Rusty100;42508713]ok prob should have watched the video just assumed, given facepunch's obsession with unnecessarily violent retribution [editline]14th October 2013[/editline] ok i watched the vid. my point stands. just let the guy drive off. it's still just a thing. it's not worth potentially killing a man over.[/QUOTE] You're talking about an armed kid running around on the street pointing guns at people. What's to say the kid wouldn't have shot the next guy that wasn't quick enough to hand over the bike? In this case I side with the cop here.

How is this thread still going. He aimed a gun at a cop and he got shot. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

[QUOTE=Rusty100;42508812]yes. you can replace your stuff but you can't replace someone's life[/QUOTE] What would have happend if the cop didn´t shoot? The robber would shot the cop and then go all GTA to lose the cops. And this will put even more innocent people in danger as this guy could crash (which also happens very often in GTA) and maybe kill the parents of a little kid and ruin his life forever. What happend in this video was the perfect solution.

The guy had a gun, he aimed it at the cop. Cop has NO IDEA what the dude's intentions are, all he knows is a bike thief is aiming a firearm at him. Now, had the cop not had his firearm already out, any move he made for said firearm would have resulted in the cop getting shot. BUT, officer already had his out, because he saw an armed robbery in progress. He approaches, gun ready, probably yells for the dude to surrender, dude turns, aims his weapon, now the cop's life is in danger and you can bet your ass the cop ain't gonna let himself get shot when he's already aiming. So he takes the shot. Dude gets hit, other dude bails, dude 1 dies of his injuries. Was the cop leaping in joy that he just ended a human being's life? I doubt it. More likely the dude's face is going to be burned into his mind for years to come, constantly asking himself if he did the right thing, if there was another way that ended with everyone coming out alive. I rate this a winner not because of the loss of life, loss of life is never pleasant. I rate it winner because when it came right down to it, the cop did his job. Did the robber deserve it? no, I don't think anyone is deserving of death. Did he bring it upon himself? Yes, thats what happens when you carelessly use a gun like that. His death is his own fault.

[QUOTE=Str4fe;42518671]You speak like Tyler from Fight Club.[/QUOTE] Nah, this kid's a wannabe. He's the epitome of the stereotypical 13 year old who just saw Fight Club for the first time and didn't get the premise of it.

[QUOTE=SuddenImpact;42531970]What would have happend if the cop didn´t shoot? The robber would shot the cop and then go all GTA to lose the cops. And this will put even more innocent people in danger as this guy could crash (which also happens very often in GTA) and maybe kill the parents of a little kid and ruin his life forever. What happend in this video was the perfect solution.[/QUOTE] The perfect solution would be nobody dying at all you psycho fuck [editline]15th October 2013[/editline] and holy shit are you seriously comparing all this to a fucking game? do you really think that makes you a fucking expert

[QUOTE=Boaraes;42532712]Nah, this kid's a wannabe. He's the epitome of the stereotypical 13 year old who just saw Fight Club for the first time and didn't get the premise of it.[/QUOTE] Yea you're right. I "wannabe" smart and condescending like you! Like I already said, I thought no one would take that shit seriously. You guys have shown that you'll take ANYTHING seriously. But thats partly the reason why I love you all. Also, to contribute to the debate at hand, I have to say that people should realize that everyone has different morals and values and they will indeed look down on you if you don't share the same ideals. You aren't going to change anyone by calling them sick, or fucked up, its just going to make things more heated. There is no absolute right or absolute wrong in this scenario.

If you're going to point a weapon at somebody, you have to be prepared to have one pointed right back at you. Simple as that. Thread music [video=youtube;6am8V5KNJ4A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6am8V5KNJ4A[/video]

[QUOTE=SuddenImpact;42531970]What would have happend if the cop didn´t shoot? The robber would shot the cop and then go all GTA to lose the cops. And this will put even more innocent people in danger as this guy could crash (which also happens very often in GTA) and maybe kill the parents of a little kid and ruin his life forever. What happend in this video was the perfect solution.[/QUOTE] I also wish life was a video game

[QUOTE=Marzipas;42532738]The perfect solution would be nobody dying at all you psycho fuck [/QUOTE] Regardless of the idiocy he spouted, the "nobody dying" is not going to happen at all until all of the people are completely equal in all of senses. Which is not happening, and if someone believes it will, he's an idiot beyond help (or 13 year old "idealist"). This phrase is empty, it has no meaning, and it's not worth the air spent to say it. There're times in life when someone is going to die. And when a criminal dies instead of a cop/innocent, the impact will be less severe, as such - preferable. All life is sacred - idealistic bullshit made up by people who wage wars to tell others during the times between wars, with much help from idealistic wealthy philosophers who were priviliged enough to dream on, completely detached from reality.

A thief who tries to steal to live beyond their means is scum, no matter what they think, or whatever excuse they come up with. I hate it when people can't try to remain content with what they have, or don't try to work hard to better themselves. If you can't get any better in life, too bad, try again in the next one. At least have the dignity to not steal from others just because you were jealous about the stuff they had. Don't justify crime for purely selfish reasons. Death is an inevitable part of life, and pretty much the only certainty in our existence. I've seen death in all its forms, from the stillborn infant in a labor room to the old guy in a cancer ward who died gasping for breath from lungs that wouldn't work. So frankly, I'm jaded about the whole thing. [quote]All life is sacred - idealistic bullshit made up by people who wage wars to tell others during the times between wars, with much help from idealistic wealthy philosophers who were priviliged enough to dream on, completely detached from reality.[/quote] :rock:

holy shit rusty nobody cares

Now this is justice right here.

Imagine trying to steal a bike, and then just end as you're about to leave. But yeah justice etc.