• The Facepunch Graphic Design Thread
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[QUOTE=Autumn;32903435] and i'm not splitting hairs, you just don't have a clue what you're talking about. [/QUOTE] Look I appreciate that you're trying to help, but being condescending over terms and explaining the pen tool to me really doesn't Like at all I swear you're just trying to insult me with that tutorial, in fact Can anyone in here answer what I originally asked? When I said selections I meant like marquees, not object selections or manual ones using any tool. Come to think of it, it pretty much comes down to whether there's marching ants in AI. I assume I can do what I want to do if there is, if not I probably can't. So is there?
[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;32914957]Look I appreciate that you're trying to help, but being condescending over terms and explaining the pen tool to me really doesn't Like at all I swear you're just trying to insult me with that tutorial, in fact Can anyone in here answer what I originally asked? When I said selections I meant like marquees, not object selections or manual ones using any tool. Come to think of it, it pretty much comes down to whether there's marching ants in AI. I assume I can do what I want to do if there is, if not I probably can't. So is there?[/QUOTE] There are no marching ants in Illustrator. Marching ants only applies to pixel based image editing (raster) like in Photoshop. Illustrator only works with vector graphics, meaning you only have endlessly scalable paths, so cutting them off based on pixels is impossible as they are not tied to pixels at all. [QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;32858104]Oh yes of course, the bloody pen tool. I can use it alright but I don't entirely like it But surely you can load alpha channels out of photoshop and vectorise the selections with AI? All I had in mind was that BATS text, just occurred to me that would be the easiest way to resize it[/QUOTE] Reading your actual question again... You can of course cut out "STAB" through the channels or whatever the fuck you want and drag and drop it over to illustrator and then live trace it or manually draw over it with the pen tool. (live trace will look like shit, so you'd be better of doing it yourself. Even better would as it has been stated, find a similar or identical font).
Thanks man
[QUOTE=dgg;32914430]Swatches is useful to learn in order to get a good an consistent colour palette. As well as being able to make gradients. Pathfinder is THE most useful tool in Illustrator, next to the pen tool. Black and white. Not Black & White. (as in, the black and the white, two pointers, not one)[/QUOTE] The fact that it's so useful, and that it's not required at all for flash work, is mainly what I was getting at in relation to the pathfinder. [editline]23rd October 2011[/editline] It's just more personable and efficient in flash, you don't need a million tools to do what you wanna do. It's all done with user interaction and not a tool process.
[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;32914957]Look I appreciate that you're trying to help, but being condescending over terms and explaining the pen tool to me really doesn't Like at all I swear you're just trying to insult me with that tutorial, in fact Can anyone in here answer what I originally asked? When I said selections I meant like marquees, not object selections or manual ones using any tool. Come to think of it, it pretty much comes down to whether there's marching ants in AI. I assume I can do what I want to do if there is, if not I probably can't. So is there?[/QUOTE] as dgg said, marching ants don't exist in Ai, because they are raster based, and not vector. however, you can turn marching ants into a vector outline, but the results aren't very good. this is how... oh, unless you want to think i'm just trying to insult you again and won't bother reading it, despite the fact i'm actually only trying to show you how it works. [t]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19936378/msd1.png[/t] 1. raster text, selected with the marching ants (however you want to do it, i use colour select). open the paths menu, and at the bottom click the button that says Make work path from selection [t]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19936378/msd2.png[/t] 2. this is your vector outline [t]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19936378/msd3.png[/t] 3. drag/copy it into Ai and this is what it should look like [t]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19936378/msd4.png[/t] 4. filling it will colour most of the letters correctly, but as you can see, the counters on the Bs are also filled in. to fix this, double click on the B (or any letter) to enter Isolation Mode (you should read up on this, it's important), then click on the first B counter, hold shift and click on the second B counter. now they're both selected, change the fill colour from black to white [t]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19936378/msd5.png[/t] 5. now the counters are the right colour, hold shift and select the 2 white counters, and the black outline of the B, open the Pathfinder menu, and click the Minus Front button. now the B is correctly displayed as an outline and not a solid B with 2 counters in the middle so that is how you *can* change marching ants into a vector outline, but i wouldn't really recommend it, because Ps (unsurprisingly) isn't that great at handling vectors, and often does a pretty shoddy job of transforming from raster to vector outline. this is the difference between Ps and Ai [t]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19936378/msd6.png[/t] so if you can work in vector from the start, you're saving yourself a lot of work, and the final outcome is likely to be better.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;32919057]The fact that it's so useful, and that it's not required at all for flash work, is mainly what I was getting at in relation to the pathfinder. It's just more personable and efficient in flash, you don't need a million tools to do what you wanna do. It's all done with user interaction and not a tool process.[/QUOTE] I can understand that, but then the colour control, stroke control and layer system is shit in Flash in my opinion.
[QUOTE=dgg;32922005]I can understand that, but then the colour control, stroke control and layer system is shit in Flash in my opinion.[/QUOTE] Seriously? Those are so much better too, ESPECIALLY gradient control.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;32922015]Seriously? Those are so much better too, ESPECIALLY gradient control.[/QUOTE] Personal taste. I could never live with the layer system in flash for anything but animation.
the layering system in flash is a godsend, but i understand how that could come down to personal taste. however there's no way the gradient tool has anything to do with taste. its just way way way more efficient
[QUOTE=Rusty100;32922083]the layering system in flash is a godsend, but i understand how that could come down to personal taste. however there's no way the gradient tool has anything to do with taste. its just way way way more efficient[/QUOTE] Well, the gradient system in Illustrator is fucking retarded, so you don't need much to beat that. "Hey! Want to change this gradients colour? YOU NEED A SWATCH FOR THAT! WHAT?! You thought you could pick a colour manually in the gradient itself?! HAHAHAHAHAAH!"
[QUOTE=dgg;32922103]Well, the gradient system in Illustrator is fucking retarded, so you don't need much to beat that. "Hey! Want to change this gradients colour? YOU NEED A SWATCH FOR THAT! WHAT?! You thought you could pick a colour manually in the gradient itself?! HAHAHAHAHAAH!"[/QUOTE] what, you can choose colors manually, or am i missing out?
in flash you can select either spectrum of the gradient on the right hand side in colour properties, and select any colour you want manually with the colour picker [img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1482927/gradientsfg.png[/img]
Flash is awesome for vectoring, especially if you use the grid. I use it exclusively for my vectoring needs and it has never let me down.
[QUOTE=D3TBS;32937447]what, you can choose colors manually, or am i missing out?[/QUOTE] You can, but you have to make swatches for the colours you want to use first. At least I haven't found a better way yet. When you make a gradient the "colour" window is replaced with greyscales from white to black and you can't change that. So you can only uses pre-made swatches to change the colour. AHAHAHAHHHH... Just figured it out. It retardedly chose greyscales as default, but if you click on the top corner of the colour window you can change it to RGB or CMYK and chose colours manually. A very unneccessary step to take though that slows down the process and you have to do it over again to change the other colour tab, given that it uses a different colour spectrum.
yep, its kinda annoying to always having to change it to RGB. And it's similar to Flash I can see [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ArQKI.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=D3TBS;32942196]yep, its kinda annoying to always having to change it to RGB.[/QUOTE] Kinda? It's fucking retarded.
[QUOTE=Oicani Gonzales;32942716]most stuff is made for printing and printing is in cmyk so no its not[/QUOTE] It's not set to CMYK as standard. It's set to Greyscale. And changing it should not be so retardedly halting. There should just be dropdown menu and it should convert all the colour tabs automatically to that colour range (press on a tab to change only that instead)((seriously, why would you want one colour tab to be RGB and another CMYK/Greyscale?)).
[QUOTE=Oicani Gonzales;32945830]on a fresh install its cmyk by default[/QUOTE] It's never been anything else for me than a black to white gradient on fresh install set in the greyscale spectrum. Still is. And this is a fresh install.
so a friend of mine said he was watching a movie called [I]Helvetica[/I]. Have you watched it before?
[QUOTE=dgg;32947084]It's never been anything else for me than a black to white gradient on fresh install set in the greyscale spectrum. Still is. And this is a fresh install.[/QUOTE] then there's something not quite right, because i've never had any problems with it being greyscale by default i'm on CS4
[QUOTE=Autumn;32956096]then there's something not quite right, because i've never had any problems with it being greyscale by default i'm on CS4[/QUOTE] I'm on CS5. [editline]25th October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=D3TBS;32955639]so a friend of mine said he was watching a movie called [I]Helvetica[/I]. Have you watched it before?[/QUOTE] Yeah, a month ago in our school. Good movie. It's good that it shows people that are blessed by it and people that hate it. The only thing I disliked is that all the anti-helvetica people were so anti that all they more or less made was experimental shitheaps of typography. You know, when nothing is in order and is thrown all around or lots and lots of swirls and shit. But, the extremes makes for the best contrasts in these kind of things anyways.
tried again at the poster for a new club I'm starting at school [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/A2NI6.jpg[/img_thumb] What are your thoughts?
graphic and web being aligned to one side is throwing of the text's balance
[QUOTE=Rusty100;32959211]graphic and web being aligned to one side is throwing of the text's balance[/QUOTE] yeah I know but having it stretched over the top of the whole 'DESIGN CLUB' text would make it seem like it's saying DESIGN CLUB with graphic and web being sort of tags, rather than it being a graphic and web design club
I like the tree but the title is a bit too near the tree, maybe lower it a bit?
I don't like how nothing is on line. The three and the bottom text are not centered to eachother. Graphic & Web is not on line with anything. It's really unbalanced and annoying to look at right now. Also, the font you used for the title has such thin lines they are almost eaten up and the serifs are wide as fuck. I don't like that personally. I would have tried to find a serif font that is a bit more consistent in it's line width to make it more pleasant to read as a title.
[QUOTE=Alcapwne;32959229]yeah I know but having it stretched over the top of the whole 'DESIGN CLUB' text would make it seem like it's saying DESIGN CLUB with graphic and web being sort of tags, rather than it being a graphic and web design club[/QUOTE] Put CLUB underneath DESIGN
[b]Quick question![/b] [thumb]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/32719274/Untitled-2.png[/thumb] How can I create a line like this. I did this, but I cant figure out how to make it look better. I made it using the pen tool, creating a circle, stroking this bith the brush and then strocking it with a )( formed eraser brush with high spacing. But I don't really like it. Is there any better technique? [editline]26th October 2011[/editline] And Oicani, where did you get that fancy paper texture?
[QUOTE=Oicani Gonzales;32973550]Some guy posted this picture: [img]http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z332/FJCJonii/1907.jpg[/img] I felt like it was a good chance to practice Illustrator (I suck so much at it it ain't even funny) and made this: [t]http://filesmelt.com/dl/RainbowScienceBARS.png[/t] Criticize as much as you can, please![/QUOTE] u should try to avoid having text hit so close to the edges [editline]27th October 2011[/editline] always leave a decent buffer
[QUOTE=Mindfuck 2;32974150]How can I create a line like this. I did this, but I cant figure out how to make it look better. I made it using the pen tool, creating a circle, stroking this bith the brush and then strocking it with a )( formed eraser brush with high spacing. But I don't really like it. Is there any better technique?[/QUOTE] Make a circle with red fill. Copy that circle, minimize it whilst holding in ALT + SHIFT. Make fill transparent and give it a white stroke. In the Stroke window (window - stroke) set it to dashed lines. [editline]26th October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Oicani Gonzales;32976020]Because of printing, right? Will keep that in mind, I thought that what I had was good enough[/QUOTE] Nope. You can stuff things in the edges if you want (just avoid it for books as it will get lost in the bend). But it's not aesthetically pleasing. When text goes all out to the edges (well, anything in general, but it depends) it becomes really cramped in and makes it a lot harder and busier to read, it also leaves no room for resting.
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