Should we allow the weird porn threads (IE: "What turns you on" type threads with furry/vore/beastia
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[QUOTE=Muntu;46257239]there's a cubeman story too? what did i miss?[/QUOTE]
Good luck finding it in 106 pages but it went something like this:
In the future, Cubeman becomes president and puts a mustang in every garage, a dragstrip by every driveway and google glass on every face.
Then some terrorists find that Cubeman used to post on a forum full of pedophiles and dogfuckers years ago. Using this, they run a smear campaign which ends in his impeachment.
America becomes part of the Islamic State and everything gets worse. Vote no or this will happen.
Okay here we go found it:
[QUOTE=RichyZ;46243890]The year is 2055. Cubemanv2 has won the United States presidential election (which was moved to 2055 for reasons I cannot tell you)
All is fine, everyone is wearing Google Glass, driving automatic Dodge Challenger SRTs, a dragstrip on every street.
However, trouble is afoot.
An Islamist from the infamous ISIS from years back seeks revenge for Cubeman's assault on his brothers back in 2013. After some internet research, he found Cubeman frequented a forum notorious for pedophiles and zoophiles. He uses this information to impeach Cubeman, shortly before killing him and taking his throne.
Fast forward to 2056. America is in ruins due to the hardcore ISIS ruling of the American military state. Millions are killed globally by the inflated now ISIS American military.
This could be averted, if you only voted no, its simple, easy, and convenient to press that button![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RichyZ;46257276]ok but the forums are 13+[/QUOTE]
They shouldn't be, FP hasn't made one game that would be under that age group by rating, Yes, I know a lot of kids play the games, but, it would be rated M. meaning the forums should be too.
[QUOTE=Wootman;46257270]Or just not have it bam bam bam problem solved.[/QUOTE]
You could easily turn this around and say just keep it and everyone who doesn't like it can shut up
garry isnt going to get rid of all the porn threads. they dont cause the same unavoidable problems that the wtyo threads cause. because of this:
[QUOTE=Craptasket;46243448]-It's a thread that's just become a one-upmanship of people trying to post the most disgusting shit they can find on the net. We don't want a thread on the forum filled with underaged anime bestiality, people can go to other fucked up sites for that. [/QUOTE]
none of the other porn threads have this problem which is why they arent on trial and probably won't be banned. it's an unavoidable and undeniable unique problem to this one thread and it's not even gimmick accounts posting this stuff, they're genuine full-time posters which is even weirder!!
i dont have a problem with fetishes and all that other shit, maybe they should make their own threads if it's that important to them, but the wtyo thread is just a blank cheque thread that shouldnt be allowed to exist.
[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;46257287]They shouldn't be, FP hasn't made one game that would be under that age group by rating, Yes, I know a lot of kids play the games, but, it would be rated M. meaning the forums should be too.[/QUOTE]
That makes no sense, you can make a Steam account when you are 13 I believe and it is filled with M games. Steam also blocks pornographic contents so why can't here too?
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;46257289]You could easily turn this around and say just keep it and everyone who doesn't like it can shut up[/QUOTE]
Then we would have this topic again.
[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;46257272]So can other porn sites.
Stop going think of the children everyone, that augment is stupid as fuck. Hell, I don't care if you guys do get rid of the threads, just if you are going argue against, get a better argument. Hell, if Rust or Gmod was rated by the ESRB, they would be M, 17+, meaning children shouldn't be here, since this is the forums for Facepunch Studios.[/QUOTE]
Why can't any of you supporters fucking realise that the mod team has stated time after time that they want porn banned especially questionable/weird/fucked up porn that is commonly posted in WTYO?
They even voted against you lot yet you all try to state that WTYO has done no harm which has been yet again been shot down from multiple users with Cheeseman being the main person who gave evidence confirming this.
Gmod has no rating since it was never released to retail but regardless of what the ERSB may say or even PEGI, the forums shouldn't have this fucking filth in it.
I'm so tired of arguing with you lot, I thought you may get it by now but 106 pages in it's obvious you don't
[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;46257272]So can other porn sites.
Stop going think of the children everyone, that augment is stupid as fuck. Hell, I don't care if you guys do get rid of the threads, just if you are going argue against, get a better argument. Hell, if Rust or Gmod was rated by the ESRB, they would be M, 17+, meaning children shouldn't be here, since this is the forums for Facepunch Studios.[/QUOTE]
those aren't my opinions, and personally, I couldn't care less about the children, but it's a reason others will use, and therefore, I must acknowledge the argument, despite how inane it is.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;46257297]mods dont want to mod it and literally everyone hates it that isnt a frequenter of it[/QUOTE]
except all those people who don't care and don't go in there
Honestly most of the shit posted in there is disgusting and borderline illegal, so I hope it's deleted.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;46257293]the forums are more for general game discussion and news/general discussion
and dont fucking try to use this to argue that the forums could also be for fucked up porn[/QUOTE]
Not going to. But at that rate, ban regular porn, as you stated, 13+ forums. Makes no sense that you want to allow a 13 year old to see porn at all then.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;46257315]except all those people who don't care and don't go in there[/QUOTE]
You are dumb
[QUOTE=RichyZ;46257333]ok im not against that tho?
literally i can just go to any of the 3 most popular porn sites and find anything from the tamest traditional shit to fucked up wtyo tier smut, its not hard for them to do that, is it[/QUOTE]
Most people that voted no seem to be against that tho.
It seems the reason they have is I DONT LIKE IT, BAN IT! and not any other reason.
I tend not to post around here at all, but if I'm going to bother voting I might as well.
I think this is a really blanket and polarizing way of handling this, I imagine it would go much more smoothly if the poll was asking to ban obvious pedophilia or incredibly ridiculous things nobody would ever ask for ever (wow guys look at my scat vore fetish).
To be honest though, banning all "weird" porn threads on the basis that facepunch is a gaming forum, even though there are a huge number of obvious non-gaming threads, huge subforums dedicated to completely unrelated topics, and controversial or incredibly nsfw things are tagged and posted on occasion in places like videos or sensational headlines seems rather silly. Like, you're not getting rid of it because it doesn't belong, but more because you just don't like it. Frankly I don't think anybody has a leg to stand on when it comes to that by just looking around the website more. You hate furries and they don't belong here, they can find other sites. So I guess gay chat's gotta go too, right? There are other gay websites for them to go to! This isn't a controversial news site either, can't have any of that.
No, that's just stupid. Thinking about it though, if you're using the age gate or "I don't want this site to be known for having that stuff on it" as a reason then there are a loooooooooooooooot of things that would need to get purged to stick with that. If everyone wants that, then sure. But I feel like destroying parts of the site and it's culture because a true facepuncher obviously wouldn't like that and it's a stain on the precious community, if it's not actually a vast majority that feels like that, just isn't something worth doing.
...totally behind banning cropped porn in avatars by the way.
The reasons the WTYOTM thread is supported is because:
-It is a place where users can post their fetishes without being overly judged(Then again, considering that the weirder stuff got boxes from regulars of the thread...)
-It is a pretty chill place to discuss said fetishes in a more civilized way without having "o lol I lik that giant pussy" or shit like that, something someone can't normally do unless with their closest friends(Why doing this is considered anti-social is because of the argument "That shit is creepy" and "People normally wouldn't talk about that IRL, and is therefore antisocial")
-facepunch is apparently supposed be diverse and appeal to the needs of many (as long as it isn't illegal or vote)
Honestly, I don't mind if it's closed or left open, the thread is just a thread, and it'll eventually collect dust and die, whether it's in 8 days, or 1 month.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;46257355]you're dumb.[/QUOTE]
How? Reading a bunch of posts by people going no, it seems to be that way to me.
Facepunch is for talking about Garry's Mod and Rust.
And general game discussion. And general discussion. And quick questions, and news, and game news, and videos, and debating, and web development, and modelling, and MS paint, art, music, photography, photoshop contests, cars, drugs, airsoft, urbex, film and telvision, tech support, pc building, hardware, Minecraft, DOTA 2, fitness...
It seems like we're about fuckin' everything here, porn can fit in no problem if you ask me
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;46257389]Facepunch is for talking about Garry's Mod and Rust.
And general game discussion. And general discussion. And quick questions, and news, and game news, and videos, and debating, and web development, and modelling, and MS paint, music, photography, photoshop contests, cars, drugs, airsoft, urbex, film and telvision, tech support, pc building, hardware, Minecraft, DOTA 2, fitness...
It seems like we're about fuckin' everything here, porn can fit in no problem if you ask me[/QUOTE]
Those are pretty normal discussion topics tho. Having a porn subforum/thread on Gmod/Rust's official site reflects poorly.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;46257267]Is it not possible to get someone new to moderate [I]specifically[/I] that section[/QUOTE]
Didnt that thread show it can't moderate itself, I think a non regular viewer would be best
[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;46257343]Most people that voted no seem to be against that tho.
It seems the reason they have is I DONT LIKE IT, BAN IT! and not any other reason.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LondierX;46256928]
"facepunch has no place for porn and isn't a porn dump, nor should it ever be known for having porn threads.
Children have easy access to those uncensored and filthy threads.
That thread broke its own no image dump rules to stay alive, nor does it serve its purpose, only serving as a furry porn dump and circlejerk.
There's risk of bad publicity.
Mods shouldn't have to deal with policing weird porn threads if they don't want to, and therefore, weird porn threads should go away.
There are other sites, and we don't want that shit here.
There's no benefit or reason to keep that thread alive."[/QUOTE]
Ignoring those that were simply insulting the users of the WTYOTM thread, these are the main reason, and a majority of the reason.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;46257389]Facepunch is for talking about Garry's Mod and Rust.
And general game discussion. And general discussion. And quick questions, and news, and game news, and videos, and debating, and web development, and modelling, and MS paint, art, music, photography, photoshop contests, cars, drugs, airsoft, urbex, film and telvision, tech support, pc building, hardware, Minecraft, DOTA 2, fitness...
It seems like we're about fuckin' everything here, porn can fit in no problem if you ask me[/QUOTE]
I know this has been posted 1000 times now but
Masturbating isnt a hobby
[QUOTE=Radio Flyer;46257406]Didnt that thread show it can't moderate itself, I think a non regular viewer would be best[/QUOTE]
It can't because every other iteration of itself has been shut down for the same thing.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;46257389]Facepunch is for talking about Garry's Mod and Rust.
And general game discussion. And general discussion. And quick questions, and news, and game news, and videos, and debating, and web development, and modelling, and MS paint, art, music, photography, photoshop contests, cars, drugs, airsoft, urbex, film and telvision, tech support, pc building, hardware, Minecraft, DOTA 2, fitness...
It seems like we're about fuckin' everything here, porn can fit in no problem if you ask me[/QUOTE]
Why should it though? What does the ability for people to post their sick-nasty fox dick drawings (taken from other sites anyway) actually bring to the forum? We've banned other explicit material because that isn't what the forum is about or for, and people shouldn't have to put up with it appearing outside """"containment""" threads occasionally in the form of avatars or fucking terrible posting.
[QUOTE=Wootman;46257403]Those are pretty normal discussion topics tho. Having a porn subforum/thread on Gmod/Rust's official site reflects poorly.[/QUOTE]
Reflects poorly to whom? These porn threads have been around for months, shit, years probably. Back when I joined we had a section [I]specifically[/I] for furries.
Don't you think whatever precious reputation we have with...almost nobody would have been tarnished by now?
[QUOTE=Radio Flyer;46257406]Didnt that thread show it can't moderate itself, I think a non regular viewer would be best[/QUOTE]
It kinda did moderate itself(in its own way) due to their users frowning upon cubs, loli, and that one instance of bestiality posted by a gimmick. They made it clear what they didn't want posted on that thread.
If you guys want to keep it on Facepunch so much why don't you make your own forum like Cowabanga did with General disruption and then post your fucked up shit there? It's a win situation for you! It looks like facepunch, feels like facepunch, but it's not actually facepunch. It's a win for us because we don't have to deal with that shit anymore!
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;46257427]Reflects poorly to whom? These porn threads have been around for months, shit, years probably. Back when I joined we had a section [I]specifically[/I] for furries.
Don't you think whatever precious reputation we have with...almost nobody would have been tarnished by now?[/QUOTE]
Why not fix your "bad" reputation instead of just dealing with it?
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;46257389]Facepunch is for talking about Garry's Mod and Rust.
And general game discussion. And general discussion. And quick questions, and news, and game news, and videos, and debating, and web development, and modelling, and MS paint, art, music, photography, photoshop contests, cars, drugs, airsoft, urbex, film and telvision, tech support, pc building, hardware, Minecraft, DOTA 2, fitness...
It seems like we're about fuckin' everything here, porn can fit in no problem if you ask me[/QUOTE]
Problem is, there are banned topics on here which make no sense to me, like MLP, yeah, I don't like it, and I know most of that community is toxic, but I have seen brony threads on other sites that don't turn into a shitfest.
Facepunch doesn't have a hivemind, but when majority of people here don't like shit, even shit that doesn't effect them, they want it gone.
No, I am not saying we should just allow anyone to post porn everywhere, no, let just have them have their threads, it doesn't effect you unless you go into the threads. Its not an image board where you see content of the thread before you enter.
And to the people going this forum is 13+, so ban weird porn. Why stop there? Ban all porn then. Its 13+ and its sort of illegal to be giving porn to minors.
[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;46257441]If you guys want to keep it on Facepunch so much why don't you make your own forum like Cowabanga did with General disruption and then post your fucked up shit there? It's a win situation for you! It looks like facepunch, feels like facepunch, but it's not actually facepunch. It's a win for us because we don't have to deal with that shit anymore![/QUOTE]
You never had to deal with it in the first place if you simply avoided the WTYOTM thread though.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;46257427]Reflects poorly to whom? These porn threads have been around for months, shit, years probably. Back when I joined we had a section [I]specifically[/I] for furries.
Don't you think whatever precious reputation we have with...almost nobody would have been tarnished by now?[/QUOTE]
The furry section got nuked remember, cause no one wanted it. Just like how no one wants this shitty fetish thread.
It just looks bad, lets say for example I'm a new user needing help with some Rust bug, once I notice that weird ass thread I will probably be wondering why is this even allowed in the first place, it makes no sense.
[QUOTE=Radio Flyer;46257412]I know this has been posted 1000 times now but
Masturbating isnt a hobby[/QUOTE]
It doesn't have to be a hobby to be on an internet forum, or this internet forum
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