[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;48986007]I have confidence in the new Star Wars film. JJ Abrams has already made two really good Star Wars films, I don't see why his third would be any different.[/QUOTE]
That's what concerns me. Abrams made 2 bad Star Trek films, the last one being so up it's ass with pandering to the old films by referencing The Wrath of Khan throughout that it was a mess. It's gonna be hard to take him seriously for Star Wars after those two disasters.
[QUOTE=maddogsamurai;48986936]That's what concerns me. Abrams made 2 bad Star Trek films, the last one being so up it's ass with pandering to the old films by referencing The Wrath of Khan throughout that it was a mess. It's gonna be hard to take him seriously for Star Wars after those two disasters.[/QUOTE]
abrams was brought in for star trek to make a nerdy show appeal to the dumb masses who only know a couple basic things about it, which took a lot of compression and dumbing down, but was ultimately successful in its goal thanks to being pretty good as a sci-fi action movie. which means he's a perfect fit for star wars because it doesn't need that simplification or mass appeal, so all you get is the fun adventurous science-fantasy that was likable in stark trek, and he doesn't even need to piss on any ashes to do so.
(i mean assuming episode seven is good)
I'm glad I didn't suffer this shit.
I was too young when the Phantom Menace came out to see it, and I was still very young when the Clone Wars came out. I was old enough to watch Revenge of the Sith in the theater though.
However, my parents are awesome and they knew how shit the new movies were, so they had me watch the originals first when I was little.
[QUOTE=Cone;48987035]abrams was brought in for star trek to make a nerdy show appeal to the dumb masses who only know a couple basic things about it, which took a lot of compression and dumbing down, but was ultimately successful in its goal thanks to being pretty good as a sci-fi action movie. which means he's a perfect fit for star wars because it doesn't need that simplification or mass appeal, so all you get is the fun adventurous science-fantasy that was likable in stark trek, and he doesn't even need to piss on any ashes to do so.
(i mean assuming episode seven is good)[/QUOTE]
Into Darkness was a shit tier action film in regard to plot or character motivations and is a waste of time when you can just watch Wrath of Khan for the same movie but better.
So basically you have looks and that is it.
I am concerned with character motivations since Darth iRevan is apparently "I will finish what you started." motive is abit vague seeing how Darth Vader never had a overarching goal ever explained, and JJ has dropped the ball pretty hard on important character cameos in the past such as Leonard Nimoy.
But hey, maybe without that shitty Roberto Orci writer on staff this time (Genius behind Cowboys vs Aliens, The Island, and Amazing Spider man two) , JJ might be able to surprise me.
[QUOTE=Tudd;48987230]Into Darkness was a shit tier action film in regard to plot or character motivations and is a waste of time when you can just watch Wrath of Khan for the same movie but better.
So basically you have looks and that is it.[/QUOTE]
oh yeah very much so, i was more talking about why he fits as a director than a writer
JJ Abrams has also talked about how he's more familiar with Star Wars than he is with Star Trek, so there's that.
[QUOTE=Cone;48987279]oh yeah very much so, i was more talking about why he fits as a director than a writer[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah no doubt he can direct his films in a way that will appeal to me for Star Wars.
But he sadly has never directed anything I could say that would befit a classic Star Wars for plot and I think this will be the biggest chance of failure for Episode 7. The guy simply is basic on story and has surrounded himself with horrible writers in the past.
My expectations is nothing offensive/disappointing like the prequels, but mediocrity of someone giving us good looking stuff with little substance.
in 2002 I got arrested for threatening to firebomb George Lucas' house on message boards.
That's the effect these movies will have on you
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I thought I got a bootleg copy of the new Star Wars movie but it was just 2 hours of George Lucas eating mayonnaise out of the jar.
[QUOTE=Glitchman;48988548]in 2002 I got arrested for threatening to firebomb George Lucas' house on message boards.
That's the effect these movies will have on you
[editline]26th October 2015[/editline]
I thought I got a bootleg copy of the new Star Wars movie but it was just 2 hours of George Lucas eating mayonnaise out of the jar.[/QUOTE]
Uh could you elaborate on the first and last sentence fully?
I don't understand why people hate on the Star Trek movies. I liked them, and my dad who is a long time Star Trek fan liked them.
[QUOTE=maddogsamurai;48986936]That's what concerns me. Abrams made 2 bad Star Trek films, the last one being so up it's ass with pandering to the old films by referencing The Wrath of Khan throughout that it was a mess. It's gonna be hard to take him seriously for Star Wars after those two disasters.[/QUOTE]
Disasters? Am I the only one who liked the new two star treks?
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;48993053]Disasters? Am I the only one who liked the new two star treks?[/QUOTE]
I loved them. But considering I have never been a fan of the older movies and series, and I have yet to actually watch them, the new movies probably appeal more to me.
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;48979570]As I child I enjoyed the Prequel Trilogy, but as I grew older and got exposed to the Original and then recapped onto the Prequel, you start seeing the things that it went wrong.[/QUOTE]
Same here man.
Though I was exposed to the OT before I saw the PT, and I still liked it.
Not so much anymore. I will watch them once and a while, but not as often as the OT.
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[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;48993053]Disasters? Am I the only one who liked the new two star treks?[/QUOTE]
I only liked the first one.
[editline]27th October 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=maddogsamurai;48986936]That's what concerns me. Abrams made 2 bad Star Trek films, the last one being so up it's ass with pandering to the old films by referencing The Wrath of Khan throughout that it was a mess. It's gonna be hard to take him seriously for Star Wars after those two disasters.[/QUOTE]
The difference here, is JJ Abrams is actually a fan of Star Wars, a giant fan.
He was not a big Star Trek fan, he only liked it in passing.
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Also, the writer of Empire Strikes Back is helping write this one.
[QUOTE=Tuskin;48995694]
[editline]27th October 2015[/editline]
Also, the writer of Empire Strikes Back is helping write this one.[/QUOTE]
Leigh Brackett?
She's been dead since 78
Or do you mean Lawrence Kasdan
[QUOTE=RockmanYoshi;48996984]Leigh Brackett?
She's been dead since 78
Or do you mean Lawrence Kasdan[/QUOTE]
No he definitely meant Leigh, Disney resurrected her just for this
Yah if only the jews were gone they bring back Walt Disney too from Cyro.
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