Pat Condell... A man of a lot of opinion..Strong ones - General

This guy is fucking great.

[QUOTE=thisispain;22396605]Pat Condell is a misinformed idiot that wallows in his own little circle and smirks because he thinks he's acting cool by being "politically incorrect". He calls out whoever he likes and doesn't have anything interesting to say. All he does is feed into Islamophobia like so many scared British people do. If you actually believe Islam is taking over the UK, you need help. [editline]11:39AM[/editline] Religion was dormant, what a fucking idiot. We pay taxes to the head of the Anglican Church.[/QUOTE] Good man Someone needed to say it.

[QUOTE=Akayz;22401413]that is quite possibly the most ridiculous video ever made. more ridiculous than this [link]http://vimeo.com/11315339[/link][/QUOTE] You're the biggest troll, you shouldn't speak about ridiculous.

[QUOTE=PjaNoo^;22401473]You're the biggest troll, you shouldn't speak about ridiculous.[/QUOTE] did I say atheists were ridiculous? [B][I][U]NO[/U][/I][/B] I said the video was... get your facts straight before you reply like a complete "fool" :smug:

[QUOTE=Akayz;22401488]did I say atheists were ridiculous? [B][I][U]NO[/U][/I][/B] I said the video was... get your facts straight before you reply like a complete "fool" :smug:[/QUOTE] I may be a fool, but a fool with morals, a fool that doesn't judge people for what they believe in but what they are.

[QUOTE=thisispain;22401414]Hitchens is a dozen times more rational, and would also say the religion with the biggest dogma in the UK is the Anglican Church[/QUOTE] Anglicans aren't blowing themselves up. No Christian religion entices their believers to kill themselves. Christains don't stone women that cheat, children that steal, etc. The laws made by Anglicans aren't based off of hammurabi's code. That's the difference between Saudi Arabia and the USA/UK That's what Pat is trying to say.

[QUOTE=PjaNoo^;22401364]Watch about 2 minutes not all of it, and you'll see[/QUOTE] I'm about one third in and all I've seen is shitty editing.

There is such a thing as British culture, thisisspain. Perhaps you might not understand it considering you aren't from the UK.

[QUOTE=PjaNoo^;22401510]I may be a fool, but a fool with morals, a fool that doesn't judge people for what they believe in but what they are.[/QUOTE] yeah... quoting from the bible... always the right way to solve problems... or cause them. I can't even be asked to explain. I'll let this dude do it. WARNING: 19 minutes long. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Zk5h8AW1pc[/media]

He's a dick. But he's not a bigoted dick. If you want a british atheist who isn't a dick, try Dawkins.

Dawkins just outright hates religion, what are you on about?

4:02 to 4:06 is hilarious

[QUOTE=Akayz;22401559]yeah... quoting from the bible... always the right way to solve problems... or cause them. I can't even be asked to explain. I'll let this dude do it. WARNING: 19 minutes long. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Zk5h8AW1pc[/media][/QUOTE] Didn't know that was from the bible, I've never read it. That is directly from my brain, but hey if the bible says this obviously great minds think alike.

[QUOTE=PjaNoo^;22401611]Didn't know that was from the bible, I've never read it. That is directly from my brain, but hey if the bible says this obviously great minds think alike.[/QUOTE] yeah I was talking about the video quoting from the bible.. thought you actually watched it. Sorry to burst your bubble. :dance:

[QUOTE=Akayz;22401652]yeah I was talking about the video quoting from the bible.. thought you actually watched it. Sorry to burst your bubble. :dance:[/QUOTE] wat, you lost me

[QUOTE=Wayword;22401516]Anglicans aren't blowing themselves up. No Christian religion entices their believers to kill themselves. Christains don't stone women that cheat, children that steal, etc. The laws made by Anglicans aren't based off of hammurabi's code. That's the difference between Saudi Arabia and the USA/UK That's what Pat is trying to say.[/QUOTE] pat is being extremely paranoid, so are you. the fact is, Christians blow up abortion clinics, shoot abortion doctors, for christ's sake.. do some reading: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism[/url] [QUOTE=Wayword;22401592]Dawkins just outright hates religion, what are you on about?[/QUOTE] again, you are clueless. they (dawkins and hitchens) do not hate religion. they in fact have NO problem with people practicing religion within their own homes. they "hate" it when religion is used to justify public policy or when it is used in the creation of laws. they believe wholeheartedly in secularism, not the destruction of religion (although this would not be a bad thing)

[url]http://vimeo.com/11315339[/url] you did quote me..

[QUOTE=Akayz;22401729][url]http://vimeo.com/11315339[/url] you did quote me..[/QUOTE] Still losing ya, don't understand what the heck you're talking about.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13eDfrMgFQM[/media]

[QUOTE=siberpredaht;22401687]pat is being extremely paranoid, so are you. the fact is, Christians blow up abortion clinics, shoot abortion doctors, for christ's sake.. do some reading: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism[/url] again, you are clueless. they (dawkins and hitchens) do not hate religion. they in fact have NO problem with people practicing religion within their own homes. they "hate" it when religion is used to justify public policy or when it is used in the creation of laws. they believe wholeheartedly in secularism, not the destruction of religion (although this would not be a bad thing)[/QUOTE] A small portion of Christian fundamentalists do that shit. A small number of extremists from every religion do crazy things, doesn't mean it's the consensus of the religion. The point is extremists might kill other people, but blowing yourself up goes against your natural desire to survive. Also, the Richard Dawkins things is just an opinion, as I understand it if it was up to him, there would be no religion.

Muslims usually condemn the their extremists. Though we all know that all religions all secretly would like to have everyone worship their faith, just as much as I'd like people to be atheist. Of course Muslims would love us to become Muslims and adopt their culture that has been more or less kept the same for hundreds of years, the same with Christians and Buddhists and Hindus etc.

[QUOTE=siberpredaht;22401687]pat is being extremely paranoid, so are you. the fact is, Christians blow up abortion clinics, shoot abortion doctors, for christ's sake.. do some reading: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism[/url] again, you are clueless. they (dawkins and hitchens) do not hate religion. they in fact have NO problem with people practicing religion within their own homes. they "hate" it when religion is used to justify public policy or when it is used in the creation of laws. they believe wholeheartedly in secularism, not the destruction of religion (although this would not be a bad thing)[/QUOTE] It sounds like you can find a man from every religion that has done something crazy. It would be better to say a "man/woman" did this or did that. A Christian has started a war, but it was the man part of him that started it, if you follow what I'm saying. I have seen a lot of disturbing verses from the Quran that most modern societies would not allow.

[QUOTE=Wayword;22401811]A small portion of Christian fundamentalists do that shit. A small number of extremists from every religion do crazy things, doesn't mean it's the consensus of the religion. The point is extremists might kill other people, but blowing yourself up goes against your natural desire to survive.[/quote] one only has to look at the crusades to see that many were willing to die simply to "go to heaven". islam is not unique in their idea of martyrdom. honestly, i'm not sure what your point is. you admit the fact that extremism is prevalent in most religions, but you're saying it is more prevalent in islam? [quote] Also, the Richard Dawkins things is just an opinion, as I understand it if it was up to him, there would be no religion.[/QUOTE] it will never be up to him. you're using "what ifs" to portray dawkins as some sort of evil man. i'll say it again, dawkins has NO problem with people practicing religion in the privacy of their own home or church. [editline]10:47PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Hostel;22401907]It sounds like you can find a man from every religion that has done something crazy. It would be better to say a "man/woman" did this or did that. A Christian has started a war, but it was the man part of him that started it, if you follow what I'm saying.[/QUOTE] i was not criticizing religion in my post, i was simply stating that each religion has their own minute percentage of bad apples. but if you insist. i really do believe in this quote. "Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."

As much as wikipedia isn't a creditable source, it calls him a militant atheist, which gives me more proof than you. Where does he say he doesn't mind religion? [editline]06:49PM[/editline] Fighting in battle is completely different than blowing yourself up. For one, if you fight, you may not die. If you survive a war, you come back with honor. There's no chance of surviving a bomb strapped to your chest.

[QUOTE=siberpredaht;22401930] but if you insist. i really do believe in this quote. "Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."[/QUOTE] If I were not of sound mind I could blow up a communter train over political ideology just as easily as over religious ideology.

Anyone who uses the term 'militant atheist' to describe Dawkins deserves enough boxes to blot out the sky. Militant is what you call those american fundies who supported that ugandan gays bill. Dawkins is an Athiest who doesn't roll over and play dead when a theist enters the room. [quote]If I were not of sound mind I could blow up a communter train over political ideology just as easily as over religious ideology. [/quote] Quite right. The problem is faith. Faith in political ideologies is as problematic as religious. And before you say that crap about atheism requiring as much faith as religion see this:[url]http://gretachristina.typepad.com/greta_christinas_weblog/2010/04/atheist-meme-of-the-day-atheism-not-not-require-100-positive-proof.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Wayword;22401516]Anglicans aren't blowing themselves up.[/QUOTE] pff, only because they didn't have bombs. [QUOTE=Wayword;22401516]No Christian religion entices their believers to kill themselves.[/QUOTE] define christian religion. [QUOTE=Wayword;22401516]Christains don't stone women that cheat, children that steal, etc.[/QUOTE] You can't say that for sure. [QUOTE=Wayword;22401516]The laws made by Anglicans aren't based off of hammurabi's code.[/QUOTE] Neither is the Islamic law. Islamic law was actually the next step up in terms of rights compared to Hammurabi code. [QUOTE=Wayword;22401516]That's the difference between Saudi Arabia and the USA/UK[/QUOTE] Yes, and the muslims in the UK understand that. Pat Condell is still an idiot. [editline]05:26PM[/editline] [QUOTE=erazor;22401554]Perhaps you might not understand it considering you aren't from the UK.[/QUOTE] I am from the UK you dolt. Born and raised in Brighton. [editline]05:30PM[/editline] I'm just trying to point out the intense double standard between Christianity and Islam. You're all cool with the Anglican Church taking tax payer money, yet you find the fantasy of a Muslim dominated England disgusting.

Why are you putting so much effort into replying to mindless comments? Sure Pat Condell is a bigot, doesnt make him a bad person. His views are strong. He talks with courage. But he never argues with anybody who oppose him. He is the respectable real version version of south park Watch south park to get some perspective

[QUOTE=Akayz;22404237]Why are you putting so much effort into replying to mindless comments? [/QUOTE] bored i guess, it's too hot to do stuff [QUOTE=Akayz;22404237]Sure Pat Condell is a bigot, doesnt make him a bad person. His views are strong.[/QUOTE] he's still dumb [QUOTE=Akayz;22404237]But he never argues with anybody who oppose him.[/QUOTE] that's a bad thing, he's scared of being challenged. [QUOTE=Akayz;22404237]He is the respectable real version version of south park Watch south park to get some perspective[/QUOTE] nothing like south park

[QUOTE=archangel125;22373051]I love this guy. He's completely right, by the way. It's simple. If you go to another country, you follow that country's laws and keep your mouth shut about your religious crap. If you're offended by that country's culture, well, why the fuck did you go there in the first place?[/QUOTE] Agree'd. Follow the laws until you can get them changed to your liking (If you can.)