[QUOTE=Bobie;30893612]was there a reward for the whole thing?[/QUOTE]
300$
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Speaking of which... I decided to check my WODtime entry, and I got the feeling I'm going to lose to one of the (last minute) entries, so I decided to check some of his previous designs...
[img]http://gyazo.com/0771bee467e9271efce0259d7090bf9e.png[/img]
He got rated one star on the original, "rock your body" design, so I can only assume he brought up this contest, saw my clock design and slapped it on there, and reused the flexing arm on a third design just in case
i'm just getting completely fucked over atm... my only other entry is one of about 20 and the contest holder has given ONE FEEDBACK TOTAL
[QUOTE=rilez;30893624]300$[/QUOTE]
thats pretty bad that someone would pay 300 for a logo so poor, im sure you'll find something bigger in the future :)
[QUOTE=Bobie;30893651]thats pretty bad that someone would pay 300 for a logo so poor, im sure you'll find something bigger in the future :)[/QUOTE]
Hah, thanks. I really hope so; I've had no luck yet.
[QUOTE=rilez;30893269]Client wanted a new crest for their fraternity... something new and fresh, "possibly" incorporating aspects from the old crest. They provided two resources, one picture of the original crest and one picture of a new triangle logo that represents their frat.
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/crest_2.png[/img]
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/a_oz_bw_2.jpg[/img]
First design, I simplify the shield and incorporate part of their new logo "idea" in the middle... liked the "simple" approach, wanted more aspects of the crest. I reply and ask them what aspects they would like to include the most... 2 days and no response later, I just decide to add some of the features I thought tied in the best, and submitted.
Another day, and he rates it 1 star out of 5, just like the last. I look at the design submissions, and one has 3 stars. I take a peek...
It's literally a fucking vector of the original crest. He LiveTraced the original crest, LiveTraced the new triangle, put a "gold" gradient on the triangle, and slapped the triangle in the middle. It's stylish, but maybe a bit too much.
My attempt:
[thumb]http://gyazo.com/63c7faaca038306ea8afc8d3038e05f8.png[/thumb]
His entry:
[img]http://gyazo.com/5b0abddaa37ba4f86aecad2e9e0ce76d.png[/img]
I'm pissed that I wasted this much time on the project for him to prefer a LiveTrace... he's planning on using this new design on print. Good luck.[/QUOTE]
Somebody needs a good hard kick in the balls.
Yours is better, but I still find yours very lacking. The symbols doesn't really make any sense and the contrasts of the triangle and diamond is overwhelming when the whole shield is just plain grey.
[QUOTE=dgg;30893779]Somebody needs a good hard kick in the balls.
Yours is better, but I still find yours very lacking. The symbols doesn't really make any sense and the contrasts of the triangle and diamond is overwhelming when the whole shield is just plain grey.[/QUOTE]
At that point I was just trying to get ANY feedback. I thought it was a bit much, but the old crest was just so complicated that I really just wanted to design it first and fix those things later... The "alternate version" had some dark grey to help the contrast but I've since pulled them so there's not much point :v:
I would have designed a B/W version first but using the original crest colors was important to the client
ITT really good artists getting treated like shit IRL. Good show.
[QUOTE=MrWhite;30894771]ITT really good artists getting treated like shit IRL. Good show.[/QUOTE]
This happens too often to be honest. The first three times it happened to me I got really pissed and demotivated, then I learned to roll with it, and accept that it's the client's decision. That's why I always take the approach of a business image advisor with the client and try to reason with them on why they should do X or why they shouldn't do Y, of course, to benefit myself and make things easier for me (this doesn't mean the work will be crappy, actually most of the times the client ends up very happy with the result)
For instance:
Once, I was asked to do a logo refresh for a newspaper, their logo was just a text on impact that said "El Venezolano" with two flags horribly placed, what I did is I kept the font (I know, it's hard to make impact look good) but changed the letter spacing, changed the colors to something more refreshing and made a waving continous flag tying the two flags together.
[thumb]https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Public/Portafolio/Venezolanologorefresh.jpg?w=d7490469[/thumb]
Then out of nowhere, I realized they hired another guy to make another logo so they could choose between the two and it turned into a contest. I don't have what the guy did but I can describe it easily:
"El Venezolano" with myriad pro italic bold. Black text, nothing else. They chose that one. I actually laughed because of pathetic the whole thing was. But still, I didn't get my 60 bucks. :smith:
Also, is it bad that I actually prefer to do logos with photoshop rather than Illustrator?
[QUOTE=barttool;30896865]This happens too often to be honest. The first three times it happened to me I got really pissed and demotivated, then I learned to roll with it, and accept that it's the client's decision. That's why I always take the approach of a business image advisor with the client and try to reason with them on why they should do X or why they shouldn't do Y, of course, to benefit myself and make things easier for me (this doesn't mean the work will be crappy, actually most of the times the client ends up very happy with the result)
For instance:
Once, I was asked to do a logo refresh for a newspaper, their logo was just a text on impact that said "El Venezolano" with two flags horribly placed, what I did is I kept the font (I know, it's hard to make impact look good) but changed the letter spacing, changed the colors to something more refreshing and made a waving continous flag tying the two flags together.
[thumb]https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Public/Portafolio/Venezolanologorefresh.jpg?w=d7490469[/thumb]
Then out of nowhere, I realized they hired another guy to make another logo so they could choose between the two and it turned into a contest. I don't have what the guy did but I can describe it easily:
"El Venezolano" with myriad pro italic bold. Black text, nothing else. They chose that one. I actually laughed because of pathetic the whole thing was. But still, I didn't get my 60 bucks. :smith:
Also, is it bad that I actually prefer to do logos with photoshop rather than Illustrator?[/QUOTE]
Key rule in graphic design. Be creative but don't forget that it's the people you are doing it for that gets to chose, what you think looks good or not doesn't really matter, you can only tell them why yours looks better and give good arguments for it, if they're not convinced then suck it.
It's indeed quite pathetic that they even bought a logo they could have made themselves. Would hardly even call it a logo since it's just text with a normal font.
[QUOTE=barttool;30896865]Also, is it bad that I actually prefer to do logos with photoshop rather than Illustrator?[/QUOTE]
Only if they are not in vector format.
This text I just downloaded has some strange outline to it... it depends on the color and size, generally the smaller it is the more pronounced this becomes (click to enlarge)
[thumb]http://filesmelt.com/dl/strangetext-01.png[/thumb]
I don't notice it at all on yellow... it's a little worse for red and it looks awful on blue
Anyone know what this is/if I can fix it? Adobe Illustrator CS5
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The darker the BG is and the darker the text is, the more that outline shows up... just tested it with a shit ton of other fonts and they all have it
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/bluetext-01.png[/img]
looks like it could be something to do with text anti-aliasing? try messing around with those settings.
[QUOTE=rilez;30897985]This text I just downloaded has some strange outline to it... it depends on the color and size, generally the smaller it is the more pronounced this becomes (click to enlarge)
[thumb]http://filesmelt.com/dl/strangetext-01.png[/thumb]
I don't notice it at all on yellow... it's a little worse for red and it looks awful on blue
Anyone know what this is/if I can fix it? Adobe Illustrator CS5
[editline]4th July 2011[/editline]
The darker the BG is and the darker the text is, the more that outline shows up... just tested it with a shit ton of other fonts and they all have it
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/bluetext-01.png[/img][/QUOTE]
Set the output settings on "Save to Web Devices" to "Art Optimized".
If you're experiencing this inside Illustrator then hold on and I'll find the settings.
Noticed I have this myself. And it's definitely just a anti-aliasing problem. because when I turned off anti-aliasing then it's alright, but pixely sharp edges obviously.
Hmm, I was sure I had found a solution to this before. Seems not. But it's just Illustrator being a failure at Anti-Aliasing for some reason. As long as you leave matte turned off and export with Type Optimization under Save For Web Devices then it's not something that should ruin your work. Just your eyes.
[QUOTE=rilez;30901473][img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/fpprevgamejul4-01.png[/img]
CC? :*)[/QUOTE]
really cheesy slogan but it looks good, maybe tone down the gradients a little bit
[QUOTE=rilez;30901473][img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/fpprevgamejul4-01.png[/img]
CC? :*)[/QUOTE]
I agree with Bobie. Maybe make gamepatrol matte and leave the rest as is.
Or maybe make the gradient on the yellow wider.
[QUOTE=Bobie;30901500]really cheesy slogan but it looks good, maybe tone down the gradients a little bit[/QUOTE]
Hah, client's decision. I can't think of any others :v:
How's this? Toned down the gradients a bit, and made the slogan a bit smaller:
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/fpprevgameejul4-01.png[/img]
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Don't want to lose them completely on the gamepatrol bit, imo it's more like a siren if it lightens towards the top
[QUOTE=rilez;30902119]Hah, client's decision. I can't think of any others :v:
How's this? Toned down the gradients a bit, and made the slogan a bit smaller:
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/fpprevgameejul4-01.png[/img]
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Don't want to lose them completely on the gamepatrol bit, imo it's more like a siren if it lightens towards the top[/QUOTE]
looks great! but perhaps you could make the yellow bar a tad slimmer so it doesn't take all the attention away from the company's name.
Two more!
This one is for an iPhone health application that keeps track of a few things... including your heart rate and cholesterol. Pretty neat, check em' out if you want: [url]http://www.scanadu.com/[/url]
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/fpprevscanadu-01.png[/img]
The second one is for a file streaming service called Folders.io (think Dropbox, but completely online):
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/fpprevfoldjul4-01.png[/img]
That outer glow looks horrible
[QUOTE=rilez;30906728][img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/fpprevfoldjul4-01.png[/img][/QUOTE]
Preeeeeeeeeeetty obvious you copied the smile/line/arrow from the amazon logo. Even i noticed it.
I didn't copy it but I didn't notice until after I submitted the design (and after the client eliminated my design)
that's what I get for designing with no sleep
Rilez is a lazy logo looter!
Yo Rilez I'd stay away from contest sites, you're work is too good to hand off for free, even though they claim it doesn't work like that.
Set yourself up a nice portfolio or I'll send you a cargo invite and start pulling in your own clients, I think you'd get much more profit that way.
[QUOTE=kabookie;30930980]Yo Rilez I'd stay away from contest sites, you're work is too good to hand off for free, even though they claim it doesn't work like that.
Set yourself up a nice portfolio or I'll send you a cargo invite and start pulling in your own clients, I think you'd get much more profit that way.[/QUOTE]
Thanks mate. I've been using the contest sites more as a portfolio builder than for the money... I don't have much of a portfolio yet; I've only just recently been taking graphic design seriously, even though it's always been a hobby of mine. Really not sure where to get started, tbh.
If you know of something better, I'd love to try it out.
LARGE IMAGE INCOMING!
[IMG]http://i56.tinypic.com/30129zd.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=PJAMA;30957192]LARGE IMAGE INCOMING!
[IMG]http://i56.tinypic.com/30129zd.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
you can now use [thumb] tags to thumb your images you know.
Also, that doesn't really look yummy.
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Added Occlusion's post to the highlights section!
You guys are pretty great at making logos, are there any good tips when it comes to making good ones?
[QUOTE=Cobra Dude;30960149]You guys are pretty great at making logos, are there any good tips when it comes to making good ones?[/QUOTE]
My thought process goes like this:
[LIST]
[*]Get any information you can from the client about their business or whatever you're making a logo for. Read their website, figure out what they do... etc.
[*]Think of something creative to incorporate, but also simple. I always start my logo in B/W and 2D. unless the client wants very specific colors or shapes. Messing with colors later won't save a shitty design.
[*]Make it memorable, and make it easy to understand... simple logos are often better than complicated ones.
[*]Hard points are preferable over rounded ones; you're going to want clean lines in your logo.
[*]Colors are a bit more complicated. Your client will most likely want the logo in CMYK format for print. The less colors you have on a logo destined for print, the better. If your design is for print, stay away from gradients. Gradient's are okay on a display, not on print. If it's not destined for print, RGB and gradients should be fine.
[*]Presentation is important too. If you have a client, you're going to want to show them what the logo looks like in a variety of situations... here's one I just designed (I posted a design for this company earlier, but they wanted a new symbol and I made some other minor changes):
[/LIST]
[IMG]http://99designs.com/designs/8738040-original[/IMG]
Those are just a few of the things I do anyway.
is that a woman's breast?
[QUOTE=rilez;30960430]My thought process goes like this:
[LIST]
[*]Get any information you can from the client about their business or whatever you're making a logo for. Read their website, figure out what they do... etc.
[*]Think of something creative to incorporate, but also simple. I always start my logo in B/W and 2D. unless the client wants very specific colors or shapes. Messing with colors later won't save a shitty design.
[*]Make it memorable, and make it easy to understand... simple logos are often better than complicated ones.
[*]Hard points are preferable over rounded ones; you're going to want clean lines in your logo.
[*]Colors are a bit more complicated. Your client will most likely want the logo in CMYK format for print. The less colors you have on a logo destined for print, the better. If your design is for print, stay away from gradients. Gradient's are okay on a display, not on print. If it's not destined for print, RGB and gradients should be fine.
[*]Presentation is important too. If you have a client, you're going to want to show them what the logo looks like in a variety of situations... here's one I just designed (I posted a design for this company earlier, but they wanted a new symbol and I made some other minor changes):
[/LIST]
[IMG]http://99designs.com/designs/8738040-original[/IMG]
Those are just a few of the things I do anyway.[/QUOTE]
This is really great!
I think this should definitely be in the highlights it's very useful.
Stop doing design contests... It's bad for the industry and devalues design work as a whole. I do this for a living and I've never had a need to step foot in a design contest. Spec work is a bad thing.
[url]http://www.no-spec.com/[/url]
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Also, saying hard edges are preferable to rounded edges in a logo is going to depend completely on the feel that your client wants their brand to portray.
And gradients are acceptable for print. You don't have to avoid them completely. You just need a solid color fallback. It's the same as you needing a single color B/W fallback for any colored logo you design.
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Also definitely stop calling the people running contests your clients lol
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